Pakistan needs more nukes?

[Thorough Pro]

Mere possession of a weapon (any kind) is never a deterence. War is always a trade off, Losses are always inherent, understood and accepted. What actually deters is the fear of losing more than the worth of achieving objectives. By having more nukes Pakistan is uping its deterence level a step furthe.

Hello everyone,

Just a general question: Why Pakistan develops more nuclear weapons?

According to most estimates it already possess more than 50 nuclear bombs which are more than enough to deter India from any military campaign. The proofs are India's restraint in the Kargil Crisis, in the 2002 tension after the terror attack against the Indian parliament house in New Delhi, after 26/11 terror attack in Mumbai, and in the crisis of 1990.

Developing more nuclear weapons requires building an expensive plutonium programme: nuclear powers, nuclear fuel fabrication facilities and of course plutonium processing facility. Furthermore, it requires developing long-range missiles in equivalence to a satellite/space programme and tactical nuclear weapons for use against India's conventional forces. Pakistan has no extra money to spend around and all these nuclear capabilities cost a lot of money. Some of the nuclear infrastructure could be used for producing electricity but clearly most of the nuclear programme is design to developing nuclear weapons.

Any ideas will be welcomed.

 

[PakiRambo]

Further nuke development is always good, but a blind eye shouldn't be turned towards economy, education and health care. All are equally important.

If Pakistan can maintain and improve it's economy further, and even put pressure on foreign nations who rely on Pakistan for resources, that could serve as a high level of deterrence rather than solely relying on Nukes. No country who benefits off of Pakistan's resources and trade would be willing to give it up.

 

[Darth Vader]

First use against nuclear weapons countries - this is unofficially of course, no official nuclear doctrine was published.



Why? You can cover most of India with a range of 2,000km.

SIMPLE ANSWER NO 1 CARES HOW BIG OR SMALL UR ENEMY IS THEIR IS 1=1

LET ME EXMPLN HOW 1=1

QUESTION = ANS

SAME GOES IF SOME 1 WANA MESS WITH US HOW CARES WHICH COUNTRY IS THAT INDIA AUS , USA , RUSSIA , LIKE ANY COUNTRY IN WAR WE CANT SAY ITS NOT FAIR SO ATLEAST WE SHOULD BE READY FOR WORSE ITHNK U GOT IT

IF U WANT MORE EXMPLN INDIA AND PAKISTAN ARE BOTH NUCLEAR STATES THEY HAVE TO SHOW OFF ,,,, NOW ISRAEL IS A NUCLEAR STATE THEY GOT STEALTH FIGHTERS , NAVY , BOMBS MISSILE NOW IF ALL OTHER COUNTRIES ARE UR ALLY THEN WHY U NEED THIS STUFF FOR PALESTINE ,THATS REALLY STRNGE CZ THEY DONT EVEN HAVE 1 AIRCRAFT LOL

 

[pakfoj]

I personally dont think so. First of all Nuclear weapons are almost never a choice, its usually conventional weapons. Nuclear weapons of Pakistan are there to scare of any invader and make a powerful image for Pakistan. That's all.However I do believe that the missiles that carry such weapons should be improved: more advanced, more stealthy and more accurate. And there is no need to make more weapons, 200 are more than enough. By the way does anybody know if the Nuclear weapons of Pakistan are fission or fusion? if they are fusion, than having just 50 is way more than enough..

 

[OrionHunter]

Hello everyone,

Why Pakistan develops more nuclear weapons?
Developing more nuclear weapons requires building an expensive plutonium programme: nuclear powers, nuclear fuel fabrication facilities and of course plutonium processing facility. Pakistan has no extra money to spend around and all these nuclear capabilities cost a lot of money.

Well, we all are still in a lowly stage of human development where we cannot think beyond war.

It will take humanity a paradigm shift of consciousness to graduate to the higher level of consciousness where war and arrogance and suspicion will be passé, when humans will start thinking of humanism instead, perusing the goal of happiness, freedom, and progress in economic, cultural, and ethical aspects of all humankind, irrespective of nation, race, or religion.

It's not about Pakistan. Its about humanity as a whole.

 

[PakiRambo]

Well, we all are still in a lowly stage of human development where we cannot think beyond war.

It will take humanity a paradigm shift of consciousness to graduate to the higher level of consciousness where war and arrogance and suspicion will be passé, when humans will start thinking of humanism instead, perusing the goal of happiness, freedom, and progress in economic, cultural, and ethical aspects of all humankind, irrespective of nation, race, or religion.

It's not about Pakistan. Its about humanity as a whole.

cough cough, America should be blamed

which country spends the most on their armed forces, nuclear weapons, and military equipment?
America, the biggest bullies of all time, are responsible for their mess. If they weren't so nosy and always looking to land their troops in other countries, a nuclear arms race would never have occurred.

if Nuclear disarment across all nations must occur, America needs to take the first step. After all they are the "leaders" of the world!

I'm all up for nuclear dis-engagement and eliminating armed forces around the world; but only if other countries are willing to give it up as well.

 

[Safriz]

Pakistan has the doctrine of building Tactical nuclear weapons instead of Strategic nukes.
a megaton yeild nuclear weapon loses most of its power in digginga crater and throwing dust in the air..But distribute that into small warheads and the effeciency per Kiloton in terms of desctruction will increase...
Miniature nuclear weapons are potent weapons,they wont mass murder people and wont evaporate cities but can be used for purely battlefield warfare.
Suppose a fleet of enemy destroyers had blocked Karachi port...and Pakistan wants to remove the Neval
destroyers...
You can fire missiles on them,whch are expensive and Pakistan doeant hav eenough...
Or Pakistan can fire a very low yeld Nuclear device and damage the entire fleet enough to disable them instead of sinking them...
Here is an example of what half a kiloton can do..and Pakistan builts similar weapons i supppose

 

[shree835]

Yes Pakistan need lot of ... Please Invest more into it.

 

[LimPeh]

I saw some posters here suggesting Pakistan should denuclearize. Bad idea if they are going to be walking that road alone. Nuclear weapons as a whole are a pathetic idea. What glory is there in trying to break records in the maximum number of civilians killed per second. The entire world should step away from nuclear weapons, not just one.

Those are expensive though. How many nuclear weapons do you guys actually have? I don't think you would be needing that many though if you just have one adversary in the region.

 

[The SC]

Well, we all are still in a lowly stage of human development where we cannot think beyond war.

It will take humanity a paradigm shift of consciousness to graduate to the higher level of consciousness where war and arrogance and suspicion will be passé, when humans will start thinking of humanism instead, perusing the goal of happiness, freedom, and progress in economic, cultural, and ethical aspects of all humankind, irrespective of nation, race, or religion.

It's not about Pakistan. Its about humanity as a whole.

The key point is to get over the animal instinct and control it on an individual basis, a very difficult task to achieve even for phd holders, imagine for common people. This path is very difficult and needs a lot of self discipline, a lot of effort and a total change of thought behaviour and habits.

So let's continue our animals like game on forums on the streets and worldwide, that seems more suitable to humanity in its present conditions.

Enlightenment is so rare in the human realm, that many who have attained it in the past were considered to be gods or elevated to the status of God; Buddha and the likes, and by the best thinking people at that. Can you imagine.

There are many ways of salvation, and after exploring most of the major ones I found personally that Islam (the submission to the will of the creator( for the believers), of the will of nature- with its immutable laws - (for agnostics and even disbelievers or atheists.) is the most comprehensive and yet the simplest one.

My own opinion.



Back to topic,

Pakistani nukes are some kind of fission fusion boasted nukes, with an enhanced yield to 300 Kt per warhead and less or more obviously, since it is a controllable matter.
The Muslim Ummah will prevail.

 

[Thorough Pro]

As though we needed you advice!

We are building nuclearcluster bombs, Shree jee to ensure total annihilation of would be adversaries. but don't worry you are our friends as long as your government behaves.............

Yes Pakistan need lot of ... Please Invest more into it.

 

[tvsram1992]

india wants to commit collateral suicide- thats why-

Wiping Pakistan is not a suicide . The more nukes pakistan acquires it becomes burden to them it will further halt the development .

 

[itaskol]

NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein
by playing this simulation. you will see small Nuclear B under 100KT is not so powerful as we usually think.
to destroy city like new dehli, it needs at least 1MT.

 

[Thorough Pro]

you should be happy then..........

 

[Safriz]

This is half Kiloton tactical weapon explosion..Its a small warhead but look at the effectiveness...
id not sink the ships but damaged them enough to render useless or cause retreat...
This can be done with one weapon...Doing the same with conventional weapons will be very difficult for Pakistan ans dont have that many precissiomn guided weapons.