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The argument for not deporting these innocents is basic - after three generations they are Pakistanis.
Many are mistaken that these harbor "anti-Pakistan" sentiments - these have demonstrated that their home is Pakistan by freely choosing to stay and build their families, their lives and in doing so build Pakistan.
If I may, I should also challenege the notion that they "hate" Pakistan, they most certainly do not, and lets not pin the blame for that coward Khar Zaeed, on these innocents.
Also, with your permission, an observation about the mentality: If anything what these people despise is the Pakistani State's unwillingness to assert itself.
See, in the cultural melieu they interact in most often, standing up for yourself is deeply appreciated - The Pakistani state if it wishes to be appreciated, must assert itself forcefully, with vigour, with a righteous indignation, firm but fair to friends and brutally firm to enemies.
Please remember that these not "other", they are but us, of us. When Pakistanis express a revulsion or fear of the kinds of ethnic nationalists movements propagated in the name of Pakhtun, remember poor people had nothing to do with it, it is the work of the rich politicians who have visions of even greater wealth and privelage dancing in their heads.
We, everybody, everywhere, claims a pride in where we came from, who are our fathers and mothers were - but that does not mean we hate Pakistan, Pakistan that gave everything, from simple naan to opportunity and dignity.
There are bad apples among all peoples and bad apples must be seperated from the good, but we do not destroy all apples because some have gone bad. And after three generations these are Pakistanis, additionally 70% of them trace their ancestry to Nangarhar.
Afghan government of Khar Zaeed or NA is not all Afghans, and we should be careful to not punish people for falling victim to propaganda, it is not as if we were never guilty of that same thing.
Our war is to cleanse our nation of the TTP and any idea or expression of extremism, and we do this because TTP and the purveyors of extremist ideology forced the war upon us, let us not give them a propaganda tool and victory by expressing our fear that will have real consequences on the lives of real innocents.
And notice undiscussed is what will happen to the property of these poor innocents that some want expelled, politicians are making plans for that property, they will confiscate it and enrich themselves and then blame ordinary peoples "sentiment" for this cruel and unmuslim, unPakistani behaviour.
Many are mistaken that these harbor "anti-Pakistan" sentiments - these have demonstrated that their home is Pakistan by freely choosing to stay and build their families, their lives and in doing so build Pakistan.
If I may, I should also challenege the notion that they "hate" Pakistan, they most certainly do not, and lets not pin the blame for that coward Khar Zaeed, on these innocents.
Also, with your permission, an observation about the mentality: If anything what these people despise is the Pakistani State's unwillingness to assert itself.
See, in the cultural melieu they interact in most often, standing up for yourself is deeply appreciated - The Pakistani state if it wishes to be appreciated, must assert itself forcefully, with vigour, with a righteous indignation, firm but fair to friends and brutally firm to enemies.
Please remember that these not "other", they are but us, of us. When Pakistanis express a revulsion or fear of the kinds of ethnic nationalists movements propagated in the name of Pakhtun, remember poor people had nothing to do with it, it is the work of the rich politicians who have visions of even greater wealth and privelage dancing in their heads.
We, everybody, everywhere, claims a pride in where we came from, who are our fathers and mothers were - but that does not mean we hate Pakistan, Pakistan that gave everything, from simple naan to opportunity and dignity.
There are bad apples among all peoples and bad apples must be seperated from the good, but we do not destroy all apples because some have gone bad. And after three generations these are Pakistanis, additionally 70% of them trace their ancestry to Nangarhar.
Afghan government of Khar Zaeed or NA is not all Afghans, and we should be careful to not punish people for falling victim to propaganda, it is not as if we were never guilty of that same thing.
Our war is to cleanse our nation of the TTP and any idea or expression of extremism, and we do this because TTP and the purveyors of extremist ideology forced the war upon us, let us not give them a propaganda tool and victory by expressing our fear that will have real consequences on the lives of real innocents.
And notice undiscussed is what will happen to the property of these poor innocents that some want expelled, politicians are making plans for that property, they will confiscate it and enrich themselves and then blame ordinary peoples "sentiment" for this cruel and unmuslim, unPakistani behaviour.