Pakistan hopes to revive its naval modernization program

[rockstar08]

Unfortunately they cost approx US$330m+ per ship

that ship worth it bro
its a Destroyer ..

 

[Khafee]

that ship worth it bro
its a Destroyer ..

It is very formidable, no doubt!!

 

[Atlanticore]

On 22 March 2007 Jane's Navy International reported that Pakistan had asked the US to supply it with six Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates to augment its fleet of surface ships, according to the chief of Pakistan's naval staff Admiral Muhammad Afzal Tahir but we only received one former USS McInerney (FFG-8) with refurbishment. What about the rest of the ships? Is there Any new development regarding this decades old deal ?

 

[Khafee]

On 22 March 2007 Jane's Navy International reported that Pakistan had asked the US to supply it with six Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigates to augment its fleet of surface ships, according to the chief of Pakistan's naval staff Admiral Muhammad Afzal Tahir but we only received one former USS McInerney (FFG-8) with refurbishment. What about the rest of the ships? Is there Any new development regarding this decades old deal ?

All denied, and given to other countries.

 

[Atlanticore]

All denied, and given to other countries.

Ah Yankies

 

[MastanKhan]

@Khafee

You know how to get me going---but then I have nothing else to do nowadays----.

As you have read my posts---I have written many a times over the years that the 8 submarine deal at one time is a very bad deal---technically---because all the funds would be stuck up in wastage for 12--15 years.

Subs are very important-----but so is the surface fleet----. The deal should have been split with subs and surface fleet if not the aircraft---.

Pakistan must have type 054D type frigates with anti ballistic missile missiles in the 7500 tonnage---atleast 2 of them with AEGIS type capabilities----plus at least 4 or more type F22 upgraded frigates in the 4000 tonnage and agina with anti ballistic and anti air missile missiles----.

In layman's term---they should be able to intercept ballistic missiles and other kinds of missiles as well.

So---pakistani defense procurement wasted another opportunity to procure the right equipment.

The submarine are dead meat with frigate protecting them---the submarines are dead meat without---aircraft protecting them in the arena we want to use them in---the arabian sea and its viccinity---.

We needed a total package deal---and I beleive that in this arena---submarines only---they are dead meat.

 

[HRK]

because of its size and small RCS ...
but Azmat is better in a sense that its displacement is much more than type 22 ..
and if PN has already started a Project than why buying another type FAC?
why not spend the money on raising another Air Arm ..

type-022

Azmat class

Azmat can carry 8 Anti-ship missile while type-022 can carry 4

two different boats two Different roles ... read a bit more about type-022 Houbei class boat in Chinese Navy ....
In Pakistan Navy consider its role as 'non-nuclear Nasr' in Arabian sea (shoot & scoot missions)

 

[rockstar08]

two different boats two Different roles ... read a bit more about type-022 Houbei class boat in Chinese Navy ....
In Pakistan Navy consider its role as 'non-nuclear Nasr' in Arabian sea (shoot & scoot missions)

Moderator Sahab, Jaan ki amaan paon tu Kuch araz karun ??

 

[HRK]

Moderator Sahab, Jaan ki amaan paon tu Kuch araz karun ??

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Arz kiya Jaye .....

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

...........

Arz kiya Jaye .....

Takhliya.

 

[Blue Marlin]

@Khafee

You know how to get me going---but then I have nothing else to do nowadays----.

As you have read my posts---I have written many a times over the years that the 8 submarine deal at one time is a very bad deal---technically---because all the funds would be stuck up in wastage for 12--15 years.

Subs are very important-----but so is the surface fleet----. The deal should have been split with subs and surface fleet if not the aircraft---.

Pakistan must have type 054D type frigates with anti ballistic missile missiles in the 7500 tonnage---atleast 2 of them with AEGIS type capabilities----plus at least 4 or more type F22 upgraded frigates in the 4000 tonnage and agina with anti ballistic and anti air missile missiles----.

In layman's term---they should be able to intercept ballistic missiles and other kinds of missiles as well.

So---pakistani defense procurement wasted another opportunity to procure the right equipment.

The submarine are dead meat with frigate protecting them---the submarines are dead meat without---aircraft protecting them in the arena we want to use them in---the arabian sea and its viccinity---.

We needed a total package deal---and I beleive that in this arena---submarines only---they are dead meat.

type 54d!!! what happened tp the type 54b's and the 54c's? they only just started rolling out the 54a+'s also why not throw in the type 94 ssbn along with type 93ssk for good measure

 

[rockstar08]

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Arz kiya Jaye .....

Oye mai darta warta kisi se nai hun ... Mushi tone ...
waise Type 22 and Azmat class FAC ke role mai kia difference hai bhai ?

Takhliya.

tum kia us ko Akbaray ka londa samajh rahe ho ?

 

[thrilainmanila]

I know money is a key issue, but buying the F22 frigate seems like a complete waste of time, the 054 is more potent, the current F-22frigates can only fire the C802 anti shipe missile which is subsonic and can be shotdown easily. the bagladesh navy acquire the 054 and its more potent then the chai walala F22.

I know money is a key issue, but buying the F22 frigate seems like a complete waste of time, the 054 is more potent, the current F-22frigates can only fire the C802 anti shipe missile which is subsonic and can be shotdown easily. the bagladesh navy acquire the 054 and its more potent then the chai walala F22.

 

[wiseone2]

@Khafee

You know how to get me going---but then I have nothing else to do nowadays----.

As you have read my posts---I have written many a times over the years that the 8 submarine deal at one time is a very bad deal---technically---because all the funds would be stuck up in wastage for 12--15 years.

Subs are very important-----but so is the surface fleet----. The deal should have been split with subs and surface fleet if not the aircraft---.

Pakistan must have type 054D type frigates with anti ballistic missile missiles in the 7500 tonnage---atleast 2 of them with AEGIS type capabilities----plus at least 4 or more type F22 upgraded frigates in the 4000 tonnage and agina with anti ballistic and anti air missile missiles----.

In layman's term---they should be able to intercept ballistic missiles and other kinds of missiles as well.

So---pakistani defense procurement wasted another opportunity to procure the right equipment.

The submarine are dead meat with frigate protecting them---the submarines are dead meat without---aircraft protecting them in the arena we want to use them in---the arabian sea and its viccinity---.

We needed a total package deal---and I beleive that in this arena---submarines only---they are dead meat.

do you have any idea how much these cost ??
With $1 billion budget pakistani navy can maintain 6-8 capable submarines as a sea denial force. if you want to augment the submarine fleet get two squadrons of Su-27/Su-35 or JF-17s. Investing in surface ships is a waste of time

 

[HRK]

waise Type 22 and

these are more suited to shoot & scoot missions, short notice surprise attack & coastal defence its more of a specific role ships.

Azmat class FAC ke role mai kia difference hai bhai ?

Generally speaking Azmat class is more suited to medium-endurance patrols, counter piracy, and other general littoral duties you can say it a bit more of multi role ship