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Pakistan Needs J-20 If It Wants To Stand A Chance

So China is ready to sell J20?
what is the price of each unit... I doubt China will give you free or heavey discount like US did....

Why worry so much about cost? Are you willing to pay? :D

Pakistan will manage if big ticket item is purchased from China so don't worry. :D
 
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Why worry so much about cost? Are you willing to pay? :D

Pakistan will manage if big ticket item is purchased from China so don't worry. :D

And, most probably payment will be made in yuan. IMHO, this is the real game changer since the end of WW2. All weapon systems are there to support this....
 
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And, most probably payment will be made in yuan. IMHO, this is the real game changer since the end of WW2. All weapon systems are there to support this....

Pakistan has already said that in future it may build locally 5th gen with support of it's allies, here China and Turkey with there tech and influence over tech companies will play major role, J-20 design can be taken and modified as per requirements and hybrid of Chinese and western tech will make it very different fighter jet.
 
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This is precisely what I think they (as distinct from 'we' LOL) ought to do. Not invest millions in cash and in loans on shiny new toys.



Are there two of you writing these posts? I am thoroughly confused. On the one hand, we have these very intelligent summaries. Let me not go to the other hand; I'd have to wash carefully afterwards.

Seriously confused.



You are right, but at this stage, India is weakest and most vulnerable. Once the gaps get plugged, if they get plugged, it will be difficult for Pakistan to resist the next wave, which will not be with the well-provisioned military, it will be through other means. And I DO NOT hint at underhand funding of terrorists.

Trust me we would manage to handle your first wave as well the seconds wave but you wouldn't be able to handle our seconds wave even with the help of uncle Sam
Regards :-)

i think,Pakistan has a weakness at air defense.Army is strong. What about navy? Tell me.

Navy is the weakest
 
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Trust me we would manage to handle your first wave as well the seconds wave but you wouldn't be able to handle our seconds wave even with the help of uncle Sam
Regards :-)

You mean any 30-year old boob with 45 posts and six months' standing can bob up and down and tell us that he has an infallible evaluation of the military capabilities of two nations, and we have to listen?

You've got to be joking.

Regards


Navy is the weakest

Hmm. We have a supreme court judge with us. The judgements never stop.

OK, one little thing at a time. Next step: make them sound judgements.
 
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In terms of defending Pakistan air space PAF is quite capable of it and will be in future, as new advance systems are coming online, the issue is deep strike, SEAD/DEAD against very capable Indian air defence and here fighters like Su-35, EFT-T3B comes into consideration they both add robust strike and air defence capabilities but when it comes to J-20 it's a game changer in sub continent because even if IAF get FGFA or PAK FA the PAF will still be able to hit India hard with surprise element like 65, it will allow PAF to go for preemtive strikes which since 90s they can't do.

The only way Pakistan can get J-20 is if she is attacked by india which is very unlikely at the moment.
 
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Pak SPD knows rather well what is needed and when. We must have faith in professionals.

What Pak desperately needs is deep evaluation of its defensive doctorine. First and far most. Everything else should be byproduct of this.

What Pak Joint Defence Force must work towards is Integerated Defence Systems with deep networked assets working like clock work.

Why can't a future block of JF17 or Next Generation Fighter be deployed as Conductor of stealth drones in a sublime symphony of innovative, creative defence?

Pak needs to work towards AI and land, sea, air based unmanned systems. Cost effective and devastating. The technology is there and Pak engineers can replicate it rather fast.

My vote is for JF17 III+ blocks and NGF of PAF with massive fleet of homemade drones with the help of the Dragon.

One million dollar system will decimate a billion dollar SAM and runways and tactical targets.

Time for practical creativity and directed evolution!

China will never allow the integerity of Pak state ever come into question. So J20 or anything else is not even an if or but. Pak must work towards self-reliance with help of true friends.

All the very best to Pak brothers.

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The only way Pakistan can get J-20 is if she is attacked by india which is very unlikely at the moment.

India want backing of US and it's allies to attack Pakistan, if Trump is elected a war between India and Pakistan is possible.
 
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We are doing just bla bla bla are indians are purchasing defence items like cats and dogs.
 
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India want backing of US and it's allies to attack Pakistan, if Trump is elected a war between India and Pakistan is possible.

That's an understatement. The term inevitable is applicable here.


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Pak SPD knows rather well what is needed and when. We must have faith in professionals.

What Pak desperately needs is deep evaluation of its defensive doctorine. First and far most. Everything else should be byproduct of this.

What Pak Joint Defence Force must work towards is Integerated Defence Systems with deep networked assets working like clock work.

Why can't a future block of JF17 or Next Generation Fighter be deployed as Conductor of stealth drones in a sublime symphony of innovative, creative defence?

Pak needs to work towards AI and land, sea, air based unmanned systems. Cost effective and devastating. The technology is there and Pak engineers can replicate it rather fast.

My vote is for JF17 III+ blocks and NGF of PAF with massive fleet of homemade drones with the help of the Dragon.

One million dollar system will decimate a billion dollar SAM and runways and tactical targets.

Time for practical creativity and directed evolution!

China will never allow the integerity of Pak state ever come into question. So J20 or anything else is not even an if or but. Pak must work towards self-reliance with help of true friends.

All the very best to Pak brothers.

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India is waiting for Trump's victory in the election. They think Trump will shower them with every kind of assistance against Pakistan because they have seen how Trump indiscriminately calls all Muslims terrorists. Modi and his RSS terrorists have the same narrative. I'm afraid in this case the expectation of these indians is not unrealistic. Trumps blind hatred towards the Muslims will make him an ideal stooge of the RSS terrorists. If Trump wins China won't even have Russia by her side during an indo-Pak conflict.
 
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That's an understatement. The term inevitable is applicable here.




India is waiting for Trump's victory in the election. They think Trump will shower them with every kind of assistance against Pakistan because they have seen how Trump indiscriminately calls all Muslims terrorists. Modi and his RSS terrorists have the same narrative. I'm afraid in this case the expectation of these indians is not unrealistic. Trumps blind hatred towards the Muslims will make him an ideal stooge of the RSS terrorists. If Trump wins China won't even have Russia by her side during an indo-Pak conflict.


Bring it on. Yawn......Yawn......not bothered in the slightest. These guys are all talk. Let them try. Big talk in speeches and on the net don't change anything. Think the Blacks, Mexicans and Muslims in America are going to have some problems should Trump win. Eventually alot of the non-whites in America are going to suffer because a Trump victory is only going to emboldened the racists and those who have been hiding their right wing tendencies all their lives.
 
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Bring it on. Yawn......Yawn......not bothered in the slightest. These guys are all talk. Let them try. Big talk in speeches and on the net don't change anything. Think the Blacks, Mexicans and Muslims in America are going to have some problems should Trump win. Eventually alot of the non-whites in America are going to suffer because a Trump victory is only going to emboldened the racists and those who have been hiding their right wing tendencies all their lives.

Modi and his RSS terrorists love to believe that they are pure Aryans Hitler sought all his life. In order to prove that they will do anything for Trump and his fellow KKK Nazis.
 
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Modi and his RSS terrorists love to believe that they are pure Aryans Hitler sought all his life. In order to prove that they will do anything for Trump and his fellow KKK Nazis.


They're NOT Aryans. It's like us believing that we are divine beings from the Plaideas Constellation. The Aryans are the Germainc blue-eyed blondes that populate Europe. If they think their Aryans then they're all severely retarded and in dire need of psychological therapy.
 
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That's an understatement. The term inevitable is applicable here.




India is waiting for Trump's victory in the election. They think Trump will shower them with every kind of assistance against Pakistan because they have seen how Trump indiscriminately calls all Muslims terrorists. Modi and his RSS terrorists have the same narrative. I'm afraid in this case the expectation of these indians is not unrealistic. Trumps blind hatred towards the Muslims will make him an ideal stooge of the RSS terrorists. If Trump wins China won't even have Russia by her side during an indo-Pak conflict.

If Indo-Pak war happened it will be very bloody and Pakistan to some extent expect that "A war is coming" in case Trump wins therefore some preparations are under way.

In case of Trumps win and implementation of his views could trigger a nuclear war in Sub continent.
 
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