Who said that Prithvi loses all its fuel while reaching Apogee ?
I am certain that neither the Prithvi nor the Iskander is powered thought its flight but I don't understand how you concluded the Prithvi losses all its fuel just at apogee and doesn't have any left for cruise glide simply because it has stabilizing wings.
BTW even Bigger wings go Hypersonic.
Whats wrong with Prithvi ?
I'm saying that. As a matter of fact most ballistic missiles terminate boost phase much before reaching apogee.
Iskander is powered throughout the flight except for the terminal stage where it dives down and the EO seeker (in a variant) identifies the target.
The stabilizing wings in Prithvi are meant to provide lift in the terminal stage, so that maneuvering is possible and more lateral distance is covered.
The HTV-2's outer body is designed to sustain the high temperatures of hypersonic flight. Since the nose tip doesn't takes most of the heat as happens in most ballistic missiles, the whole body including wings must have heat shielding. Something which Prithvi doesn't have, and besides it has FOUR delta wings, which are designed for generating lift in atmosphere, not sustaining hypersonic velocities. It would be a disaster to make it travel at Mach 5.
Stop making baseless and ridiculous claims.
Prithvi has an old engine which has its limitations... It cannot maneuver as much as a Shaurya or Iskander... even the weight to fuel ratio is worse... the main aim behind shaurya was to make it canisterised and allow storage for very long period of time the 2nd stage Prithvi motor is Liquid which burns the longest and has to be fueled more frequently.... say 15-30 days or so... there was a news back in 2006 that they have tested a liquid fuel successfully which could be stored as long as 6 months but that still was unfavorable as a SSBN would normally have had to fuel its missile once in two sorties make it an extremely complex and lengthy task delaying deployment.
Oh...so ummm why not just replace the liquid fuel motor with a solid fuel one and maintain the supreme hypersonic quasi-ballistic-with-four-delta-wings design?
Good for you till the next time some one comes out and reveals more truth about the rest of the tests.
Not accepting, eh? Dude, if there were more failures, why not disclose them all by saying it failed all tests?
The guy pointed out the exact tests, thats it. MOVE ON!
Most of the things I say here is backed by authentic source and information available on Internet for all.
You mean BR, right?
Here in Pakistan we have the ISI-syndrome, most people who know the technical (but not harmful) details abstain from sharing it.
There's a limitation to technology... If I'd say I can improve an Agni II then It can be done only upto certain extent... I make the 2nd stage of missile composite body the motor design same but using composite casings... the REV with special metal coating which melts while in RE and creates a vaccum around it reducing drag and substantially increasing the range of the missile to almost double but can I make it an Agni III.
Ummm why would anybody want an Agni-III motor for a Agni-II payload? Get over it, the solid fuel motors are meeting current requirements...when the need arises, more efficient ones will be developed.
As a matter of fact they already are being developed, as in Shaheen-IA.
And by the way that chromium coating does not creates vaccum, it creates a less dense medium so that the air does not come directly in contact with the ReV.
GPS is vulnerable to Jamming... I Hope you know that... Ballistic missiles depending on GPS can be far more unsuccessful that a Cruise missile using GPS... other threats and parameters considered.
I know, but the methods are quite difficult, not easily achievable by India.
No modern missile system depends entirely on one guidance system. IMU (INS), Satellite Navigation, Stellar Guidance (for > IRBMs) , DSMAC/TERCOM (in case of cruise missiles) all work in coherence.
M-18 design was sold to Pakistan... Its components transferred... Shaheen II is the proof of its existence... not saying they are the same missile although.
I see
Which would do you live in ?
Pakistan was throwing its hands right during the 70s after the 71 war and when India tested its 1st bomb... there were threats to bomb Pakistani facilities from IAF and PAF threatened the same to India aswell... its not 5-10 years... I did not expect that from you.
The SFC of Pakistan or I should rather say PA have not been able to move beyond west India.... and thats the truth... Shaheen II(15-20) are little in numbers are to be used only for specific targets towards south... I should say Shaheen II needs more tests to validate as an trustworthy missile for Long ranges.
People like you claimed the same stuff just a few years before from those developments, but they were surprised. Of course now it seems all "we-expected-it" stuff.
First, nobody on the internet know the number of Shaheen-II missiles. Although you could ask your BR guys how many 6-axle TELs they have seen on GE.
Second, Shaheen-II had probably the best record of test flights, thats why after 4 years and 6 flights, it was made operational.
Was it me who was boosting about all Ghauri missiles being Pakistani.
Was it me who was boosting all Gaharui missiles tests including the last test to be a success.
Was it me who says that all the missiles are indigenous to Pakistan and no foreign help was involved whatsoever.
Was it me who has been saying that all Pakistani missiles have been pin-point success.
Was it me who was saying the we can target Indian withing 8 minutes with a Nuclear strike when the primary strike missile Ghauri would have about 30 minutes just to fuel up ?
Was it me talking about nuclear strikes when the missile Ghauri was deemed a failure even by scientists associated in testing it and the military staff who thought of scrapping it or sending it back to Korea.
Is it me who is still claiming that Ghauri had rest of the 7 tests successful in spite the fact the military wanted it scrapped or send back from where they imported it.
Bhai meray Pakistan has 6 other ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons besides Ghauri.
Thodi unhain bhi suna dijiye.
The 8 minutes claim is for after the launch has occurred. The launch preparations last for hours, even for solid-fueled missiles.
Reliability doubts are one thing, they don't change facts.
Look around you who is bragging... or I should say look to yourself.
I never claimed anything outside the frame where I could not prove that to you with authentic internet sources.... you claim that Pakistan has more AWACS than India but completely ignore that you are importing them from outside while we have two AWACS projects running simultaneously with 3 PTs already being tested.
Ah, the "authentic" Internet sources...anyways if its all about the internet sources, then I'm out of this discussion.
There are many things which are being worked upon in Indian towards the Nuclear field... we are building a 1st worlds arsenal with thermonuclear bombs and almost pinpoint accurate missiles... had we tried dirty fission bombs we would be competing China in numbers but can it make us similar in the yield and power.
Have I refuted these claims?
I gave you the source where the scientist from your missile/nuclear program has been saying that... and you are blaming me for quoting/writing what he said.
How did you conclude that Prithvi is not Hypersonic at terminal stage ?
