Pakistan Naval Aviation - Updated

[Michel Niesten]

It seems ATR-72 nr 77 will depart Mönchengladbach tomorrow back to Pakistan, after conversion to RAS-72 Sea Eagle.

 

[syed_yusuf]

It seems ATR-72 nr 77 will depart Mönchengladbach tomorrow back to Pakistan, after conversion to RAS-72 Sea Eagle.

3rd one right?

 

[Michel Niesten]

3rd one right?

I have seen 4 ATR’s for Pakistan at Mönchengladbach. Nr 77, 78, 79 have been converted to Sea Eagle, the 4th (nr 76) is a standard ATR-72 I think

 

[Great Janjua]

I have seen 4 ATR’s for Pakistan at Mönchengladbach. Nr 77, 78, 79 have been converted to Sea Eagle, the 4th (nr 76) is a standard ATR-72 I think

The 4th one will probably also be converted anyway thanks for the heads-up.

 

[Yasser76]

I like the strategy here of using Sea Eagles for shorty range and light work so sparing hours for long range and heavy work for the Orion/Sea Sultan crews. We do not need a massive and expensive MPA to interdict smugglers or for search and rescue

 

[araz]

I like the strategy here of using Sea Eagles for shorty range and light work so sparing hours for long range and heavy work for the Orion/Sea Sultan crews. We do not need a massive and expensive MPA to interdict smugglers or for search and rescue

Are 3 enough or do you think we will need more than3.
A

 

[HRK]

Are 3 enough or do you think we will need more than3.
A

these 3 Sea Eagles are in addition of 6 or 7 P-3C of PN so fleet of 9 or 10 anti-submarine capable LRMPA aircraft for the coastline of 1,100 km only should be sufficient at least for this decade, meanwhile Sea Sultan programme is expected to be operationally ready & deployed till then.

 

[time pass]

Are 3 enough or do you think we will need more than3.
A

Below is FYI, posted on 16th JUL'22 ....

I believe PN has 8 ATR 72 aircraft & 4th unit is already in the conversion phase to MPA in Germany, However, it's not known if PN will convert the remaining 4 units to MPA configuration too.

 

[farooqbhai007]

these 3 Sea Eagles are in addition of 6 or 7 P-3C of PN so fleet of 9 or 10 anti-submarine capable LRMPA aircraft for the coastline of 1,100 km only should be sufficient at least for this decade, meanwhile Sea Sultan programme is expected to be operationally ready & deployed till then.

First 2 Sea Sultan already under conversion, should be delivered next year.

 

[Pakistan Ka Beta]

It seems ATR-72 nr 77 will depart Mönchengladbach tomorrow back to Pakistan, after conversion to RAS-72 Sea Eagle.

3rd one right?

The 4th one will probably also be converted anyway thanks for the heads-up.

Are 3 enough or do you think we will need more than3.
A

these 3 Sea Eagles are in addition of 6 or 7 P-3C of PN so fleet of 9 or 10 anti-submarine capable LRMPA aircraft for the coastline of 1,100 km only should be sufficient at least for this decade, meanwhile Sea Sultan programme is expected to be operationally ready & deployed till then.

I like the strategy here of using Sea Eagles for shorty range and light work so sparing hours for long range and heavy work for the Orion/Sea Sultan crews. We do not need a massive and expensive MPA to interdict smugglers or for search and rescue

https://twitter.com/x/status/1555505328074248194

 

[HRK]

First 2 Sea Sultan already under conversion, should be delivered next year.

great news ....

 

[araz]

these 3 Sea Eagles are in addition of 6 or 7 P-3C of PN so fleet of 9 or 10 anti-submarine capable LRMPA aircraft for the coastline of 1,100 km only should be sufficient at least for this decade, meanwhile Sea Sultan programme is expected to be operationally ready & deployed till then.

Thank you for your response. I asked the question as there has been previous discussion about having 6 to 8 units which were shorter range for more routine day to day surveillance reserving the heavier long range veraions( 10 per previous plans) for longer range activities. It seems this has been the way PN has acted previously as well with the Fokkers and Atlantiques reserving the P3s for longer range activity.
PN's requirements will depend on availability of funds as always.
A

Below is FYI, posted on 16th JUL'22 ....

Thank you for your response.
Regards
A

 

[ghazi52]

Pakistan Naval Air Arm's No. 28 MS Sqn. equipped with Embraer E190-1000 Lineage Long Range Maritime Patrolling Aircraft (LRMPA).

No. 28 Sqn. is stationed at PNS Mehran, KHI. Pakistan Navy has recently inducted Embraer E190 aircraft to replace Lockheed Martin P3C Orion.

List of Embraer E190 procured by PN:

Embraer E190-1000 Lineage [ex- B-3203]
Embraer E190-1000 Lineage [A6-HHS]
Embraer E190-1000 Lineage [M-AKKU]

 

[HRK]

I asked the question as there has been previous discussion about having 6 to 8 units which were shorter range for more routine day to day surveillance reserving the heavier long range veraions( 10 per previous plans) for longer range activities.

As far as I know PN only has 4 ATR-72 out of which 3 are converted as Sea Eagle LRMPA.

And yes you are right previously there was a discussion about the need for more airframe for near shore MPA role but I don't think PN will increase the size of its current fleet of ATR-72 in immediate future.

 

[Gripen9]

PN should look at augmenting the MPAs with SAR equipped Akinci MALE drones. You can keep 3 aloft 24/7 to cover your whole EEZ.
Fleet of 12-15 should be feasible.