pakistan stopped buying military equpment from USA totally

[Avicenna]

Not to take the thread off topic, but please read your own links. Iran was not allowing the access needed to verify compliance as it had agreed to do.

Are we all reading the same articles?

Where do you see that Iran isnt allowing access that it needs to?

If anything the articles corroborate that Iran was in satisficatory compliance.

Wow....

It was the US that unilaterally withdrew at the behest of the Israeli lobby mainly and folks like John Bolton.

https://www.motherjones.com/politic...ted-war-with-iran-since-before-you-were-born/

Segueing the thread back to the topic.

Yes, the US is an untrustworthy partner for Pakistan, but probably a neccesary evil to get access to things Pakistan otherwise wouldnt have access too. (although this may be changing slightly with the emergence of China)

i.e. the glorious AMRAAMS which took down the 2 IAF aircraft.

 

[VCheng]

Yes, the US is an untrustworthy partner for Pakistan, but probably a neccesary evil to get access to things Pakistan otherwise wouldnt have access too. (although this may be changing slightly with the emergence of China)

i.e. the glorious AMRAAMS which took down the 2 IAF aircraft.

As was said above, US sanctions on Pakistan may be a good thing in that it allows diversification and self-reliance.

(IAEA looks at only declared facilities. Please keep that in mind.)

 

[Arsalan 345]

I am sorry but ur understanding of geo politics and history is adoloscent so kindly dont indulge me in a conversation that will most definitely hurt my brain.

I think you quoted me first.check your previous comments.it's not me who started this discussion.views can differ.we are here to discuss and not to fight.regards.

 

[Zibago]

Just get the orders in the pipeline cleared and be done with US of A

Of course it is all good. And fair.

Just have a look around and see who is writing Afghanistan Endgame
It worked out for us their best ptm fizzled out before proper launch

As if Iran was abiding by its commitments under the nuclear deal. Yeah. Remember the two way street?

EU thinks it is

Wrong decision. Its open world, good relationship are required to move forward.

Imran Khan is stupid who try to detract Pakistani biliteral relationship with USA. And army establishment following it.


Its not a good point that Pakistan get goods from other countries. Country relationship are good vitamin for any country.

If goals are different defense relations can go down
We just need to find other sources without compromising on our national interests

 

[Mahmood-ur-Rehman]

Nothing left in America for us

 

[VCheng]

Just get the orders in the pipeline cleared and be done with US of A

That sounds like a reasonable strategy.

Just have a look around and see who is writing Afghanistan Endgame
It worked out for us their best ptm fizzled out before proper launch

That's great for Pakistan. To the better players in international geopolitics go the benefits.

EU thinks it is

And EU still follows the USA in this matter.

If goals are different defense relations can go down
We just need to find other sources without compromising on our national interests

That is true. Alignments of national interests can change over time in international geopolitics.

Nothing left in America for us

It is a two-way street.

 

[Imran Khan]

That sounds like a reasonable strategy.



That's great for Pakistan. To the better players in international geopolitics go the benefits.



And EU still follows the USA in this matter.



That is true. Alignments of national interests can change over time in international geopolitics.



It is a two-way street.

BTW one should not be spoon of USA this much that he can not see difference between right and wrong

 

[VCheng]

BTW one should not be spoon of USA this much that he can not see difference between right and wrong

BTW, there is no right or wrong in international geopolitics.

 

[jaybird]

BTW, there is no right or wrong in international geopolitics.

There is no right or wrong in international geopolitics between countries. But there is right and wrong between human beings and personal level.

 

[VCheng]

There is no right or wrong in international geopolitics between countries. But there is right and wrong between human beings and personal level.

Correct. Such concepts of morality belong only in the personal domain.

 

[Zibago]

That sounds like a reasonable strategy.



That's great for Pakistan. To the better players in international geopolitics go the benefits.



And EU still follows the USA in this matter.



That is true. Alignments of national interests can change over time in international geopolitics.



It is a two-way street.

Keep the relational purely economical in nature post Afghanistan
The less we rely on US for hardware the better
As for our previous purchases well we need not back down from them but we should however not let sudden availability of old assets due to sudden change in US regime interest be reason for new procurement

 

[Imran Khan]

BTW, there is no right or wrong in international geopolitics.

isko munafqat kehty hain

 

[AHMED85]

Just get the orders in the pipeline cleared and be done with US of A


Just have a look around and see who is writing Afghanistan Endgame
It worked out for us their best ptm fizzled out before proper launch


EU thinks it is


If goals are different defense relations can go down
We just need to find other sources without compromising on our national interests

Which goals your are thinking for.

Can you elaborate plz.

 

[Zibago]

Which goals your are thinking for.

Can you elaborate plz.

Custom made solution for Afghanistan
Cleansing of entire country from problematic elements
A scorched earth policy for IoK

 

[VCheng]

isko munafqat kehty hain

No. Isko khara sach kehtay hein.

Keep the relational purely economical in nature post Afghanistan
The less we rely on US for hardware the better
As for our previous purchases well we need not back down from them but we should however not let sudden availability of old assets due to sudden change in US regime interest be reason for new procurement

Of course Pakistan should do whatever it takes to serve its own national interests, including your suggestions.