Muhammad Saftain Anjum
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Don't you think Hq 9 p is enough now.PAF still needs any long range defence system???they are looking to compliment this.
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Don't you think Hq 9 p is enough now.PAF still needs any long range defence system???they are looking to compliment this.
Farmers will flee or be evacuated regardless.. both from Lahore and its surrounding areas.
There is a massive Indian armored thrust heading to Lahore and one heading to cut the Okara to Jhang axis which captured 3 vital supply links.. what can Lahore supply from Mall road to its food production to “vital economics” that will justify saving it versus sacrificing critical communication and supply lines to 5 major urban areas along with countless military facilities?
PAF needs them for separate roles and reasons than PA.Don't you think Hq 9 p is enough now.PAF still needs any long range defence system???
Your little insecurities and genocidal tendencies wouldn't do that much good to you! . It's useless to argue with your insanity. Around 1/5th of the Pakistan's population lives in 2 big cities and you are willing to sacrifice them for what? It's not 1940s or 60s anymore.
For rest of the members:
A country like Pakistan who has to threaten to attack another small country thousands of kilometers away just for its own survival, while having highly questionable power projection attributes of those sorts defines the posture it has to continuously maintain to survive.
Pakistan since its inception has been severely at the disadvantage in terms of the size of its military, land mass and available manpower against its much larger next door rival, India. To counter that disadvantage we have survived this long by just sheer aggression, firepower and preemptive strikes into enemy's territories. Countless Great Men have sacrificed their lives to attack indian military infrastructure within hostile territory to blunt their attack and fought valiantly to defend their homeland and people.
Present Situation:
For past few decades Pakistan has been in major geographical and demographical dilemma. Most of our major population centers, major cities, vital civilian and military infrastructure is very close to the eastern border and under ever increasing danger of being wiped out due to proliferation of advanced missiles, land and air launched stand off precision guided weapons in the region for the past few decades.
The balance of military size, population and landmass depth would already be massively in India's favor and there isn't much left for us to afford to loose nor we would have the space to make any mistake in any calculations or commit blunders. Militaries around the globe are kept and paid to defend and fight.
If we wish to ever win against that huge enemy then we would have to take out 10 of their civilians for each of our civilian casualty and 7 of their soldiers against each of our soldier get martyred to shift that huge imbalance to somewhat in our favor. Similar conditions applies to equipment and infrastructure losses. That's why aggression is a compulsion to survive. That's why we had to do nuclear tests in response and recently destroy their trees in response to the loss of our trees . And developed full spectrum nuclear deterrence including tactical Nuclear missiles. We don't have any effective reserves or vast landmass to maneuver and keep retreating to. All of our force is committed at or very near the front lines.
Pakistan has many fault lines and vulnerabilities due to the aforementioned reasons. And if India ever manages to inflict damage at massive scale or incursions slightly deep into our territory then there would be no point of return for Pakistan. The balance of power would shift further more towards India. If India manages to do China cuttings within Pakistan's territory then a domino effect would ensue further and it won't stop anytime soon. They wouldn't have to attack your beloved concrete of Port or its adjacent factory or a road leading to it. It would be game over by then. Conventional militaries aren't that much efficient in fighting like resistance guerilla war style and guerilla warfare is an insult and disgrace by itself. Massive losses in men, equipment and/or land witout being able to inflict damage at least half a dozen times more in return then its already game over. Wars dont tend to last long in this part of the continent.
And after all this if you somehow mange to survive and gain control of couple of towns in Rajhistan desert. It won't be that much of intrinsic value to trade them with far more better territories of Punjab in post war negotiations.
And that concludes my last post in response. Hope sanity prevails.
In 5-10 years, such systems will use AI technology.
Don't you think Hq 9 p is enough now.PAF still needs any long range defence system???
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Variant | Modifications |
HQ-9A | Improved electronic equipment and software provide the 9A with higher accuracy and probability of kill |
HQ-9B | Longer 300 km range; an additional seeker provides semi-active radar homing and infrared homing modes |
HQ-9C | Currently in development; incorporates fully active radar homing |
HHQ-9 | Naval variant identical to HQ-9; launched from VLS tubes in Lanzhou class destroyers |
HHQ-9A | Naval variant identical to HQ-9A |
FD-2000 | Identical to the original HQ-9, but designed for export with minor electronic improvements |
FT-2000 | Anti-radiation system; a range of up to 100 km |
Like someone else previously said, just adding to the spiceIt’s funny how insignificant this debate of cities is considering they’re going to be covering everything equally…but y’know…have at it.
Variant Modifications HQ-9A Improved electronic equipment and software provide the 9A with higher accuracy and probability of kill HQ-9B Longer 300 km range; an additional seeker provides semi-active radar homing and infrared homing modes HQ-9C Currently in development; incorporates fully active radar homing HHQ-9 Naval variant identical to HQ-9; launched from VLS tubes in Lanzhou class destroyers HHQ-9A Naval variant identical to HQ-9A FD-2000 Identical to the original HQ-9, but designed for export with minor electronic improvements FT-2000 Anti-radiation system; a range of up to 100 km
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It must be an export version, not something from Chinese scrapyard.Did Pakistan get HQ9A? There should be ToT and mass production of a capable SAM and a couple of BVR missiles.