Pakistan Navy interested in type 056

[farooqbhai007]

lol the iranian warship is gonna be very different from what if ever gets built ..... 96 VLS , and iran has no experience with VLS on any of their past ships

 

[Tipu7]

bro. You misunderstand us.

1. We did not ask Pakistan to buy our warships.

2. We do not rely on exporting weapons to achieve certain political goals.

3. We will not restrict how you use these (we export to you) weapons.

4. You can buy European warships, buy Turkish warships, buy warships of any country. It is your right. But this has nothing to do with us.

5. If you buy our warship. we will sell it to you. If you don’t buy our warship. we do not have any requests.


bro. tell the truth. I'm more shocked by Iran's 3000-ton DDG. It has 96 cell VLS !!

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I was very shocked. Iran, Turkey, and Israel have such powerful warship technology! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

This Ship is a Joke. Just like Zulfiqar 3 and Qahar 313. Iran cannot afford to rely on large vessels.

 

[JamD]

The greater emphasis is on churning out pathetic and useless research papers rather than on actual R&D.

Holupaminute! A sarkari R&D idara is publishing research papers (however crappy)? I dont know how to feel about this since I've always advocated for publishing work.

Since it must be published work, can you share the work so I can just see what they're publishing?

 

[Zarvan]

If PN believes that it need more ships in short interval of time then eyeing Type56 make sense. Eight of them can be delivered, I guess, within 3-4 years.

Though PN has only conducted a Feasibility study yet but it still highlights that the need is there. Western options are expensive and domestic product takes very long time, so when one need more ships in less time & less cost, China is the only place to look at.

@Rafi you should look into PN plans regarding OHP.

Is there any chance instead of Type 56 Pakistan may consider SIGMA Corvette or GOWIND 2500 or the corvette being build for Saudi Arabia and Qatar

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Holupaminute! A sarkari R&D idara is publishing research papers (however crappy)? I dont know how to feel about this since I've always advocated for publishing work.

Since it must be published work, can you share the work so I can just see what they're publishing?

tbh ... even if these guys were getting together to just drink tea, if they're actual engineers and scientists, we can put them to work. There are few human beings on earth with the gall to refuse proper work if given the right rules, expectations, and compensation. Unproductive labour doesn't always mean insincere labour.

The first step is difficult, yes, but we'll never make it if we keep defaulting between Western and Chinese options.

 

[Thorough Pro]

As long as it stays on a table, you can design anything

bro. You misunderstand us.

1. We did not ask Pakistan to buy our warships.

2. We do not rely on exporting weapons to achieve certain political goals.

3. We will not restrict how you use these (we export to you) weapons.

4. You can buy European warships, buy Turkish warships, buy warships of any country. It is your right. But this has nothing to do with us.

5. If you buy our warship. we will sell it to you. If you don’t buy our warship. we do not have any requests.


bro. tell the truth. I'm more shocked by Iran's 3000-ton DDG. It has 96 cell VLS !!

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[SBUS-CXK]

As long as it stays on a table, you can design anything

This is very possible! we have a "25-year cooperation agreement" with Iran. everyone knows that China wants oil. but no one knows what Iran wants.

you know, Chinese shipbuilding technology is not too backward....

 

[imranyounus]

won't comment on Iran's ability to produce this ship.
But it looks really good design. decent sized ship with pretty much excellent weapons load. Would really appreciate if we could get some thing similar.

62 VSL is huge. and if you can fit in LACM or ASCM this thing will be a menace in enemy mindset.

get just even 2 of these and make IN sweating. even if half the canister are empty.

 

[Falcon26]

bro...why do we create a binary between low-cost China and high-cost Europe? Why not take the middle-path of locally designing (alone or with Turkish assistance) a corvette and building it locally? We must end this narrative (of limiting choice to Chinese or Western) as it drains our budget and kills our industry.

Rather than buy these outdated Chinese vessels, do you foresee a scenario where PN returns to Damen and acquired 3-4 SIGMA Frigate 10514

 

[Shabi1]

Don't see much advantage of these over our F-22Ps. PN is likely just evaluating to see what systems we can improve on our other new acquisitions.

 

[LKJ86]

Rather than buy these outdated Chinese vessels

Type 056/A built since 2011 is not so-called "outdated Chinese vessels", but PLAN's low-cost low-end corvette to replace Type 037.

 

[Zarvan]

Don't see much advantage of these over our F-22Ps. PN is likely just evaluating to see what systems we can improve on our other new acquisitions.

Eight is not a small number to just have a look. Rafi says if Pakistan goes ahead with buying these we may buy eight of them

 

[SD 10]

Type 056/A built since 2011 is not so-called "outdated Chinese vessels", but PLAN's low-cost low-end corvette to replace Type 037.

ignore him!

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Rather than buy these outdated Chinese vessels, do you foresee a scenario where PN returns to Damen and acquired 3-4 SIGMA Frigate 10514

IMO if the PN has the budget for 4 SIGMA 10514s, it'd probably add more MILGEM-J.

 

[Akh1112]

bro. You misunderstand us.

1. We did not ask Pakistan to buy our warships.

2. We do not rely on exporting weapons to achieve certain political goals.

3. We will not restrict how you use these (we export to you) weapons.

4. You can buy European warships, buy Turkish warships, buy warships of any country. It is your right. But this has nothing to do with us.

5. If you buy our warship. we will sell it to you. If you don’t buy our warship. we do not have any requests.


bro. tell the truth. I'm more shocked by Iran's 3000-ton DDG. It has 96 cell VLS !!

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I was very shocked. Iran, Turkey, and Israel have such powerful warship technology! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

On the subject of Iran, we have nothing to say this new ship will actually be a thing. Iran is no stranger to propaganda projects. See the Qaher 313.


On the topic of the SA'AR, they are not designed by Israel. The SA'AR-6 is based off of the Braunschweig Class, modified to accommodate Israeli sensors and weapons.


Touching on Turkey, why is it shocking? Turkey has TONS of experience working on military projects and modifying equipment to meet local needs.