Pakistan shells hit inside Afghanistan

[BHarwana]

The timeline i was referring to you was when Afghanistan was a whole country. There was no taliban or Nother alliance back than. In fact Afghanistan was the only country who did not recognised Pakistan. You might want to rethink on the highlighted part.

yes I have rethought it. countries are not enemies. ideologies are enemies. Do you know why jamaat ul Ahrar are enemies?

 

[IceCold]

yes I have rethought it. countries are not enemies. ideologies are enemies. Do you know why jamaat ul Ahrar are enemies?

I would like to state the above as there are no permanent friends or foes in the international arena. Today's friends can very well be tomorrow's enemies. As for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar they are for the same reason TTP is. It should not make a difference why they are enemies but rather how to crush them and their financiers. Do keep in mind we are talking about factions here and not countries.

 

[BHarwana]

I would like to state the above as there are no permanent friends or foes in the international arena. Today's friends can very well be tomorrow's enemies. As for Jamaat-ul-Ahrar they are for the same reason TTP is. It should not make a difference why they are enemies but rather how to crush them and their financiers. Do keep in mind we are talking about factions here and not countries.

In the name of Jamaat ul Ahrar, the word Ahrar has a special role to play. the previous name of this organization was Ahrar ul Hind and this organization is an off shoot of Majlis-e-Ahrar-ul-Islam existed before 1947 and it's purpose was to wage a war against Quaid-e-azam and stop the creation of Pakistan.

 

[IceCold]

In the name of Jamaat ul Ahrar, the word Ahrar has a special role to play. the previous name of this organization was Ahrar ul Hind and this organization is an off shoot of Majlis-e-Ahrar-ul-Islam existed before 1947 and it's purpose was to wage a war against Quaid-e-azam and stop the creation of Pakistan.

So they failed in their objective of stopping Quaid-e-Azam, what is the agenda now? Never the less my opinion about crushing them still stands. As for India well to give them a response they deserve we first need to get rid of Indian apologists which sadly are in the place of power starting from your beloved PM.

 

[BHarwana]

So they failed in their objective of stopping Quaid-e-Azam, what is the agenda now? Never the less my opinion about crushing them still stands. As for India well to give them a response they deserve we first need to get rid of Indian apologists which sadly are in the place of power starting from your beloved PM.

They are enemies of our existence we need to pull them out of their beds and put them in graves for ever and we have to push and support more and more Kashmir freedom fight with trump in white house we have to make Americans leave Afghanistan. finish northern alliance and JUA.

 

[Super Falcon]

Ababeel should be unleashed their time to show no mercy and good message for Indians will be sent

 

[haman10]

Does Pakistan co-operate with you on Jaish-ul-Adl or not. ?

or not

Does Pakistan Provided you riggi on silver plate or not ?

or not.

our intel service did... in the middle of the sky.

Does Pakistan ever ignored your request of taking action against Jaish ul Adl or not ?

WUT? the main cause of our arrest in ties is because of this exact point.

Meanwhile Afghanistan admits they dont have government writ or control over Nanghar and Kunar. Terrorists are releasing videos of themselves training attackers and suicide bombers in Nanghar and Kunar and sending them to Pakistan. Hence Pakistan shelling there. And Afghanistan refuses to cooperate with Pakistan on catching terrorists.


If you dont have knowledge, facts and figures about Pakistan afghanistan dynamic. Dont compare it with Pakistan Iran dynamic. It is like ocmparing apple and oranges. If both are of same size doesnt meant they are one and same thing

Again, i didn't question this incident and its legality.

Pakistan has every right to take action in order to bring stability to her borders. just as Iran does.

 

[Imran Khan]

do something man i am tired of claims now

 

[Asian.Century]

Looking at the history of the Indian spy agency and its successes claimed by retired Indian intelligence officer RK Yadav in his 2014 book "Mission R&AW". Although the book cites some of RAW's actions in China (Tibet), Sikkim (annexation) and Sri Lanka (creation and support of LTTE), most of it is devoted to Indian agents' accomplishments in destabilizing and disintegrating Pakistan.
Yadav's Book:
Here are some of the key Pakistan-related excerpts from Yadav's book:
On Pakhtunistan Page 21:
" Wali Khan (son of Abdul Ghaffar Khan aka Bacha Khan) wanted moral, political and other support from Mrs. Indira Gandhi. R.N. Kao sent hs deputy Sankaran Nair to negotiate as the Indian representative. Since Pakistan embassy was keeping watch on the movements of Wali Khan, the rendezvous was shifted to Sweden where Nair and another R&AW man of Indian mission I.S. Hassanwalia met Wali Khan. Subsequently all sorts of support was given to Wali Khan by the Indian Government till 1977 when Indira Gandhi lost election". On Agartala Conspiracy Page 197:
"In view of the disclosures of S.K. Nair, it is evidently true that Mujib was implicated in the Agartala Conspiracy case at the instance of Pakistan Government. However, it is also true that other accused in this case were certainly agents of Intelligence Bureau (IB) in India"
On Fokker Hijacking in Srinagar Page 227:There was an agent of R&AW-Hashim Qureshi in Srinagar.......R&AW persuaded Hashim Qureshi to work for them.....After the plan was given final shape, on January 30, 1971, Hashim Qureshi along with another operative Ashraf Qureshi, his relative, was allowed to hijack a Fokker Friendship plane Ganga of Indian Airlines with 26 passengers on board, to take the plane to Lahore airport. R&AW allowed him to carry a grenade and a toy pistol inside the plane. Pakisani authorities at Lahore airport allowed the plane to land when they were informed that it had been hijacked by National Liberation Front activist militants of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. All India Radio soon made broadcast of this hijacking and the whole world was informed that the Pakistan Government was behind this hijacking...The incident overtly gave India the right opportunity which was planned by R.N. Kao, to cancel the flights of Pakistan over its territory which hampered the plans of Yahya Khan to send its troops by air to curb the political movement of Mujib in East Pakistan. On Mukti Bahini Page 231:
Since the Indian Army was not prepared and well-equipped for an immediate army action at that point (March 1971), it was planned to raise and train a guerrilla outfit of the Bengali refugees of East Pakistan by R&AW which would harass the Pakistan Army till the Indian Army would be ready for the final assault to the liberation of East Pakistan. She (Indira Gandhi) then asked R.N. Kao, Chief of R&AW, to prepare all possible grounds for the army for its final assault when the clearance from General Maneckshaw was received for its readiness for the war.
On 3 RAW created Forces (Mujeeb Bahini, Special Frontier Force (SFF) and Kader Bahini Page 242:
"..He (Kader Siddiqui aka Tiger Siddiqui) was the main operative of R&AW in the most vital areas of strategic operation around Dacca... Kader Bahini played havoc with the communication system of the army (Pakistani), ambushed enemy columns, blew up supply and ammunition dumps and assaulted a number of enemy convoys.....all these three guerrilla outfits created by R&AW with the help of BSF and the (Indian) army proved a vital force .. "
Obviously, the author is silent on India's current activities against Pakistan, particularly its covert war being waged from Afghanistan through its agents who have infiltrated Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Balochistan Liberation Army (BLA).
Ajit Doval Speech:
For clues as to what Indian spooks are up to now, let's watch the video of a 2013 speech by Ajit Doval delivered before he was appointed by Indian Prime Minister Modi as his National Security Advisor (NSA). Here are a few snippets from Doval's lecture at Sastra University in Tamil Nadu:
"How do we tackle Pakistan? .. You make it difficult for them (Pakistan) to manage their internal security... Pakistan's vulnerability is many many times higher than India's....Taliban have beheaded 23 of their (Pakistani) soldiers...funding can be countered by giving more funds...more than one-and-a-half times the funding they have available and they'll be yours..the Taliban are mercenaries...go for more of a covert thing"



Pakistan's Narrative:
Is India responsible for all that is wrong with Pakistan today? Obviously not; however, its spies are promoting and exploiting the ethnic, regional, religious and sectarian fault lines that exist in Pakistan. RAW is instigating and thriving on the chaos gripping the Islamic Republic.
Pakistan's response to its problems of growing violence has to be comprehensive; it needs to deal with both internal and external causes.
It has to develop and promote a powerful counter narrative to appeal to misguided young men who are drawn to the militants making references to the Quran and the Hadith as part of their call to violence. The counter narrative has to explain the basics; it has to be based on the Quranic verses proclaiming Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) as Rehmat ul lil Alameen (Blessing to the worlds); it has to explain Misaq e Madina, the constitution of the first real Islamic State established by Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) in Madina.
"This is a document from Muhammad the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), governing relations between the Believers i.e. Muslims of Quraysh and Yathrib and those who followed them and worked hard with them. They form one nation -- Ummah."
It clearly says that all citizens of "Yathrib" (ancient name of Madina), regardless of their tribe or religion, are part of one nation--"Ummah". So the word "Ummah" here does not exclude non-Muslims.
Further into the "Misaq" document, it says: "No Jew will be wronged for being a Jew. The enemies of the Jews who follow us will not be helped. If anyone attacks anyone who is a party to this Pact the other must come to his help."
The Misaq assures equal protection to all citizens of Madina, including non-Muslim tribes which agreed to it. The contents of Misaq-e-Madina, Islam's first constitution approved by Prophet Mohammad 1400 years ago, appear to have inspired Quaid-e-Azam Mohammad Ali Jinnah vision of Pakistan where people of all religions and nationalities live in harmony with equal rights and protections under the law.
Counter-Intelligence Ops, Afghanistan:
Internal efforts alone will not succeed; Pakistan also has to mount a serious counter-intelligence challenge to blunt RAW's efforts to destabilize and disintegrate Pakistan. Pakistan has to try and stabilize Afghanistan to deny India what former US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel described as "India's second front against Pakistan".
Advice to India:
The best and most sane advice that can be offered India now is to think of the consequences of its actions in destabilizing its neighbor; particularly the fact that it s a large nuclear-armed country with a population approaching 200 million. India may find some short-term satisfaction by inflicting huge damage to its neighbor. But what if it leads to Pakistan becoming a REALLY failed state triggering a massive refugee problem along India's long border? What if the India-funded groups like TTP and BLA actually succeed in defeating the Pakistani military? What would that do to India? What if it triggers an unintended devastating nuclear war? I hope saner minds will prevail in New Delhi to prevent a major human catastrophe in South Asia.

We have seen here for ages Indians accusing Pakistan of spreading terror in their country but here is something their own ex Raw official has to say. Lets see how many of them have balls to admit to their national hypocrisy and terror support in and out of their own country.