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Okay lets believe what u said above then..the case is what India gonna do if they started marching towards Kashmir or whole of the India after takng over Afghanistan?:woot::cheesy: cuz accordng to my info they r getting ready for that.:woot:
but dont worry we gnna help u guyz...u can take refuge here with us...
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Marching??!!That makes them sound like they are some kinda standing army.In reality they are nothing but cowards who strike at disguise in the open markets.The last time they tried some marching,they were pounded to death by the American jets back in 2001.The same thing happened in Kargil in 1999,when they were exterminated by the Indian jets.

And did you actually forget that there is country named Pakistan between Afghanistan and India???and that country is engaged in war with the taliban???What will happen to that country if your Taliban starts marching from Afghanistan???

Why do I feel like I am talking to a Taliban fanboy???Are you a Pakistani???
 
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Hey guyz ...i guess u wanna loose all the India then...its sad then..:woot::cheesy:
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Its funny to note the attitude.

Your country lost three wars and almost half of the land territory with this war mongering attitude,helped creating the taliban which is now turned against the creator itself,the economy is at mess,war has come to your home now,and in spite of being worried about the more pressing needs,you cannot care less about Kashmir???

What have you achieved in relation to Kashmir after independence,till now???apart from earning bad International reputation????
 
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Hey guyz ...i guess u wanna loose all the India then...its sad then, cuz those brotherz not gonna settle for less than whole India and Im trying to help u guyz out before they start their march.Whoever comes in their path will be taken over.:woot::cheesy:
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Well, Leave Mental Masturbation Buddy,.... the Outcome of wars Has Been Proved to You Several times Previously and Even By dividing You Into 2 Pieces During 1971..... Now Again if you are Continuing the "All Is Well Attitude" then We got No problemo In Another Demo :D
 
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I dont knw when ll unstan in todays senario...."Quality Matters Than Quantity"..... Perhaps even Few NB's ll be enogh to gut this entire world... Nuclear Giants r now Minimizing thr own pile build up.... wid a fear f never knowin when it cud ignite inside :rofl:n burst thr own Bum:yahoo:............. :cheers:
 
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NEW DELHI: Pakistan may already have not just more nuclear warheads than India but also almost as much fissile material as its eastern neighbour to assemble an almost equal number of more nukes. These worrying disclosures for India are a part of a report on world nuclear stockpile by top US nuclear experts and researchers Hans M Kristensen and Robert S Norris for the prestigious Bulletin of Atomic Scientists.

Titled `Global Nuclear Weapons Inventories, 1945-2010', the report said Pakistan had already assembled 70-90 nuclear warheads against India's 60-80. Kristensen of the Federation of American Scientists and Norris of National Resources Defense Council also said in the report that Pakistan had produced enough fissile material to manufacture 90 more warheads.

According to the report, India has fissile material to produce between 60 to 105 warheads which is almost the same as Pakistan. Islamabad has till now almost single-handedly blocked any forward movement on a fissile material cut-off treaty in the Conference on Disarmament saying that any ban on fissile material production would freeze the "asymmetry'' between the two countries.

India, on its part, has opposed Pakistan's contention with the understanding that it possesses much more fissile material than its neighbour. However, the report by Norris and Kristensen shows that India and Pakistan are actually almost neck and neck when it comes to possessing fissile material.

While stating that both countries were increasing their stockpiles, the report added that majority of Indian and Pakistani warheads were not "operationally deployed''. The report comes close on the heels of another report by Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) which said Pakistan had 60 warheads and that it could produce 100 more at short notice.

The report estimated that China's nuclear arsenal comprised 240 warheads. It said China's warheads armed not just its old liquid-fuelled missiles but also the solid-fuel missiles which are now being introduced. "China also has a small inventory of air-delivered nuclear bombs. China keeps additional warheads in storage,'' it said.

The report said that as per the US intelligence community, China would increase its number of warheads on long-range ballistic missiles from 50 to well over 100 in the next 15 years. According to the report, China is also building a nuclear triad which will enable it to launch a nuclear strike from ballistic missiles, submarines and airborne strategic bombers and enhance its second strike capability.


Pak has as much fissile material as India: Report - India - The Times of India
 
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NRDC: The Consequences of Nuclear Conflict between India and Pakistan

The Consequences of Nuclear Conflict between India and Pakistan
NRDC's nuclear experts think about the unthinkable, using state-of-the-art nuclear war simulation software to assess the crisis in South Asia.

The months-long military standoff between India and Pakistan intensified several weeks ago when suspected Islamic militants killed more than 30 people at an Indian base in the disputed territory of Kashmir. As U.S. diplomatic pressure to avert war intensifies, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld is going to India and Pakistan this week to discuss with his South Asian counterparts the results of a classified Pentagon study that concludes that a nuclear war between these countries could result in 12 million deaths.

NRDC (Natural Resources Defense Council) has conducted its own analysis of the consequences of nuclear war in South Asia. Prior to this most recent crisis we calculated two nuclear scenarios. The first assumes 10 Hiroshima-sized explosions with no fallout; the second assumes 24 nuclear explosions with significant radioactive fallout. Below is a discussion of the two scenarios in detail and an exploration of several additional issues regarding nuclear war in South Asia.



Indian and Pakistani Nuclear Forces

It is difficult to determine the actual size and composition of India's and Pakistan's nuclear arsenals, but NRDC estimates that both countries have a total of 50 to 75 weapons. Contrary to the conventional wisdom, we believe India has about 30 to 35 nuclear warheads, slightly fewer than Pakistan, which may have as many as 48.

Both countries have fission weapons, similar to the early designs developed by the United States in the late 1940s and early 1950s. NRDC estimates their explosive yields are 5 to 25 kilotons (1 kiloton is equivalent to 1,000 tons of TNT). By comparison, the yield of the weapon the United States exploded over Hiroshima was 15 kilotons, while the bomb exploded over Nagasaki was 21 kilotons. According to a recent NRDC discussion with a senior Pakistani military official, Pakistan's main nuclear weapons are mounted on missiles. India's nuclear weapons are reportedly gravity bombs deployed on fighter aircraft.

NRDC's Nuclear Program initially developed the software used to calculate the consequences of a South Asian nuclear war to examine and analyze the U.S. nuclear war planning process. We combined Department of Energy and Department of Defense computer codes with meteorological and demographic data to model what would happen in various kinds of attacks using different types of weapons. Our June 2001 report, "The U.S. Nuclear War Plan: A Time for Change," is available at NRDC: The U.S. Nuclear War Plan: A Time for Change.



Scenario: 10 Bombs on 10 South Asian Cities

For our first scenario we used casualty data from the Hiroshima bomb to estimate what would happen if bombs exploded over 10 large South Asian cities: five in India and five in Pakistan. (The results were published in "The Risks and Consequences of Nuclear War in South Asia," by NRDC physicist Matthew McKinzie and Princeton scientists Zia Mian, A. H. Nayyar and M. V. Ramana, a chapter in Smitu Kothari and Zia Mian (editors), "Out of the Nuclear Shadow" (Dehli: Lokayan and Rainbow Publishers, 2001).)

The 15-kiloton yield of the Hiroshima weapon is approximately the size of the weapons now in the Indian and Pakistani nuclear arsenals. The deaths and severe injuries experienced at Hiroshima were mainly a function of how far people were from ground zero. Other factors included whether people were in buildings or outdoors, the structural characteristics of the buildings themselves, and the age and health of the victims at the time of the attack. The closer to ground zero, the higher fatality rate. Further away there were fewer fatalities and larger numbers of injuries. The table below summarizes the first nuclear war scenario by superimposing the Hiroshima data onto five Indian and five Pakistan cities with densely concentrated populations.


Estimated nuclear casualties for attacks on 10 large Indian and Pakistani cities
City Name Total Population Within 5 Kilometers of Ground Zero Number of Persons Killed Number of Persons Severely Injured Number of Persons Slightly Injured
India
Bangalore 3,077,937 314,978 175,136 411,336
Bombay 3,143,284 477,713 228,648 476,633
Calcutta 3,520,344 357,202 198,218 466,336
Madras 3,252,628 364,291 196,226 448,948
New Delhi 1,638,744 176,518 94,231 217,853
Total India 14,632,937 1,690,702 892,459 2,021,106
Pakistan
Faisalabad 2,376,478 336,239 174,351 373,967
Islamabad 798,583 154,067 66,744 129,935
Karachi 1,962,458 239,643 126,810 283,290
Lahore 2,682,092 258,139 149,649 354,095
Rawalpindi 1,589,828 183,791 96,846 220,585
Total Pakistan 9,409,439 1,171,879 614,400 1,361,872
India and Pakistan
Total 24,042,376 2,862,581 1,506,859 3,382,978

As in the case of the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, in this scenario the 10 bombs over Indian and Pakistani cities would be exploded in the air, which maximized blast damage and fire but creates no fallout. On August 6, 1945, the United States exploded an untested uranium-235 gun-assembly bomb, nicknamed "Little Boy," 1,900 feet above Hiroshima. The city was home to an estimated 350,000 people; about 140,000 died by the end of the year. Three days later, at 11:02 am, the United States exploded a plutonium implosion bomb nicknamed "Fat Man" 1,650 feet above Nagasaki. About 70,000 of the estimated 270,000 residents died by the end of the year.

Ten Hiroshima-size explosions over 10 major cities in India and Pakistan would kill as many as three to four times more people per bomb than in Japan because of the higher urban densities in Indian and Pakistani cities.



Scenario: 24 Ground Bursts

In January, NRDC calculated the consequences of a much more severe nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan. It first appeared as a sidebar in the January 14, 2002, issue of Newsweek ("A Face-Off with Nuclear Stakes"). This scenario calculated the consequences of 24 nuclear explosions detonated on the ground -- unlike the Hiroshima airburst -- resulting in significant amounts of lethal radioactive fallout.

Exploding a nuclear bomb above the ground does not produce fallout. For example, the United States detonated "Little Boy" weapon above Hiroshima at an altitude of 1,900 feet. At this height, the radioactive particles produced in the explosion were small and light enough to rise into the upper atmosphere, where they were carried by the prevailing winds. Days to weeks later, after the radioactive bomb debris became less "hot," these tiny particles descended to earth as a measurable radioactive residue, but not at levels of contamination that would cause immediate radiation sickness or death.

Unfortunately, it is easier to fuse a nuclear weapon to detonate on impact than it is to detonate it in the air -- and that means fallout. If the nuclear explosion takes place at or near the surface of the earth, the nuclear fireball would gouge out material and mix it with the radioactive bomb debris, producing heavier radioactive particles. These heavier particles would begin to drift back to earth within minutes or hours after the explosion, producing potentially lethal levels of nuclear fallout out to tens or hundreds of kilometers from the ground zero. The precise levels depend on the explosive yield of the weapon and the prevailing winds.

For the second scenario, we calculated the fallout patterns and casualties for a hypothetical nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan in which each country targeted major cities. We chose target cities throughout Pakistan and in northwestern India to take into account the limited range of Pakistani missiles or aircraft. The target cities, listed in the table below, include the capitals of Islamabad and New Dehli, and large cities, such as Karachi and Bombay. In this scenario, we assumed that a dozen, 25-kiloton warheads would be detonated as ground bursts in Pakistan and another dozen in India, producing substantial fallout.

The devastation that would result from fallout would exceed that of blast and fire. NRDC's second scenario would produce far more horrific results than the first scenario because there would be more weapons, higher yields, and extensive fallout. In some large cities, we assumed more than one bomb would be used.


15 Indian and Pakistani cities attacked with 24 nuclear warheads
Country City City Population Number of
Attacking Bombs
Pakistan Islamabad (national capital) 100-250 thousand 1
Pakistan Karachi (provincial capital) > 5 million 3
Pakistan Lahore (provincial capital) 1-5 million 2
Pakistan Peshawar (provincial capital) 0.5-1 million 1
Pakistan Quetta (provincial capital) 250-500 thousand 1
Pakistan Faisalabad 1-5 million 2
Pakistan Hyderabad 0.5-1 million 1
Pakistan Rawalpindi 0.5-1 million 1
India New Dehli (national capital) 250-500 thousand 1
India Bombay (provincial capital) > 5 million 3
India Delhi (provincial capital) > 5 million 3
India Jaipur (provincial capital) 1-5 million 2
India Bhopal (provincial capital) 1-5 million 1
India Ahmadabad 1-5 million 1
India Pune 1-5 million 1

NRDC calculated that 22.1 million people in India and Pakistan would be exposed to lethal radiation doses of 600 rem or more in the first two days after the attack. Another 8 million people would receive a radiation dose of 100 to 600 rem, causing severe radiation sickness and potentially death, especially for the very young, old or infirm. NRDC calculates that as many as 30 million people would be threatened by the fallout from the attack, roughly divided between the two countries.

Besides fallout, blast and fire would cause substantial destruction within roughly a mile-and-a-half of the bomb craters. NRDC estimates that 8.1 million people live within this radius of destruction.

Most Indians (99 percent of the population) and Pakistanis (93 percent of the population) would survive the second scenario. Their respective military forces would be still be intact to continue and even escalate the conflict.



Thinking the Unthinkable

After India and Pakistan held nuclear tests in 1998, experts have debated whether their nuclear weapons contribute to stability in South Asia. Experts who argue that the nuclear standoff promotes stability have pointed to the U.S.-Soviet Union Cold War as an example of how deterrence ensures military restraint.

NRDC disagrees. There are major differences between the Cold War and the current South Asian crisis. Unlike the U.S.-Soviet experience, these two countries have a deep-seated hatred of one another and have fought three wars since both countries became independent. At least part of the current crisis may be seen as Hindu nationalism versus Muslim fundamentalism.

A second difference is India and Pakistan's nuclear arsenals are much smaller than those of the United States and Russia. The U.S. and Russian arsenals truly represent the capability to destroy each other's society beyond recovery. While the two South Asia scenarios we have described produce unimaginable loss of life and destruction, they do not reach the level of "mutual assured destruction" that stood as the ultimate deterrent during the Cold War.

The two South Asian scenarios assume nuclear attacks against cities. During the early Cold War period this was the deterrent strategy of the United States and the Soviet Union. But as both countries introduced technological improvements into their arsenals, they pursued other strategies, targeting each other's nuclear forces, conventional military forces, industry and leadership. India and Pakistan may include these types of targets in their current military planning. For example, attacking large dams with nuclear weapons could result in massive disruption, economic consequences and casualties. Concentrations of military forces and facilities may provide tempting targets as well.
 
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for people like you, this world is a little more than BOLLYWOOD fantasy:P

SLV failure

Disappointment. India's GSLV D3 mission fails

Mighty Arjun

orbat.com/site/weapons/2004/arjun.pdf

Missile failure

Asia Times Online :: South Asia news - India exposed by missile failure

thedawn.com.pk/2010/03/15/failure-delhis-anti-missile-system-fails/

There is no such thing as Gauri 3 or Tipu. Only Shaheen 3 is ready and will be tested when needed. We do not have a habit of boasting and show off unlike you people.

Please let me know if you want more....:)

I cant resist my self to laugh
Talking about SLV and showing GSLV mk2 ...
Mighty Arjun ............... You read that documents ??? 2004 :lol::lol:
Anti missile failure 2006 report ........... AAD, Akash....

"Only Shaheen 3 is ready and will be tested when needed."

What a joke .... tested when needed ????:sniper::sniper:
please dnt embarrass your self :hitwall:



I think you forgate one thing last week your army announce that they are going to test Gauri missile ..... what happens another failure ... right approach to make country man fool dnt show failure ............... :lol:
 
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I cant resist my self to laugh
Talking about SLV and showing GSLV mk2 ...
Mighty Arjun ............... You read that documents ??? 2004 :lol::lol:
Anti missile failure 2006 report ........... AAD, Akash.



atleast we are not like u ur nuclear scientists are found dead near sm gutter ur nuclear waste gets dumped in public garbage places ... diseases are sprouting in ur villages that are near nuclear reactors and still thats a shining india .... shining due to atomic radiation
 
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so when pakistan is going to attack on india...the nuclear war is only measure to know whose nuclear is better than other...so attack now..
BETA everyone know what is the value of pak in the front of india..



Dear 2nd Leutenent

How are you...
If india has some value infront of pakistan then why pakistan is still standing after 4 wars...
You were not able to occupy only lahore in 1965 then ab kya patt lu gay my dear betay.

Pakistan Zindabad:pakistan::pdf:
 
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Dear 2nd Leutenent

How are you...
If india has some value infront of pakistan then why pakistan is still standing after 4 wars...
You were not able to occupy only lahore in 1965 then ab kya patt lu gay my dear betay.

Pakistan Zindabad:pakistan::pdf:

:pakistan::pakistan::yahoo::yahoo:chaaaaaaaaaa gye hain ap
 
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I cant resist my self to laugh
Talking about SLV and showing GSLV mk2 ...
Mighty Arjun ............... You read that documents ??? 2004 :lol::lol:
Anti missile failure 2006 report ........... AAD, Akash.



atleast we are not like u ur nuclear scientists are found dead near sm gutter ur nuclear waste gets dumped in public garbage places ... diseases are sprouting in ur villages that are near nuclear reactors and still thats a shining india .... shining due to atomic radiation


Immature or what???

One Pakistani president was killed in a plane crash.Going by your logic I should hereby declare entire Pakistan to be unsafe for travelling.The very first Pakistani Prime Minister was shot dead during a public meeting,so shall I reckon that the whole of Pakistan is unsafe place to stay????

Regarding nuclear waste getting dumped,you better check the news again.It was actually Cobalt-60 from an X-Ray machine,and appropriate actions were taken against it.A rouge scientist of Pakistani origin dumped nuclear garbage all over the World and made the World a lot more unsafe.What do you think about that???

Finally,India is shining because of its economic progress..Feeling jealous about it won't solve your problem....
 
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Immature or what???

One Pakistani president was killed in a plane crash.Going by your logic I should hereby declare entire Pakistan to be unsafe for travelling.The very first Pakistani Prime Minister was shot dead during a public meeting,so shall I reckon that the whole of Pakistan is unsafe place to stay????

Regarding nuclear waste getting dumped,you better check the news again.It was actually Cobalt-60 from an X-Ray machine,and appropriate actions were taken against it.A rouge scientist of Pakistani origin dumped nuclear garbage all over the World and made the World a lot more unsafe.What do you think about that???

Finally,India is shining because of its economic progress..Feeling jealous about it won't solve your problem....

so was gandhi killed and rajeev gandhi died in a bomb blast ..... recently 20 army men killed while going to their home .... kashmir is burning ... punjab wants its own independent landand wat will u say abt naksalites ......... wat abt mumbai attacks no matter who ever did that !! and frm where ever i learnt abt nuclear garbage dumping it was the right news ... u cant deny it when its on international forum...atleast pakistan;s much safer than india
 
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Dear 2nd Leutenent

How are you...
If india has some value infront of pakistan then why pakistan is still standing after 4 wars...
You were not able to occupy only lahore in 1965 then ab kya patt lu gay my dear betay.

Pakistan Zindabad:pakistan::pdf:

Dear 2nd Lieutenant ,

India has its value infront of the World because India respectfully let 90000 POWs go after 1971 war.India has its value because it respects others land as it does its own.Thats why India did not take East Pakistan rather it let the people of East Pakistan choose what to do,thats why Indian forces came back from Lahore after ceasefire as we know that Lahore is integral part of Pakistan.India has its value infront of the World because it follows a policy of no-Aggression.


Pakistan is still standing after 4 wars because we never wanted Pakistan to fall,we just concentrated on our defence.This thing might be taught to you in your country that India always planned to destroy and disintegrate Pakistan,but it is nothing but a lie to shift the focus of common people from more pressing internal needs...
 
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