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Pakistan in talks for J-10 & have ordered KJ 2000?

Which Fighter is best for Pakistan to counter Rafale J-10B/C or J-11D ?

  • J-10B/C

    Votes: 17 42.5%
  • J-11D

    Votes: 23 57.5%

  • Total voters
    40
  • Poll closed .
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The J-5/6/7 were all license-built aircraft. So were the J-11A (not the J-11B), under the conditions that Beijing would not export any of these airframes. However, SAC took a drastically different turn and instead developed it own fighter using the fuselage of the Flanker line. Since the J-11B still uses a Flanker-derived fuselage, exporting it would damage relations with Moscow, something that Bejing hopes to avoid.

And as exemplified in the earlier post, the sale of the J-5/J-6/J-7 imply that Russia had allowed the sale of these jets, meaning that although there is a lack of concrete evidence that they did, the sales themselves certainly speak for themselves given the context of the situation at that time.

All assumptions no evidence in your posts. License production don't mean you sell it to others mostly OEMs don't allow that, just look at IAF's Su-30MKIs they don't sell them to others.
 
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J-10 is too big and can be easily out maneuvered.

I disagree, J10 is a very good aircraft.

Check out the size comparison.

Lchengdu-j10-vs-f-16.jpg
Lchengdu-j10-vs-f-15.jpg
Lchengdu-j10-vs-f-18super.jpg


PD should good for J10 as they are very good option to replace the old dying fleet of Mirage. Since Pakistan will not get anything from US & thanks to Indian influence KJ2000 is a very good option as well.
 
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Somewhere I heard that Navy is just taking $700 m from Defence budget, Is it True?


The Navy's allocated budget for next year will be multi-billion due to purchase of a few frigates and subs. As the economy improves further and the Gawader port starts to be operational, the PN will become the core focus along with its aviation units and will see tremendous growth.
 
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I disagree, J10 is a very good aircraft.

Check out the size comparison.

Lchengdu-j10-vs-f-16.jpg
Lchengdu-j10-vs-f-15.jpg
Lchengdu-j10-vs-f-18super.jpg


PD should good for J10 as they are very good option to replace the old dying fleet of Mirage. Since Pakistan will not get anything from US & thanks to Indian influence KJ2000 is a very good option as well.
As a matter of fact I think KJ2000 is not ideal, even China will never exports this AWACS. The chassis that Il-76 is contracted by Russia. Even China is in scarcity of this middle platform. More over, Pakistan need not this turbo jet AWACS because the sovereignty scale is not colossal. Air surveillance can be perfectly done by ZDK-03:)
 
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J-10B has been turned down now and there is a good possibility that PAF is looking for US made new 32-52 F-16s Block-52s + Additional used F-16s Block-15s from its users.
 
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The Navy's allocated budget for next year will be multi-billion due to purchase of a few frigates and subs. As the economy improves further and the Gawader port starts to be operational, the PN will become the core focus along with its aviation units and will see tremendous growth.
Multi-Billion dollars for next year is for purchasing not for annual budget..
from the creation of Pakistan Navy was not considered as the main force and was treated as the second class by establishment.. During the 1960's PN tries to get air arm but was rejected and said that PAF is able to do that do..
but after 1971 war when indian navy destroy port and blocked the pakistan's sea routes. establishment get some sense to give air-arm to Navy but that what also the limited air-arm..
 
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Multi-Billion dollars for next year is for purchasing not for annual budget..
from the creation of Pakistan Navy was not considered as the main force and was treated as the second class by establishment.. During the 1960's PN tries to get air arm but was rejected and said that PAF is able to do that do..
but after 1971 war when indian navy destroy port and blocked the pakistan's sea routes. establishment get some sense to give air-arm to Navy but that what also the limited air-arm..
We have limited approach and budget. We have less sea shore to cover compared to India. More over we only want our navy to be strong enough to save our shores from Indian navy. After the delivery of 8 new subs navy will also play a plus role of second strike capability. nothing else.
and yes for countering Indian air craft carriers we need to arm our navy with air crafts too.
Since we don't have any air craft carrier so we don't need naval variants of air crafts. Could be Blk 2 Jf17 or J10b. and 36 of them atleast for our poor navy...................
 
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