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[fatman17]

if you look closely, you will find that countries have corvettes that are the size of F22Ps. we need something more.

Depends on what you want to do with them!

 

[S.Y.A]

Depends on what you want to do with them!

bhai kanchay to nahin khelnay, defence hi krna hai. And to do that we need to have larger ships which pack a greater punch.

 

[fatman17]

bhai kanchay to nahin khelnay, defence hi krna hai. And to do that we need to have larger ships which pack a greater punch.

In that case kindly advise our navy planners.

 

[araz]

bhai kanchay to nahin khelnay, defence hi krna hai. And to do that we need to have larger ships which pack a greater punch.

Kanchay aside what platform do you recommend we buy. More importantly where is the money going to come from and who will bear the running costs. We are having difficulty repaying the loans that we have and you are proposing taking on more responsibilities. When running a country with a messed up economy like Pakistan how do you determine what your priorities are. For instance given that you need to build a dam to prevent flooding vs buying these new ships how do you prioritise. This is the crunch question. Once the economic mess gets sorted we will bolster our defence but to bolster our defence of a country with starvation facing us due to shortage of water , and economic depravity due to lack of energy and safety is a more difficult challenge. We have done nothing to change those situations which face us what will we have left to defend

 

[S.Y.A]

Kanchay aside what platform do you recommend we buy. More importantly where is the money going to come from and who will bear the running costs. We are having difficulty repaying the loans that we have and you are proposing taking on more responsibilities. When running a country with a messed up economy like Pakistan how do you determine what your priorities are. For instance given that you need to build a dam to prevent flooding vs buying these new ships how do you prioritise. This is the crunch question. Once the economic mess gets sorted we will bolster our defence but to bolster our defence of a country with starvation facing us due to shortage of water , and economic depravity due to lack of energy and safety is a more difficult challenge. We have done nothing to change those situations which face us what will we have left to defend

why not reduce the size of army then to lets say 200k? we do not have money since the creation of pakistan, yet still we want to maintain a 650k strong army. why not divert the funds saved from there to the airforce/navy.

 

[Danish saleem]

Thanks , someone posted in that thread too!

 

[HRK]

why not reduce the size of army then to lets say 200k? we do not have money since the creation of pakistan, yet still we want to maintain a 650k strong army. why not divert the funds saved from there to the airforce/navy.

& how that will be helpful ?? Can you use Navy in the plains of Punjab, Mountains of Kashmir & Desert of Sindh ... ???

Navy need funds nobody can deny that but it does not mean that the funds should be diverted from the other services towards the Navy, need for the additional funding can be matched by covering the existing loopholes in our revenue generation and general public expenditures; better & disciplined financial management can provide us the required fiscal space for our needs even from the existing resources.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

why not reduce the size of army then to lets say 200k? we do not have money since the creation of pakistan, yet still we want to maintain a 650k strong army. why not divert the funds saved from there to the airforce/navy.

are u for real with 200k soldiers we will never be able to hold defensive lines against an indian agression

 

[S.Y.A]

& how that will be helpful ?? Can you use Navy in the plains of Punjab, Mountains of Kashmir & Desert of Sindh ... ???

Navy need funds nobody can deny that but it does not mean that the funds should be diverted from the other services towards the Navy, need for the additional funding can be matched by covering the existing loopholes in our revenue generation and general public expenditures; better & disciplined financial management can provide us the required fiscal space for our needs even from the existing resources.

the very same plains of punjab witnessed hell when petrol ran out, what will happen, hypothetically speaking, if an enemy enforces a blockade and there is no Navy to break that? there will be no oil either for the army to run its tanks, the airforce to fly its jets, or the public to fill their cars with.

& how that will be helpful ?? Can you use Navy in the plains of Punjab, Mountains of Kashmir & Desert of Sindh ... ???

Navy need funds nobody can deny that but it does not mean that the funds should be diverted from the other services towards the Navy, need for the additional funding can be matched by covering the existing loopholes in our revenue generation and general public expenditures; better & disciplined financial management can provide us the required fiscal space for our needs even from the existing resources.

and 2ndly, to paraphrase araz that Pakistan has an effed up economy, so when nothing is left to defend, then why is such a huge army needed?

are u for real with 200k soldiers we will never be able to hold defensive lines against an indian agression

i was replying to araz, actually. and to what he said about the economy being in a bad shape that we cant spend money on defence. and also, we do have a first use nuclear policy, that is enough to deter indian aggression

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

i was replying to araz, actually. and to what he said about the economy being in a bad shape that we cant spend money on defence. and also, we do have a first use nuclear policy, that is enough to deter indian aggression

in any case of war india will move its over 700000 troops toward us with 200000 troops we are toast
nuclear poilicy says we will use in case if our main cities get occupied ,airforce or navy gets destroyed or if country gets divided into two
why should we even allow these things to happen in the first place nukes are last resort
suppose if india attacks and captures azad kashmire and GB annexes them and declares ceasefire what should we do go gun blazing and nuke india

and 2ndly, to paraphrase araz that Pakistan has an effed up economy, so when nothing is left to defend, then why is such a huge army needed?

economy is getting better in a few years it will be in better shape but revanue can only be generated if gop increases tax net and siezes properties of tax evaders
they were chest thumping that they will increase the revanue by 18% they are 6 percent behind this year
ongoing operations in north west are also eating funds its not just economy

 

[HRK]

the very same plains of punjab witnessed hell when petrol ran out,

Dear petroleum crises which you are referring was caused by Army ?? such a wrong analogy ....

Around $ 4-6 billion annually is being wasted by the lose bearing public enterprises .... PSO despite a profit making institution is on the verge of Default (more appropriately PSO has defaulted on technical grounds during Petrol crises).

Again Discipline Management of resources is the only solution for the current situation.

 

[fatman17]

why not reduce the size of army then to lets say 200k? we do not have money since the creation of pakistan, yet still we want to maintain a 650k strong army. why not divert the funds saved from there to the airforce/navy.

And face 2 potential adversaries on east and west with 200K army.

 

[S.Y.A]

Dear petroleum crises which you are referring was caused by Army ?? such a wrong analogy ....

Around $ 4-6 billion annually is being wasted by the lose bearing public enterprises .... PSO despite a profit making institution is on the verge of Default (more appropriately PSO has defaulted on technical grounds during Petrol crises).

Again Discipline Management of resources is the only solution for the current situation.

just shows that how you rushed to comment without even understanding a word of what I wrote. Please be so kind to read my comment again and then point out that where I said that it was caused by army.

 

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