Abu Zolfiqar
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The problem right now is, that Pakistan cannot be secular in its law or statecraft because that time passed in 56 with the first constitution. Perhaps secularism is not for us at all and I am of that view. However, neither were the principles of Islamic state implemented since we have tainted religious ideologies running amok(as is VERY visible in this forum). There is no point in going into history and blaming others because they have very cleverly extracted themselves from the situations and removed themselves from any equation that would lead to them if the common denominator is searched for.
At this point, we have to accept that Mohammad Ali Jinnah's idea of Pakistan is dead, bones rusted and gone. What must be looked into is make doing with what we have and how to best improve upon this with a large chuck of our population directly or indirectly in support of murderers and thieves.(Be it glorifying militants or suppressing the rights of others).
You are talking about a nation where people refuse to take accountability for their actions and instead put all blame on god.
well, times have changed.....if you look at the broad spectrum --- countries like Egypt or Pakistan -- 1950s was worlds away from the countries we see today.
whatever is the will of the masses is what should implemented. Now obviously Pakistan was founded as a country primarily for Muslims (and non-Muslims of course who would be welcome and free to practice). A lot will agree you cant seperate Islam and Pakistan.
But for those who belong to the Shariah camp - do we have a consensus on what is Shariah and Shariah law? I dont think we do.
I dont want the name of my religion to be tarnished by intolerant people who think it's necessary to have blasphemy laws and to label certain groups as certified Muslims and certain sect as non Muslim. We dont need that kind of stuff.
I'd vote for a Pluralistic Democratic Pakistan - Neither Secular nor Islamist, where someone as exceptional as Justice Rana Bhagwandas could become the President of Pakistan but at the same time our State Bank would be allowed, as per the mandate it was given by our Quaid, to evolve a system of economics that is inline with the principals of Islam !
I believe in Pluralism, Democracy & Islamic Paradigms (should we wish it) - the crux of every single one of the Quaid's & Iqbal's speeches since they became associated with the Pakistan Movement including his 11th August Speech & the Allama's the Reconstruction of Religious Thought in Islam.
I do believe that both the advocates of an Islamic State & those of a Secular State assume beyond what the contents of any of what the Quaid & Iqbal said mandated & most of the time, many, define Secularism in a manner that Holly Oakes would probably find woefully inadequate & likewise Islamism in a way that even the Koran wouldn't be able to agree with !
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Beautiful post.....great points my man
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