Pakistan needs more nukes?

[itaskol]

So our 45K won't even kill half of Dehli?

Thermal radiation radius of a 45K NB is less than 4 km. Dehli is big

 

[tvsram1992]

Troll ? I have seen your off topic crap in threads , dont get me started ...

What do you thought would happen if Pakistan is destroyed ? Will we spare you ?

Yes you had everything to attack us first in '87 and '02 and yet you Threatened , Mobilized and Backed off - not to mention lost 800 soldiers without us firing a single bullet ... Speaks volumes about your capability to harm my country ... What the **** could you do after Mumbai Attack ? ... Nobody needs size to resist nuclear attack , that is what Second Strike Capability is for

you are the one bringing off topic things in to the thread . You can go and check what you did in the threads you are referring to . lol you have second strike capability . Its joke of the decade . lol we were scared that a country would be vanished if we attack them . Not to mention previously we destroyed their armed forces more than half and we were freely roaming in your territory . Your are proving ignorance here size also matters in case of nuclear attack. Dont your fellow mates say one nuke is enough for Israel ? And coming to 26/11 , why should we attack a country which is self destroying ? You want me to give me list of your soldiesrs and citizens who were killed with out us firing a bullet ? I must appreciate you for shedding your blood in fight of Drone vs terrorists . Please look at your self in mirror before making such idiotic comments .

 

[rai_kamal]

India can never be a world power even the defence budget of britain, spain , saudi arabia more than indians check the defence systems of these countries.

India can build 100 artilaries in 1 crore inr they can't thats why our budget is less and sufficient..
And it is increasing.
And plz stop saying that India will never be a world power it is almost there with 4th most powerful military,10th largest economy,etc etc. just wait by 2016 and u'll get your answer..

 

[nirreich]

India can build 100 artilaries in 1 crore inr they can't thats why our budget is less and sufficient..
And it is increasing.
And plz stop saying that India will never be a world power it is almost there with 4th most powerful military,10th largest economy,etc etc. just wait by 2016 and u'll get your answer..

Well, it can be determined that Pakistan cannot be as powerful as India and the gap continues to grow. Developing more nuclear weapons will not help Pakistan in achieving strategic balance with India.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Nuclear weapons alone cannot make pakistan a world power. It is economic development and scientific progress that elevates nations to world power status.

I am not saying that nukes are not necessary. In the context of pakistan they are surely a deterrent and security measure. But nukes, even if you have 1000 of them, cannot make you a world power without an indigenous industrial base. eg. India has almost the same nukes as pakistan but is a world power, while pakistan is not atm.

Correction here, India is a middle and regional power.

 

[Peregrine]

Well, it can be determined that Pakistan cannot be as powerful as India and the gap continues to grow. Developing more nuclear weapons will not help Pakistan in achieving strategic balance with India.

And your source for saying all that is? Pakistan has more nukes than India, the air force gap between India and Pakistan is all time low, the state of Indian artillery and infantry was stated by their own military........... So please share on what grounds are you making these claims?

 

[regular]

Well, it can be determined that Pakistan cannot be as powerful as India and the gap continues to grow. Developing more nuclear weapons will not help Pakistan in achieving strategic balance with India.

Let India develop very precious targets for our Nukes....Cuz eventually India has to beg us in order not to shoot and destroy them and we gonna charge money for that ........

 

[v9s]

Pakistan's entire nuclear programme is heavily based on China's assistance

Not even close.

 

[nirreich]

Not even close.

Why denying the undeniable? China granted Pakistan the entire information about nuclear weapons design (which later find their way to Libya thanks to AQ Khan's gang), nuclear powers including the technologies required for plutonium reprocessing facility, highly enriched uranium for weapon-grade and uranium to feed the centrifuges in KRL. Furthermore, Pakistan's ICBM programme is based on China's missiles and technologies.

Close enough?

 

[v9s]

Why denying the undeniable? China granted Pakistan the entire information about nuclear weapons design (which later find their way to Libya thanks to AQ Khan's gang), nuclear powers including the technologies required for plutonium reprocessing facility, highly enriched uranium for weapon-grade and uranium to feed the centrifuges in KRL. Furthermore, Pakistan's ICBM programme is based on China's missiles and technologies.

Close enough?

1. No.

2. We're talking about Pakistan's nuclear programme, not the missile programme.

3. Nuclear weapons to Libya? No. Nuclear enrichment tech? Yes.

4. China's support is acknowledged, but saying "China granted Pakistan the entire information about nuclear weapons design" is a gross overstatement. China might've helped us with the design of the Khushab Reactor but the rest is just speculation of "experts." We've also helped China by providing the centrifuge tech of KRL too. If you've bothered to read the various articles/books on Pakistan's nuclear programme, you'd see that while we didn't have much of an industrial base back then, we managed to acquire nuclear tech from various European countries (mostly Germany) and managed to successfully reverse-engineer them, and construct them ourselves, which obviously required some help from foreign countries initially, and I'm not ashamed to admit that.

But see, the way you've phrased your replies seems as if you're insinuating that Pakistani scientists aren't capable enough and thus you come off as condescending douche.

 

[regular]

Why denying the undeniable? China granted Pakistan the entire information about nuclear weapons design (which later find their way to Libya thanks to AQ Khan's gang), nuclear powers including the technologies required for plutonium reprocessing facility, highly enriched uranium for weapon-grade and uranium to feed the centrifuges in KRL. Furthermore, Pakistan's ICBM programme is based on China's missiles and technologies.
Close enough?

Are U guyz jealous about it. We will get and shold get whatever we need for our sovereignity/survival/defence. U guyz got everything from USA including ure missiles, ICBMs, ThermoNukes, Nuclear subs and stealth fighters etc etc. This list goes on and on.....

 

[PakistaniandProud]

USA made their nukes with the help of Canadians and Brits..

 

[nirreich]

1. No.

2. We're talking about Pakistan's nuclear programme, not the missile programme.

3. Nuclear weapons to Libya? No. Nuclear enrichment tech? Yes.

4. China's support is acknowledged, but saying "China granted Pakistan the entire information about nuclear weapons design" is a gross overstatement. China might've helped us with the design of the Khushab Reactor but the rest is just speculation of "experts." We've also helped China by providing the centrifuge tech of KRL too. If you've bothered to read the various articles/books on Pakistan's nuclear programme, you'd see that while we didn't have much of an industrial base back then, we managed to acquire nuclear tech from various European countries (mostly Germany) and managed to successfully reverse-engineer them, and construct them ourselves, which obviously required some help from foreign countries initially, and I'm not ashamed to admit that.

But see, the way you've phrased your replies seems as if you're insinuating that Pakistani scientists aren't capable enough and thus you come off as condescending douche.

The entire Chinese assistance is well documented in books and articles about Pakistan's nuclear programme. AQ Khan himself confirmed it and provided evidence about it. The missile programme is connected to the nuclear programme - this is the main delivery system of Pakistan's nuclear weapons.

Without China there could not be any cold test in 1984 or nuclear missiles in 1989. Without China Pakistan was forced to wait maybe another ten years before being able to develop a nuclear device.

 

[Zarvan]

The entire Chinese assistance is well documented in books and articles about Pakistan's nuclear programme. AQ Khan himself confirmed it and provided evidence about it. The missile programme is connected to the nuclear programme - this is the main delivery system of Pakistan's nuclear weapons.

Without China there could not be any cold test in 1984 or nuclear missiles in 1989. Without China Pakistan was forced to wait maybe another ten years before being able to develop a nuclear device.

Sir except America no country has made Nuclear weapons without any external help Sir Britian took help from America Russia took help from two American scientists China took help from Russia and also India takes help from Russia in Missile and also the main weapons and Pakistan took help from China nothing new but now Pakistan develops Missiles on its own

 

[nirreich]

Sir except America no country has made Nuclear weapons without any external help Sir Britian took help from America Russia took help from two American scientists China took help from Russia and also India takes help from Russia in Missile and also the main weapons and Pakistan took help from China nothing new but now Pakistan develops Missiles on its own

You are quite right, Your Pakistani fellow's insistence to claim the opposite was indeed absurd.

Although other countries received external nuclear assistance, the Chinese nuclear assistance to Pakistan is unprecedented. No other country delivered a foreign country highly enriched uranium and weapons design and technologies as China helped Pakistan.

Pakistan long-range missile programme is heavily based on Chinese technologies and always was (except AQ Khan's and KRL's efforts to develop the Ghuri based on North Korea's missile technologies). I will not be surprised if in one way or another China is still involved in Pakistan's missile programmes.