Pakistan Navy Sailing Club Islamabad

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1. Army is servant to the Civilian Government, but not in this rogue state, here it's the other way around.

2. Army is given a budget to buy defence weapons, send high merit soldiers abroad for diverse trainings, and to invest in military R&D. But instead we have the Army announcing Askari Airlines, the Navy building a fancy club house, the Air Marshal making a big *** mansion which even illegal went onto another public property. The only cars the elites in this institution drive are expensive bullet proof jeeps and jet black mercedes escorted by 2 vans of rangers. Quite brave.

do you know what govt. does for retired military personnel who are btw in age group 35-60 unlike most retiring govt. employees.
zero zilch nada
that gives rise to the need of bahria/foji/shaheen foundation who create indigenously generated funds to form new corporations where these folks get chance to get employed.

what you say or think means nothing in the face of reality where no one would want to join forces if he sees a bleak future upon retiring.

nobody is a servant to no one..every institution needs to work in its sphere.. and advise accordingly..if head of state is harming security of the state army and judiciary has all the right to get him off (read the army act and its allegiance to state in its oath)..if judiciary gets filled with rotten eggs the govt. and president have the authority to clean it up.if a general is misleading a country into a war the head of state has all the right to remove him.President should have the right to kick out the pm and you will soon see it back in action...

at the end of the day it doesn't matter what you think is rogue ..what matters is what works forthe country is adopted.

 

[ghazi52]

IHC directs CDA to seal Navy sailing club
The Frontier Post

/ July 23, 2020

Abdullah Momand

ISLAMABAD: The Islam-abad High Court (IHC) on Thursday ordered the federal capital top civic agency the Capital Development Authority (CDA) to seal Navy Sailing Club on the Rawal Lake immediately as the building totally lacks legal cover.

While expressing extreme displeasure over the construction of the club, the Chief Justice Athar Minallah directed Secretary Interior to seal the club through the Capital Deve-lopment Authority (CDA).

The CJ also summoned affidavits from the CDA chairman Amir Ali Ahmed and board members.

In the remarks, Justice Minallah questioned “under which law, Pakistan Navy operates a commercial project.” The court ordered that it be satisfied on the matter at the next hearing. If the club is not sealed by the hearing next week, the cabinet secretary has to appear before court. The CJ also ordered the matter to be presented before the federal cabinet.

These aren’t the tribal areas, this is the country’s capital, he said adding we appreciate your many sacrifices and respect you, he told the navy representative. This is especially because of your martyrs, he recalled. The court remarked that no one is above the law. Neither this court nor anyone else.”

The judge called the CDA’s reply alarming and they have been unable to assert their authority. A board member of the CDA informed the court that there was no allotment letter for the land on which the club is built.

It should be noted here that Pakistan Navy on protected land of Zone 3, illegally established their sailing club having no approval from the civic agency which was later challenged in Islamabad High Court.

When asked what the CDA had done, he said it had issued notices. “What do you mean you issued notices?” asked Justice Athar Minallah.” Go knock down illegal buildings.”

The additional attorney-general told the court he wanted to assist it, but Justice Minallah told him he couldn’t. Go seal the building instead, he said.

The board member told the court that the prime minister gave permission for construction along the Rawal Lake. Answer what I am asking you, the chief justice said. He questioned the CDA’s attitude towards the poor and asked why they had a different attitude now. Tell us whether the sailing club is illegal or legal, he asked.

The member called it an “unapproved building”. “What does that mean? That means it’s illegal,” said Justice Minallah. He reminded everyone that the law will be followed as no one is above it.

When the Pakistan Navy representative asked for time to submit a reply Justice Minallah asked what he wanted time for. “No one is above the law, including this court,” he said. “We respect you, appreciate your sacrifices and honour your martyrs but if you will move beyond laws isn’t right and you will be made accountable adding that “Why are you defending something that is indefensible? court remarked.

He asked why the court shouldn’t initiate negligence proceedings against the CDA chairman and board members. The court later adjourned the case for a week.

 

[Psychic]

do you know what govt. does for retired military personnel who are btw in age group 35-60 unlike most retiring govt. employees.
zero zilch nada
that gives rise to the need of bahria/foji/shaheen foundation who create indigenously generated funds to form new corporations where these folks get chance to get employed.

what you say or think means nothing in the face of reality where no one would want to join forces if he sees a bleak future upon retiring.

So that means that they should start constructing buildings illegally? Without purchasing the land beforehand or on land which belongs to CDA?

 

[khail007]

Probably not, but I've seen plenty of poverty in our country. I've seen children sleeping on the streets in the summer day time heat, I've seen the malnourished, I've seen big strong men work themselves to skeletons trying to survive.

I think they need this money more than the sailors need indoor swimming pools and a club house.

I'm sure you've seen a lot more than me. I am only lucky enough to be a guest in Pakistan every few years.

Yes by your logic all cricket, hockey and sports club should be banned in country; whatever built should be demolished or sealed.
Did you ever lived in armed forces installation and do you know how they manage and run them?
Please avoid to foul mouthing and blame military for corruption. These son of the soils are irrigating the Motherland with blood not absconding to the foreign countries under the cover of false medical reports.

 

[Psychic]

Yes by your logic all cricket, hockey and sports club should be banned in country; whatever built should be demolished or sealed.
Did you ever lived in armed forces installation and do you know how they manage and run them?
Please avoid to foul mouthing and blame military for corruption. These son of the soils are irrigating the Motherland with blood not absconding to the foreign countries under the cover of false medical reports.

The construction was illegal.

CDA sent them notices when they started the construction work but they didn't comply.

Guarding the border does not make them above the law. It doesn't give them the right to grab any piece of land they covet by force.

These son of the soils are irrigating the Motherland with blood not absconding to the foreign countries under the cover of false medical reports.

 

[khail007]

The construction was illegal.

CDA sent them notices when they started the construction work but they didn't comply.

Guarding the border does not make them above the law. It doesn't give them the right to grab any piece of land they covet by force.

If they done it out of law it is OK to seal it that is another dimension of the case.
If you go through my post, I just answered on 'why navy constructed it while there is poverty in country?' Is it armed forces job to improve the economy? You also responded with only knee-jerk reaction.
Without supporting the illegal construction of navy, could you provide the legality of lands/plots illegally owned by all Pakistanis. What guarding institutions are doing when illegal possession starts? Only waiting for completion and then move to the courts?
Further ruling the state for five years provide any to be above the law? Yes it is proven in Pakistan, thieves of Pakistan/corrupts and convicted are enjoying free life while those who committed corruption of pennies are in jails - dual faced justice system.

The construction was illegal.

CDA sent them notices when they started the construction work but they didn't comply.

Guarding the border does not make them above the law. It doesn't give them the right to grab any piece of land they covet by force.

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Again there are many Faiz Issa's - dual faced justice system ... there are black spots on the face of people/state of Pakistan.

 

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So that means that they should start constructing buildings illegally? Without purchasing the land beforehand or on land which belongs to CDA?

i think you have comprehension issues..
i was replying to a question why NAvy built it in first place "with blood sweat money of people"

As for the CDA notice thats from November last year.. if there was any encroachment that happened knowingly or unknowingly it has been rectified , the issue was resolved amicably and thats why the center got inaugurated earlier this month.

why did it happen? ..there are contractors who work on a project and may do error of judgement..if you want to run your imagination that some admiral wanted to save some money here and resorted to corrupt practices , be my guest. but do come back with solid evidence when you allege someone..

 

[khail007]

i think you have comprehension issues..
i was replying to a question why NAvy built it in first place "with blood sweat money of people"

As for the CDA notice thats from November last year.. if there was any encroachment that happened knowingly or unknowingly it has been rectified , the issue was resolved amicably and thats why the center got inaugurated earlier this month.

why did it happen? ..there are contractors who work on a project and may do error of judgement..if you want to run your imagination that some admiral wanted to save some money here and resorted to corrupt practices , be my guest. but do come back with solid evidence when you allege someone..

Sir, thanks for addressing the unfounded allegations/knee-jerk reaction of a member.
The land allocated for club was in 1991-92; I don't have the slightest idea, why it comes to lime light in 2020.
The main concern against club is based on environmental issue and demand of NOC based on same - which must be addressed by PN.
IMO some elements with vested interests/ignorance do not leave any stone unturned to malign armed forces of Pakistan; such allegations and propaganda only for that single purpose.

 

[313ghazi]

Yes by your logic all cricket, hockey and sports club should be banned in country; whatever built should be demolished or sealed.
Did you ever lived in armed forces installation and do you know how they manage and run them?
Please avoid to foul mouthing and blame military for corruption. These son of the soils are irrigating the Motherland with blood not absconding to the foreign countries under the cover of false medical reports.

I've got not association with the armed forces (apart from 1 cousin who is a junior officer in the forces). If sports clubs are publically funded, then they ought to let members of the public join. If not they shouldn't be publically funded. My objection was about the excess using public funding. If this was a gym to sailors to train at, it wouldn't be a problem, but it's a glorified club house for the admiralty.

 

[313ghazi]

Isn't it a bussiness? Navy would earn from this club. Spending on weapons is waste this is investment

I don't know - would they really earn a lot of money? Even so, if they want to do business, quit the navy and go do business. The navy is supposed to protect our borders not do business.

 

[Imran Khan]

Isn't it a bussiness? Navy would earn from this club. Spending on weapons is waste this is investment

badshah hain ap sir
the profit will be spend on another such project and then another company and then buy more companies same like AWT . do you really thing they will earn and buy SAR choppers from it ?

 

[R Wing]

This wasn't needed. Period

There's also an SC case going on against the Pak Naval Farms constructed under no clear legal authority in Islamabad. Neither the CDA nor the Navy's counsel could come up with a specific law that allows a government service (esp Defence-related) to construct such residential schemes.

The construction was illegal.

CDA sent them notices when they started the construction work but they didn't comply.

Guarding the border does not make them above the law. It doesn't give them the right to grab any piece of land they covet by force.

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As always, you get it.

 

[khail007]

I've got not association with the armed forces (apart from 1 cousin who is a junior officer in the forces). If sports clubs are publically funded, then they ought to let members of the public join. If not they shouldn't be publically funded. My objection was about the excess using public funding. If this was a gym to sailors to train at, it wouldn't be a problem, but it's a glorified club house for the admiralty.

You information is not up to date, this club is built from the funds of PN personnel, deducted from their salaries on monthly basis - no public fund is involved.
Further, of course there is entertainment dimension this facility, but most of those who will be trained and practice here, will join the teams which will help civilian authorities in case of any disaster related to boats accidents and flood relief operations.
Again, these sons of soil put their lives at risk to save others - a noble cause of humanity.

badshah hain ap sir
the profit will be spend on another such project and then another company and then buy more companies same like AWT . do you really thing they will earn and buy SAR choppers from it ?

Sir G, such type of schemes usually built with welfare of on strength/retired/Shaheed personnel families in mind. Definitely not for buying weapons.

 

[313ghazi]

You information is not up to date, this club is built from the funds of PN personnel, deducted from their salaries on monthly basis - no public fund is involved.
Further, of course there is entertainment dimension this facility, but most of those who will be trained and practice here, will join the teams which will help civilian authorities in case of any disaster related to boats accidents and flood relief operations.
Again, these sons of soil put their lives at risk to save others - a noble cause of humanity.



Sir G, such type of schemes usually built with welfare of on strength/retired/Shaheed personnel families in mind. Definitely not for buying weapons.

In that case i have no objection to it whatsoever.

 

[khail007]

In that case i have no objection to it whatsoever.

Still I will request you, please always dig deep before taking surface issues as realities - there is lot of unhealthy activities based on lies for misguiding general opinion.