Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[black-hawk_101]

PN has only one OHP and it is also useless in current configuration perhaps we should break it down and sell it's scrap.

No it can't be. Just it can be given to US back again or may be US will give it to bahrain which operates one already to have a twin sister ship. In return PN should ask US to supply some 3-4 more P-3Cs which are really lethal.

 

[monitor]

Newly built ATR 72-500 Maritime Patrol aircraft with registration number 9H-AGI (cn 808) Will be the 3rd ATR for Pakistan Navy.
Officials of TAI (Turkish Aerospace Industry) says we will upgrade Pakistan's ATR fleet which will be capable for ASW (Anti-Submarine warfare) missions.

 

[black-hawk_101]

Newly built ATR 72-500 Maritime Patrol aircraft with registration number 9H-AGI (cn 808) Will be the 3rd ATR for Pakistan Navy.
Officials of TAI (Turkish Aerospace Industry) says we will upgrade Pakistan's ATR fleet which will be capable for ASW (Anti-Submarine warfare) missions.

I think PN now more committed towards P-3Cs and ATR-72s then before....

 

[hassan1]

 

[monitor]

I think PN now more committed towards P-3Cs and ATR-72s then before....

Of course ATR probably going to replace focker and trusted and proven p3c Orion will serve PN for many years.

 

[black-hawk_101]

Of course ATR probably going to replace focker and trusted and proven p3c Orion will serve PN for many years.

The current requirements might be like this:
10 P-3Cs
10 ATR-72s
3-5 P-3C with Hawkeye-2000s
may be 5-10 ATR-42s for MSA

I know this is too much but the requirement is growing day by day. I am sure funds will be available too as privatization is going and US might agree as Pakistani Politics might sign the CTBT.

Who is the buyer of Sea King now? And is PN planning to acquire some 15-20 used Puma class for naval role or may be some new NH-90/AW-101/Sea Stallions with Black Hawk.

Though it was better for PN to have:
Sea Stallions with Black Hawk + Dauphins from France rather than Z-9s.

 

[fatman17]

The current requirements might be like this:
10 P-3Cs
10 ATR-72s
3-5 P-3C with Hawkeye-2000s
may be 5-10 ATR-42s for MSA

I know this is too much but the requirement is growing day by day. I am sure funds will be available too as privatization is going and US might agree as Pakistani Politics might sign the CTBT.

Who is the buyer of Sea King now? And is PN planning to acquire some 15-20 used Puma class for naval role or may be some new NH-90/AW-101/Sea Stallions with Black Hawk.

Though it was better for PN to have:
Sea Stallions with Black Hawk + Dauphins from France rather than Z-9s.

I think it's time you joined the ministry of defence as a procurement analyst. Obviously they don't know what to buy.

 

[black-hawk_101]

OK. What PN is planning for the replacement of Sea Kings and Alouttee III?
I think NH-90/AW-101 with some AS 550 Fennecs would be best.

 

[Bratva]

OK. What PN is planning for the replacement of Sea Kings and Alouttee III?
I think NH-90/AW-101 with some AS 550 Fennecs would be best.

PN planning department is meeting in Mental hospital to discuss the future procurement. I guess you should join them too.

 

[fatman17]

Re: Aircraft Taking Part in Relief Operations for Earthquake Affectees

PostFri Oct 30, 2015 10:41 am


Information about Pakistan Navy F27 serial number AR-NZW / 75. It's forty-four years old.

Aircraft Type: Fokker F27 Friendship Mark 400M
Construction Number: 10469
Year Built: 1971
First Flight: October 20, 1971

It joined Pakistan Navy in December 1993 as AR-NZW / 69.

The first operator of this F27 was Ivory Coast Air Force. List of operators from past to present:

November 1971 - Ivory Coast Air Force under registration TU-VAK.
April 1979 - Air Alpes under registration F-GBDE.
May 1979 - Tunisavia under registration F-GBDE.
May 1980 - Air Alpes under registration F-GBDE.
August 1981 - United African Airlines under registration 5A-DJN.
June 1985 - Jamahiriya Air Transport under registration 5A-DJN.
December 1986 - Homac Aviation under registration HB-AAP.
March 1987 - Schreiner Airways under registration PH-SFC.
July 1987 - XP Airlines - Express Parcel Systems under registration PH-SFC.
June 1989 - Schreiner Airways under registration PH-SFC.
October 1989 - Field Survey Flight (Surveyer operated for British Petroleum - BP) under registration PH-SFC.
July 1990 - Field Survey Flight (Surveyer operated for British Petroleum - BP) under registration VR-BLY.
December 1993 - Pakistan Navy serial number 69.
September 1997 - Pakistan Navy serial number 75.

Source: http://www.scramble.nl/civil-database/d ... F27&af=578

 

[black-hawk_101]

the 6 Sea King PN operates has a good chance to be sold to other countries and PN should also adopt the Euro Copters Naval version along with some Dauphins and Fennec.

 

[hassan1]

 

[Khafee]

View attachment 269595

Wasn't this aircraft shot down?

 

[ConcealCarry]

NO, he is pointing to the mentioned approval was for "US Radios" installed in Puma's, not for the Puma's themselves.

Are you trolling a newbie on the forum?

Cablegate: Ghq to Transfer Puma Helicopters to Pakistan
Monday, 6 July 2009, 1:17 pm
Cable: Wikileaks
Ref: 09ABUDHABI686


VZCZCXRO6714
PP RUEHDE RUEHDH RUEHDIR
DE RUEHAD #0686 1871317
ZNR UUUUU ZZH
P 061317Z JUL 09
FM AMEMBASSY ABU DHABI
TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC PRIORITY 2688
INFO RUEHDE/AMCONSUL DUBAI 8338
RUEHLB/AMEMBASSY BEIRUT 0641
RUEHIL/AMEMBASSY ISLAMABAD 1742
RUEHZM/GULF COOPERATION COUNCIL COLLECTIVE
RHMFIUU/HQ USCENTCOM MACDILL AFB FL
RUEKJCS/SECDEF WASHINGTON DC

UNCLAS ABU DHABI 000686

SENSITIVE
SIPDIS

STATE FOR SRAP, SCA/P, NEA/ARP AND PM/DDTC

E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: MARR MOPS PREL ETRD PGOV PK AE
SUBJECT: GHQ TO TRANSFER PUMA HELICOPTERS TO PAKISTAN

1. (SBU) On July 6, the Ambassador met with UAE Armed Forces (GHQ)
Chief of Staff LtGen Mohamed Al Thani Al Rumaithi to urge GHQ to
complete expeditiously necessary USG documents for authorizing the
transfer to Pakistan of US-origin equipment (Rockwell Collins radios
and Cubic PLS) on 14 UAE Puma helicopters. Al Rumaithi said the UAE
was rotating the Pumas out of active duty and hoped to complete the
transfers quickly. He appeared unaware of the specific steps
required to obtain USG approval, but tasked his assistant Brig.
Faris Al Mazrouei with follow up. Al Mazrouei said Pakistan had
told GHQ that neither the radios or PLS were needed. The Ambassador
stressed that the USG could authorize the equipment for transfer to
Pakistan immediately upon receipt of the details from GHQ.

2. (SBU) Later on July 6, GHQ provided the necessary documents for
the transfer authorization of the Rockwell Collins radios, which
have been forwarded to PM/DDTC. Col. Waheed Al Zaaki of GHQ General
Purchasing told EconOff that he is now working to obtain a completed
DSP-83 for the Cubic equipment.
OLSON

Cablegate: Ghq to Transfer Puma Helicopters to Pakistan | Scoop News

Seriously I am really I am pressed with your ability to ignore all the fun and insults and continue with your senseless but very "number" specific rants............you are a prime example of a person who never learns.....like you load a ton of books on a donkey but they don't affect him a bit............. please carry on you were saying we should sell our 3 obsolete sea kings to Britain and buy 97.5 Lama's from Tobago...

OK. What PN is planning for the replacement of Sea Kings and Alouttee III?
I think NH-90/AW-101 with some AS 550 Fennecs would be best.

 

[Aamir Hussain]

He will come up with another wishlist and numbers in response to your post!