Pakistan in talks with US to procure latest F-16 jets: Air chief

[The Eagle]

Stupid politicians building Pakistan's case , for USA ?
that's I call the super fooling joke , we Pakistanis keep living into ?
Where Pakistan was under musharaf , still 50 times better defence wise , economily .
He made some strategic decesions , which later came to hunt him ?
& th deadliest was to keep OBL in his custody , while G.W BUSH doing whatever musharaf wanted too?
But in that procces musharaf failed to realize that , america not only been run by its president ?
He should have took OBL out , killed him in front of whole world , instead of keeping that SOB , as his security asset ?
Which was planned later , & his most trusted man kiyani gave up for just a extention & zardari went in rampage of his choices ?
Political Civilian rule is just a croupt joke kept played by stupid politicians who sell Pakistan , whatever way they can ?
So please for god sake , don't tell us their super deeds what they done to our country ?
Hillray sorry came , after thousands of calls & letters thrown to her by our politicians begging her diplomaticly to save their croupt political govt ?
Its not called apology , its more a diplomatic move to push , WOT in Afghanistan ?


With that mind set , I'm sure they will be flying F-16 block 99 in 2050 & it will make them as living joke ?

If the deal stalled or no progress anymore then I will take it like a blessing so the mindset of strategists may change and will think out of the box for other options as well. Hopefully there will be no sorrow of no more 16s.

 

[batmannow]

If the deal stalled or no progress anymore then I will take it like a blessing so the mindset of strategists may change and will think out of the box for other options as well. Hopefully there will be no sorrow of no more 16s.

time & history has shown us , our strategists never go out of their deep dark well ?
kargill is there , look what was their plans then with the dam F-16s ?
they never preempted the use of air force ?

 

[PAK Wolverine 3:)]

We must replace the old Mirage and F7 Fleet with JF 17's and then think about going for other options and in my opinion , the only trust worthy friends of our's are Chinese so we should approach them for the options we have , J16 will meet our needs as far as I have studied about it a little and is superior to SU 30 MKI at some places and carries a handsome load of Armament as well, so my point is go for what is available for us. get it?

 

[barbarosa]

There is no better aircraft of single engine more than F 16.

 

[CHI RULES]

Arab israelli war ????
Are you serious about it , with all the dam tech in their pockets , all the military support from US & UK they are still too tiny to even think of ? Why ?
Sorry to disagree with your one sided POV that Arab Israeli air war can be push as American or western technological air force milestone ?
No way ,, even if we put up Israeli air force in today's war scene then with out US or western support its just next to nothing against combine Arabian air force ?
Just take out the western support Israel gets , then you can't find that tiny thing called israel on the map of planet
Earth ?
Russia is still there , facing all odds of all the combine so called western allied military high tech , with its own technology is the bench mark instead we should think off ?
F -16s are made as the symbol of US + WESTERN happiness towards Pakistan , & if that's not on the table of our stupid , croupt , & some how damocrazy lovin , berucrats then that means all of their dam families living & dinning in the west are on the edge ?

That's the only reason ,, why we are keep getting F-16s decads after decades ?
Our croupt politicians & our croupt berucrats made it the gold mine , which they keep living on & on ?
F- 16s were good in their times , but that era has been ended a long way back ?
& the worst reason Pakistanis been made fool , is having a new platform & its integration in to PAF ?
They often , not tell the truth that when first we brought F- 16s ,, the required training was too long then , what our pilots cutted it short , with their abilities ?
Any new platform can be adjusted at any time of peace ,, its not a dam rocket science ?

Dear Sir, wit due respect I still have different opinion than u as many pros on this forum still have rated F16 higher than other jets like Mr Windjammer who is perhaps retired from PAF, so we should give some worth to them due to their expertise. Further on the same forum u may get recent pics of IAF strikes within Syria despite installation of S300, S400 and other SAMS of Russian origin.

To Arabs I can't call anything as they are getting much humiliation against Houtis. This has happened due to their own malpractices. In KSA army most of high ranks are given to Royals due to their family links and not due to Military capabilities. I still stand firmly on my stance that even with latest jets they are useless against Israel.
Israel is producing most latest ammos themselves unlike Arabs. Even Iran with it's 70's jets may prove to be serious challenge for them.
For PAF it is much wiser to keep two to three types of jets and they should not rely on single jet by any supplier.

 

[denel]

just focus on jf-17 and actively look for 2nd hand f-16s

 

[princefaisal]

Any confirmation for this news....

US CONGRESS BLOCKS POSSIBLE F 16 SALE TO PAKISTAN
by defenceupdate · January 11, 2016

As expected the US Congress blocked the Pakistani proposal of possible sale of modern F 16 Blk 52 Fighter jets, associated equipment’s and missile systems. The Democratic American government agreed the Pakistani proposal of foreign military sales program to sell the F 16 C/D to Pakistan, However the congress who dominated by Republicans blocked the government proposal.

There is one more way to deliver those fighter jets to Pakistan, that’s The democratic president use his VETO power to bypass the Congress decision. Obama used his VETO power many times which makes many questions about Obama’s over action bypassing the Congress decisions. The Republicans are mostly pro Indian and continuously slammed US friendly approach towards Pakistan.

However this time as a surprise, A Democratic senator, who pushed the stall button when the congress discussed about the possible sale of F 16 to Pakistan. The deal further blocked by majority of Republican senators. There were very few or zero American senators defended the Proposed deal. The Pathankot attack also the major reason behind the block, since the US intelligence already alerted the Indians about possible terror attack close to India Pakistan border.

 

[batmannow]

Dear Sir, wit due respect I still have different opinion than u as many pros on this forum still have rated F16 higher than other jets like Mr Windjammer who is perhaps retired from PAF, so we should give some worth to them due to their expertise. Further on the same forum u may get recent pics of IAF strikes within Syria despite installation of S300, S400 and other SAMS of Russian origin.

To Arabs I can't call anything as they are getting much humiliation against Houtis. This has happened due to their own malpractices. In KSA army most of high ranks are given to Royals due to their family links and not due to Military capabilities. I still stand firmly on my stance that even with latest jets they are useless against Israel.
Israel is producing most latest ammos themselves unlike Arabs. Even Iran with it's 70's jets may prove to be serious challenge for them.
For PAF it is much wiser to keep two to three types of jets and they should not rely on single jet by any supplier.

Just correct your self a bit , IAF airstrikes been stopped since the installation of timruov s*400 s in sirya , & it still depend on the operator of the s *300 /400 systems ?
if he want to engage which & what fighter jet ?
So its not that , IDAF been targeted & they came back alive ?
I.agree with most of your post ,specilly the end part .
& I think , our honored warrior Mr , windjammer sir , would have thought differently if , he have been given a Russian fighter jet to fly , for more then 30 years ?

 

[barbarosa]

No on the price of acceptance of the responsibility of pathankot accident or to sent PAK Army to Syria and not to support Saudi instead of Iran. If yes we have no need.

 

[batmannow]

No on the price of acceptance of the responsibility of pathankot accident or to sent PAK Army to Syria and not to support Saudi instead of Iran. If yes we have no need.

We have better options , in our hands from S*35s , J*16s , J*20s we can form a new growing & stronger alliance in ME under Putin these days?
Specially when Americans has lost KSA & IRAN has no trust in them ?