Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Leonardo is in the middle of developing it's AW139 maritime / ASW helicopter. by the time PN is ready to replace it's SeaKings, this platform would be ready and the best bet for a western platform for the PN

I'm not sure about the AW139, but there is a AW149 - enlarged variant - that will be anti-submarine warfare and anti-ship warfare capable. Worth noting that it's powered by the GE CT7, the civil version of the T700 which powers the AH-1Z. But the T700 also powers the S-70 and is an option for the AW101.

 

[Windjammer]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=521896841268097

 

[Cornered Tiger]

In 2011, PN requested SH-60F (equipped with dipping sonar) via EDA to replace The Seakings, BUT later the request was cancelled in 2012. Since Turkey is now producing these, and have export rights too. PN can be re-interested in The SeaHawks.

 

[fatman17]

I'm not sure about the AW139, but there is a AW149 - enlarged variant - that will be anti-submarine warfare and anti-ship warfare capable. Worth noting that it's powered by the GE CT7, the civil version of the T700 which powers the AH-1Z. But the T700 also powers the S-70 and is an option for the AW101.

Too expensive and congress may not approve.

 

[fatman17]

In 2011, PN requested SH-60F (equipped with dipping sonar) via EDA to replace The Seakings, BUT later the request was cancelled in 2012. Since Turkey is now producing these, and have export rights too. PN can be re-interested in The SeaHawks.

Those EDA helos were very old, and if we go the turkish route, will still require a US NOC.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Too expensive and congress may not approve.

Could buy them from Turkey (via TAI's production line).

 

[Readerdefence]

JH 7in action, out over SCS....

 

[fatman17]

Could buy them from Turkey (via TAI's production line).

If it has major components, then NOC still required.

 

[monitor]

Why not AW-159 wildcat?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

If it has major components, then NOC still required.

From the U.S. DoD and State Department, not Congress. It's much easier to get approval from DoD and the State Department than Congress, and going through TAI makes Congress a non-factor. Besides, Turkey also got export licenses with the Black Hawk ToT and is tasked with marketing the platform to countries with whom the U.S. doesn't have the best ties.

Turkish Aerospace Industries (TAI), the prime contractor, said all contracts between Turkey’s procurement agency, the Undersecretariat for Defence Industries (SSM), TAI, Sikorsky and other subcontractors have been signed and have taken effect. TAI said the contracts also include export licenses.

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...elicopter-turkey-sikorsky-tai-tusas/85549586/

Katzen says Ankara’s development of an exportable T-70 derivative of the Black Hawk is not viewed as a competitive threat to PZL Mielec, as Turkish Aerospace Industries is expected to gain access to new markets for the rotorcraft, potentially to include Afghanistan, Pakistan and nations in North Africa. Initial aircraft for the Turkish programme will be produced in Mielec.

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/pzl-mielec-details-s-70i-sales-targets-434648/

Why not AW-159 wildcat?

The AW159 is derived from the Lynx, and the PN actually mothballed (sold) its Lynx helicopters a few years ago because of the UK's unreliability in providing spare parts.

 

[fatman17]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan International Airlines PIA Engineers has achieved a milestone success in the engineering and maintenance of the foreign aircrafts in Pakistan.

Pakistan International Airline’s engineering and maintenance division successfully carried out a major maintenance check ‘1-C’ of Pakistan Navy’s ATR 72 aircraft at Islamabad airport.

The check was completed with the extensive expertise of PIAengineers who worked with dedication to perform this C Check within the projected time and the aircraft rolled out with no defects.

PIA engineering is currently performing all major overhaul checks of Pakistan Navy’s entire ATR fleet.

PIA engineering aims to expand its maintenance capabilities which will allow it to cater to all aircraft models operating in Pakistan and become a leading maintenance services provider in the country as well as the entire region.

 

[fatman17]

I'm not sure if the above news is good or bad for PN.

 

[khanasifm]

I'm not sure if the above news is good or bad for PN.

As pia had been operator of atrs for long time that have existing capability to service atrs so reuse it as long as its work can be certified by Oem , no need to create another repair shop /depot at pn

 

[fatman17]

As pia had been operator of atrs for long time that have existing capability to service atrs so reuse it as long as its work can be certified by Oem , no need to create another repair shop /depot at pn

You're missing my point. PIA dosnt have a steller maintenance record of their ATRs. Already one fatal crash due to PIA maintenance failure.

 

[fatman17]

Pakistan Navy receives Sea King helicopters

KARACHI: The Pakistan Navy has received seven Sea King helicopters that were purchased from the United Kingdom, according to a statement issued on Friday.

The helicopters were formally handed over to Pakistan Navy on 24 May 2017, in a ceremony attended by Syed Ibne Abbas, Pakistan High Commissioner to the UK.

Christopher Bob Richardson represented the UK Ministry of Defence (MoD) in the formal handing over ceremony.

Contract for purchase of seven (07) helicopters was signed last year. A separate contract was signed with M/s Vector Aerospace for maintenance of the aircraft before being shipped to Pakistan later this year.

The High Commissioner lauded the historic relationship between the Armed Forces of Pakistan and the United Kingdom and the role played by the UK in capacity building of Pakistan Armed Forces both in terms of equipment support and training.

He thanked the representatives of the UK MoD, Leonardo and M/s Vector Aerospace for their support in making this project a success and hoped that the cooperation between the two Armed Forces would continue to grow in future.