Pakistan is America's front line ally in killing Afghan Muslims,Lt.Gen Shahid Aziz

[Jaanbaz]

So lay down your arms and become Somalia, what a stupid General, I hope this old generation of arrogant and confused Generals are replaced by more nationalistic Generals who care more about Pakistan then some Afghans.

I've one single question..How come Pakistan always finds themselves as cannon fodder??Be it USA,KSA or China..or some other countries where they sent their army to fight other's war,how cheap it is to send army to fight other's war?Is it profitable?Doesn't look like it.

What would it take for Indians to mind their own business?

 

[Apprentice]

Love for one's homeland is no bad thing.It is allowed in Islam

However Islam does not permit that form of nationalism where one looks down upon others..


A word of advice for all the Afghan haters.

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

I disagree with your thinking. I believe knowingly targeting a militant when he/she is surrounded by civilians is morally questionable --- but "right" and "wrong" are relative and are matters of faith and/or legality, which differ from person to person and country to country. So let's agree to disagree

International Law generally says that a military target can be attacked any place / any time.
Precense of Civilians does not in itself protect a military target.
There is however the requirement of proportionality.
If you have a single sniper firing from a football arena with 40,000 civilians,
It is not OK to level the arena.

IF you have a sniper shooting from a normal,house, then certainly a tank can fire on the house.

 

[somebozo]

And these Afghan Muslims are coming to FATA with olive branch in hands correct? Surprised to see how these delusional idiots can climb the rank of armed forces??

They refuse to disarm, they refuse to honor their agreements of self governance..and they have used their "elaqa ghair" to harbor every kind of crook, criminal and terrorist..which has set the country into flames..their so called tribal areas in FATA and across the border in Afghanistan needs some heavy bombing..

 

[Apprentice]

Can people answer a very basic question...


Is it true that the Pak Army has been killing its own citizens in FATA??

We need to come clear on this.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Lakh di lanat on him for calling those that scum TTP his bachay. Koi is BC sai poocho jou hamaray bachay APS mai shaheed kiay is kai bachon (TTP) nai wo kia amreeka sai import karai thay?

 

[Signalian]

Clearly no true Muslim. No true Muslim would do such a thing.

whats your back ground, just a teacher? i didnt find any on your profile so im asking u here before i reply your post.

 

[T-Rex]

That shows how divided even the Officer Corps of Pakistan Army is when it comes to the war against TTP, this general can be described as soft compared to the hardcore supporter of TTP General Hamid Gul. There many more ex-generals which dont support the Role of Pakistan Army against TTP.

Here one more blast from the past !

Gen. Shahid Aziz Exposes The Truth About Kargil War And Pervez Musharraf's Blatant Lies


In this program Islamabad Tonight (1st February 2013) Gen. Shahid Aziz, who was Director General (Analysis) of ISI at the time of Kargil War exposes Pervez Musharraf's short-sighted strategy of Kargil War, how Pakistan lost badly, how it didn't even claim the bodies of its soldiers and also manipulative attitude of Pervez Musharraf during the War On Terror post 9/11. Very interesting discussion. The video is full with no edits.

From where have you got the idea that Hamid Gul supports TTP? Indian media is not at all credible source for this kind of information.

 

[Apprentice]

Lakh di lanat on him for calling those that scum TTP his bachay. Koi is BC sai poocho jou hamaray bachay APS mai shaheed kiay is kai bachon (TTP) nai wo kia amreeka sai import karai thay?

He was calling waziristan's innocent children 'his bachay'....you know...the innocent pashtun children in waziristan killed by the Pakistani army (according to him)

 

[Joe Shearer]

whats your back ground, just a teacher? i didnt find any on your profile so im asking u here before i reply your post.

Business manager, then teacher, earlier a student of history. Now planning to re-enter industry.

Feel free to vent your true views on the subject. Won't be a problem.

 

[Signalian]

Business manager, then teacher, earlier a student of history. Now planning to re-enter industry.

Feel free to vent your true views on the subject. Won't be a problem.

Indian muslims in IA would be or atleast consider themselves true muslims.
Pakistani soldiers are or atleast consider themselves true muslims too.

As per my understanding of your statement (No true Muslim would do such a thing), means a true muslim wouldnt kill another true muslim?

what would happen between IA and PA muslim soldiers in your thinking.

 

[Inception-06]

Good enough reason to bomb millions of Afghan civilians to oblivion eh ?

we are not bombing them, they are bombed by 55 other Nations called NATO and ISAF, take care of your posts and anger !

pakistan army needs stalin style cleanup..

not only cleanup but also such a propaganda machine !

From where have you got the idea that Hamid Gul supports TTP? Indian media is not at all credible source for this kind of information.

##Its not a fact just my assumption !

 

[HAIDER]

Allah forgive us.
I guess the history does not begin AFTER Pakistan started hosting Afghan refugees.
How long will we keep on repeating our side of the story ?
Here is what Lt.Gen Shahid Aziz has to say regarding Pakistan's blunders w.r.t Afghanistan.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=874069666071310&id=100004048537108


p.s I think it would be shameful if we start hurling insults at the General for coming out clean instead of introspecting what Pak Army has been doing.

Why they start talking once they leave the army. Enjoying all privileges and once retired, allah ki yaad ati ha....joke. This guy enjoyed all benefits. If I am not wrong , he can leave the army if he is not agree with command. But he retired.

 

[R Wing]

International Law generally says that a military target can be attacked any place / any time.
Precense of Civilians does not in itself protect a military target.
There is however the requirement of proportionality.
If you have a single sniper firing from a football arena with 40,000 civilians,
It is not OK to level the arena.

IF you have a sniper shooting from a normal,house, then certainly a tank can fire on the house.

Yes, that's the general definition --- but you missed my point. I was simply saying that right/wrong is a function not only of international law but also one's personal belief / ethical system. If, in a democracy, the majority votes that it's okay to rape women, will you personally be okay with it? My point is simply that something "legal" doesn't have to be "right."

If you think it's acceptable to level a house with civilians because there's a terrorist inside, you are fully entitled to that view and I am not challenging your ethical system. I am just saying that mine is slightly different.

 

[litman]

when such people are in power and in the position to do something they bow down in front of their superiors and enjoy the privileges and when the retire they become muslims and pakistanis.