Pakistan hopes to revive its naval modernization program

[Hurshid Celebi]

@DESERT FIGHTER

Greetings

and all the best of TSK

gnkur@tsk.tr

Feel free to send all your questions with real mail adress

 

[The Huskar]

We don't need a massive navy,,, we need a small but technologically superior navy,,, Our coastal area is much smaller,,, our key trade routes are on west i.e. away from our enemies,,, however, three important considerations are required,,we

1.) Very strong air defense
2.) Very strong naval air offence
3.) Keep a strong eyes on western naval bases of our enemy,,, Capabilities on western side and assets they have...

Navy's key strategy should be to defend against Naval blockade which does not require no.s but require a good offensive defensive mix,,, and very stealthy submarine mix capable to withstand detection even from P8 aircraft,,, if S-20 are capable of this and our frigates have strong SAMs capable defense then we are way better ...

Remember that Indian Oil routes are on west i.e. towards Pakistan,,, Pakistan can pose threat to Indian oil ships,,,

Now what we have to do is to make diplomatic relationships with other countries so strong that no other nation provide port facilities to indian navy in wartime,,, furthermore, Oil blockade of India can be implemented from western sides both using diplomatic and offensive measures ...

Dude...lay off the Kush...alright

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Shia and Sunni

I never was aware of that BS hostility before. Before 1980's in Turkey, we had peace.

My family is Caucasian and Balkan Ottoman origin,

nevertheless an grandpa of us married a Kurdish woman from Tunceli - ( Called Dersim) ,
I loved her so much, wise grey haired and clean type comparable to " North American Shamans".

She was wise a Anatolia Muslim believing as an Otttoman Bektashi

( as whole Balkan and US Muslims do an our Sultans were 80% ) but a brilliant person. RIP

Only stupidity and imperial powers can divide us

Sükran brothers and sisters of a grand Nation

Dude...lay off the Kush...alright

Indians support PKK ? Why ? Complex vs pakistan. cause of weakness of man power ?

 

[Paksanity]

Lets join PAK, TR , KSA

Symbiosis of money , craftsmanship and money

Include Egypt, UAE, Qatar and possibly Indonesia and Malaysia. In fact such consortium will have the the finances, sufficient pool of expert manpower and installed manufacturing capacity to give a good start. If serious and sustained investment is done into R&D for sufficient time, defence needs of partner countries can be largely met. Throw in cooperation and hired manpower from tier-2 defence manufacturers e.g. South Africa, Ukraine, Brazil and Sweden perhaps and you have a good start. As a follow up link technology universities of partner countries and establish a joint fund to finance research at university level. Give internship to bright students in defence projects and these young men will start unlocking one technology after the other. The technology we are mostly denied access to.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Include Egypt, UAE, Qatar and possibly Indonesia and Malaysia. In fact such consortium will have the the finances, sufficient pool of expert manpower and installed manufacturing capacity to give a good start. If serious and sustained investment is done into R&D for sufficient time, defence needs of partner countries can be largely met. Throw in cooperation and hired manpower from tier-2 defence manufacturers e.g. South Africa, Ukraine, Brazil and Sweden perhaps and you have a good start. As a follow up link technology universities of partner countries and establish a joint fund to finance research at university level. Give internship to bright students in defence projects and these young men will start unlocking one technology after the other. The technology we are mostly denied access to.

None of those countries have a significant industrial base nor big defence budgets..

Although UAE has a lot of $$ to fund projects.

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

industrial base

We have brilliant scientists, but we need the hardware.
We are producing and also already developing. Long live PAK and TC brotherhood.

@DESERT FIGHTER

Bro. We here down the pants.
Could you also write about PAK brothers R&D . IF POSSIBLE ?

 

[Paksanity]

None of those countries have a significant industrial base nor big defence budgets..

Although UAE has a lot of $$ to fund projects.

Hence they need to combine forces. Turkey and Malaysia have substantial industrial base. Pakistan, Egypt and Indonesia have smaller base but when you combine all, it makes for something. For a large project suppliers will contribute from all partner countries hence large base is not required. Play each country by its strength. For example Pakistan is ahead in missile technology, nuclear technology and aviation. Turkey is good in aerospace, electronics, armour production and naval systems etc. In the end, it makes sense to join forces when you can't develop entire program in house. Costs can be shared. In the end it's a win win and and practical solution.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

We have brilliant scientists, but we need the hardware.
We are producing and also already developing. Long live PAK and TC brotherhood.

@DESERT FIGHTER

Bro. We here down the pants.
Could you also write about PAK brothers R&D . IF POSSIBLE ?

On Turkish forum? Would love too.

Hence they need to combine forces. Turkey and Malaysia have substantial industrial base. Pakistan, Egypt and Indonesia have smaller base but when you combine all, it makes for something. For a large project suppliers will contribute from all partner countries hence large base is not required. Play each country by its strength. For example Pakistan is ahead in missile technology, nuclear technology and aviation. Turkey is good in aerospace, electronics, armour production and naval systems etc. In the end, it makes sense to join forces when you can't develop entire program in house. Costs can be shared. In the end it's a win win and and practical solution.

Egypt produces nothing except a few APCs (they assemble Abrams which are shipped from US).... Indonesians produce APCs and CN planes (with a European firm) and small boats and small arms.. Malaysia (again nothing)..

In Islamic world it is only Pak & Turkey which actually produce real hardware .. Tanks,APCs,Gunships,C41,CMs,BM,Jets,trainers,recon planes,UAVs,UCAVs etc..


Pakistans only big issue is $$.. With Pak & Turkeys industrial base and gulf $$$... That would be ideal!

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

On Turkish forum? Would love too.

See you , Allaha Emanet ol Bro

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

See you , Allaha Emanet ol Bro

I checked out TSK ... It's in Turkish .. Which I can't read .. Except few words ..

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

It's in Turkish

You are bit wrong , its in English and all official no secret or mystery

Turkish Armed Forces

gnkur@tsk.tr

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[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well if Turkey can manufacture

Hisar A 15 km
Hisar 0 , 25 km ( to 40 km )

Its only matter of time they will SCALE up the missiles to increase range and flying capacity of the missile.

What I loved about the missiles is such clean launching the missiles have a lovely clean launch with blue flame, beautiful engineering

Giving it 3-4 Years for Turkey to Release High Altitude variants

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

High Altitude

On the road with "I hope" hard kill BM capable
- our target is 2023 100 th .anniversary of Turkish republic founded by Father of our Nation Atatürk Kemal Pasa.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

But considering the recent crisis I am certain , Turkish scientist are trying to come out with Long raneg solution in 2-3 years

 

[Hurshid Celebi]

Long range

Trust Allah CC .

We trust in Allah CC and our Prophet Mohammed SAV and we will success with you together and Japan

Don't let us alone brothers, despite US and Russian pressure, united we are strong