Pakistan makes unprecedented announcement of nuclear capabilities

[JX-1]

Something is off about this announcement itself, leave aside the timing.

Who announces their capabilities to the enemy?

You don't quite understand the nuclear domain; this announcement does not endanger Pakistan's security but does send a strong message to India, who has made repeated declarations that it will invade Pakistan and annex Kashmir.

why the f would india want to invade any country let alone a basket case.

I don't know, ask yourselves why you're obsessed with Pakistan. Aside from from multiple failed surgical strikes and threats to invade Pakistan, everything from the name of your country to your unofficial state religion to your bollywood actors is Pakistani.

Pakistan's nuclear command and control setup by US during Musharraf era. Training and equipment provided by US.

PALs are also US designed. But the US and most American think tanks agree that after the measures taken post-OBL, it is impossible to disable Pakistan's nuclear capability

https://twitter.com/x/status/1662139566386733057

I wouldn't take random tweets with 51 likes as gospel truth.

 

[legacytiger18]

You don't quite understand the nuclear domain; this announcement does not endanger Pakistan's security but does send a strong message to India, who has made repeated declarations that it will invade Pakistan and annex Kashmir.

INDIA will not invade pakistan in next 10 years for sure. what is the use of going to war with pakistan, we know whatever area under pakistani control, we will never get them back . These statements will certainly endanger pakistan's economy and reputation as a responsible country. it will impact any FDI, investments and business as a whole. Dont you see what North Korea did and what happenned to it despite having full china support ?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Ukraine - Russia war has shown , tiny 500,000 strength army dies in 1-2 weeks , if the people of country are not willing to support the military they die in matter of 7-8 days

• Does not matter it is SSG , Ranger , Police , random guy with rifle

Fancy jets last may be 2-4 weeks before Oil Depots are taken out by Long Range missiles

If people of Pakistan are not with Army the twig army will flatten out in 1-2 week max

No one in Pakistan is in mood to go help Pakistan Army
They can grab their $10 ebay medals and given them a Gun to fight


This is how Pakistani people view Pakistani Army as of May 14th 2023

Army should give orders to Airforce and Navy to protect Red zone - Good Luck when shit flies

 

[migflug]

Pakistan army should stop using India for its own domestic politics.


If anyone has been following up on the history of Pakistan for the last 30 years, then it is nothing new for Pakistan whatever is happening now. Pakistan's military is literally doing the same thing since their independence and killing their democratically elected leaders. If you go through their history, Mr Bhutto was one of the popular leaders at that time who has a big support base amongst the people...In spite of such popularity, Army killed him.....And the story has been repeated multiple times in the form of the assassination of different leaders

In spite of such a bad history, Pakistan was able to survive because its army is smart to do its groundwork before everything go downwards. In each of this anarchic situation, they always have the backing of either Arabs, the US, or the UK who supports all the anti-people institutions in their country.

Yep, Pakistani establishment is quite smart, they know how to get a deal out of everyone be it USA, China, ME, quite a Baniyas mentality abhorred by many Pakistanis

 

[JX-1]

These statements will certainly endanger pakistan's economy and reputation as a responsible country. it will impact any FDI, investments and business as a whole.

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. If you seriously believe increased faith in the stability and strength of Pakistan will HARM Pakistan's economy you need to take a break from guzzling garbage from Republic TV and Hindustan Times.

Dont you see what North Korea did and what happenned to it despite having full china support ?

Both India and Pakistan were sanctioned after testing their nukes, just like North Korea. All sanctions on India and Pakistan have been lifted long ago. At least read up on topics before becoming a self proclaimed expert.

 

[JX-1]

No one in Pakistan is in mood to go help Pakistan Army

You're in Canada, so you might be too westernised understand this, but people in Pakistan, especially the rural areas, loathe Hindus and the idea of being ruled by Hindus more than they care about any political party.

 

[JX-1]

The Narrative of India is Evil will have to be revaluated
At least I am starting to see this narrative as false

I no longer see India as any major problem

Re-evaluating the Past occurrence when India - Pakistan relations were at peak and peace was possible it was again a faction supported by Pakistan Military which did the Mumbai Attack

• Pakistan Military was involved in Mumbai Attacks , using a proxy group - they sabotaged the peace process between Pakistan Civilian Body and Indian Civilian Body

• Later the Local Proxy group was banned to self own asses

Pakistan Military again Sabotaged the PTI Government in 2022 , in order to ruin Status of Civilian Authority inside the country

I don't deny that the Army involves itself in civilian affairs (usually at the request of politicians themselves) but it was PTI's own members who defected and voted against IK, no?

Kashmir Issue was created by Military , where the people dying are local kids in Kashmir and the Pakistan Military Heads enjoy their Perks at home

What do you suggest Pakistan do? Invade Kashmir with a budget of 9 billion against India's of 82 billion, and a reserve of 4 billion against India's of 500 billion?

At no point they ever have supported any mandate to support local Kashmiri, when any Kashmiri person dies in Kashmir , Pakistan Military simply watches from side of border and does nothing , because they don't have any mandate to free anything or region

Pakistan has fought multiple wars over Kashmir and thousands of Pakistanis have died for the Kashmir cause. Only post-9/11 when the Americans were blowing up anything remotely militant did Pakistan cease support for Kashmiri fighters.

Without Pakistan, India would've quietly annexed Kashmir and let Hari Singh kill the remainder of Muslims in the state as he did in Jammu.

They are just focused on local governance and happy with "No Action Eating Perks"

It is unfortunate that the last few batches of commanders have had some bad apples, but until the economic destruction form the WoT has been repaired, Pakistan will never be in a position to take any serious "action."

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

It is what it is ...

My view have changed

Together with million of Pakistanis

 

[Redbeanpaste]

Seems most logical explanation but I have difficulty grasping how this will be beneficial to anyone.

I do not think the message is that they will go to the black market.

This is a message from the Army to America.

We need money and we need it now.

The IMF is not being helpful.

They ( international lenders) need a software update from you (USA) and lend us money OR ELSE if law and order breaks down in Pakistan, Nuclear weapons that can be packed in backpacks could get in the hands of terrorists and there is no saying where that will end up.... New York maybe?

This is aimed at the US of A . I have no doubt on that.

 

[legacytiger18]

Again, you have no idea what you're talking about. If you seriously believe increased faith in the stability and strength of Pakistan will HARM Pakistan's economy you need to take a break from guzzling garbage from Republic TV and Hindustan Times.

Both India and Pakistan were sanctioned after testing their nukes, just like North Korea. All sanctions on India and Pakistan have been lifted long ago. At least read up on topics before becoming a self proclaimed expert.

haha, its not about nuclear tests. When economy failed in North Korea, It started blackmailing the world with missiles and nuclear bombs, and see how it is treated in the world now, it became the most isolated country in the world, its only contact is china. Nuclear black-mailing will only lead to isolation. you will see that in next 10 years in pakistan

 

[salarsikander]

North Korea lobs missiles over to the sea. They don't give press releases.

Bui they do keep touting and parroting about their so called capabilities - just like how loser diks are doing here

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

 

[AA_]

THIS!!!


At least one Pakistani has a funtioning brain. Pakistan is in suicide blackmail mode due to impending economic meltdown. This is a last ditch attempt by PDM/establishment to somehow arrange few dollars and survive a few more months. EVeryone knows Pakistan will collapse, PDM is just trying to make sure the collapse comes after elections in Sep/Oct.

It won’t crash. Just a wish of many Indians and some misguided Pakistanis.

The Indians are hoping it does so they can get on with their Akhand Bharat bullshit. The region will be wiped out before Pakistan crashes.

INDIA will not invade pakistan in next 10 years for sure

But after the 10 years, all bets are off right? Listen, I would want a peace with india but the reality is, making peace with a rabid ideology is not in our interests no matter how much weak you think we are and how much strong you think you are.

Even the “moderate” Indians here can’t mask their inner feelings and that’s grabbing pieces of Pakistan when it’s dead. They don’t need to explicit when their words betray their inner thoughts. Just my analysis on most of you.
You very well have figured it out, Pakistan has to get militarily downgraded before you can even think about taking on China. Any fool can see this and expects the Indians to undermine Pakistan at their earliest convenience.

 

[Titanium100]

Anything to distract people from thier fascism.

People nowadays only think local and forgetting their is foreign policy also

 

[Burger_King]

I had written a post before on risk of nuclear power going bankrupt.

There is a precedence for this development when Russia defaulted in late 90s. Acting on gora advice, and with disastrous consequences, Russia implemented economic shock therapy post fall of communist government. Yeltsin, who was a slightly better version of Zardari, pretty much let NATO achieve all its goals in Eastern Europe while Russia was being hallowed from inside due to misgovernment by Yeltsin's government. Russian security apparatus, recognizing the folly of trusting a gora tool, got their man to take control after the death of Yeltsin. In early years Putin tried to get in the gora good books but that did not work out because goras only want kutaas which Putin did not want to be. So began the slow rupture whose consequences we see today. Russia also got lucky because China entered GATT in early 2000s which started commodity super-cycle which enabled Russia to regain financial strength.

Goras have implemented same strategy in Pak that they did in Russia in early 90s. Goras never wanted a nuclear Pak and they have worked to bring Pakistan to verge of default after which Pak has no choice but to goras with cap in hand. Pak needs around USD20bn p.a. just to import oil. Post default, no entity will lend Pak any money so government will have to play ball with goras if they want to avoid Pak turning into Somalia or Sudan. Thanks to 5000 visas handed out to CIA by Zardari, Pak security is already compromised. Bankruptcy will result in coup de grace. Enjoy your last days of freedom because I dont see Pakistani Putin on the horizon.