Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[fatman17]

AC352 ASW

 

[Windjammer]

PN Seakings in Garras. UK.

 

[fatman17]

PN Seakings in Garras. UK.

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what is the reason?

 

[fatman17]

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

How does Sea King weigh against AW101 or the NH90. Anybody?

 

[khanasifm]

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Test range was 450 km, that does not means its max range is 450 km, official statement did not disclose max range which could be more than 450km

 

[fatman17]

How does Sea King weigh against AW101 or the NH90. Anybody?

Do AW101 and NH90 have ASW versions if they do then Seaking is probably inferior.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

PN Seakings in Garras. UK.

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This is an old picture, when they were being delivered to the PN.

How does Sea King weigh against AW101 or the NH90. Anybody?

1. SH-60
2. AW101 or EH101
3. NH 90



SH60

AW101

NH90

 

[Rocky rock]

This is an old picture, when they were being delivered to the PN.



1. SH-60
2. AW101 or EH101
3. NH 90



SH60
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AW101
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NH90
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NH-90 is such a beauty.

 

[Kat]

Do AW101 and NH90 have ASW versions if they do then Seaking is probably inferior.

They both do and yes, the Sea King is inferior. We (Norway) are replacing our Sea Kings (and Westland Lynx) with the AW101 and NH90.

1. SH-60
2. AW101 or EH101
3. NH 90

Mmm, maybe for US models. But export models of the S-70B are downgraded. We trialed the SH-60 (not the export model, but the one the USN uses) but favored the NH90 and AW101 instead.

The NH90 is fully digital, while the Sea King (see below) still uses largely analogue displays and controls.

The knock against the NH90 isn't in its capabilities, but its cost and complicated development history (maintenance problems, slipping deadlines, delays, etc.).

How does Sea King weigh against AW101 or the NH90. Anybody?

The Sea King is serviceable, but old and lacking the modern capabilities or technologies the NH90 and AW101 have.

They're nice helicopters, just not on par with the AW101 or NH90.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Mmm, maybe for US models. But export models of the S-70B are downgraded. We trialed the SH-60 (not the export model, but the one the USN uses) but favored the NH90 and AW101 instead.

I agree.
Export models always are downgraded.

 

[monitor]

Which helicopter could replace aging sea king helicopter? Any Chinese options or western option like AW101 NH-90 ?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Which helicopter could replace aging sea king helicopter? Any Chinese options or western option like AW101 NH-90 ?

Since there are a small number of Sea Kings needing replacement, the PN could look at Western platforms such as the AW101. Yes, each AW101 is expensive, but for 4-6 helicopters, the total cost would be a manageable $300-400 million for the aircraft and a standard maintenance, logistics and training package. Split the payment across 7-10 years, it can be done.

The AW101 would be a good option considering the decent ties with Italy and the fact that the AW101 is large enough to serve as a troop transport too (for Marines and SSGN).

 

[Advocate Pakistan]

I agree, probably we should start working out the plans. Since our neighbour has a tendency to make deals with every supplier to deny Pakistan access to systems (by inclusion of article of non provision to Pakistan of the same system)
They may take up both non-American options. On the other hand, the American option, we all know they have a strong lobbying there.
I remember I saw a video of Rafale back in 2004,5 and wished to see it in PAF colours. But we were going for block 52s.

 

[fatman17]

Since there are a small number of Sea Kings needing replacement, the PN could look at Western platforms such as the AW101. Yes, each AW101 is expensive, but for 4-6 helicopters, the total cost would be a manageable $300-400 million for the aircraft and a standard maintenance, logistics and training package. Split the payment across 7-10 years, it can be done.

The AW101 would be a good option considering the decent ties with Italy and the fact that the AW101 is large enough to serve as a troop transport too (for Marines and SSGN).

Leonardo is in the middle of developing it's AW139 maritime / ASW helicopter. by the time PN is ready to replace it's SeaKings, this platform would be ready and the best bet for a western platform for the PN