Pakistan failed Kashmir in AJK

[Areesh]

I don't see people in Siachen protesting against Indian rule either. I wonder why Pakistan care about it so much than.

You can keep occupying that frozen iceland. Just stop fooling your nation that frozen icebox has a great strategic value.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I don't see people in Siachen protesting against Indian rule either. I wonder why Pakistan care about it so much than.

For once, a good post from @ranjeet .

You can keep occupying that frozen iceland. Just stop fooling your nation that frozen icebox has a great strategic value.

We're all right about it. It's some other country whose COAS keeps going on TV and suggesting a mutual pull-out.

 

[Areesh]

You summed up the points beautifully. I had mentioned in post after post the dangers of bringing China in, where the Kashgar rulers already had suzerainty over some of the Pamir Emirates, but the Pakistanis in their present state of euphoria about CPEC are simply not willing to see what they are doing to themselves. And indirectly, to us. Imagine several Chinese brigades in Baltistan and increasing pressure by them on Daulat Beg Oldi and on Pangong Tso.

As for @Areesh his posts do not depend too much on logic, they tend to be heavy on emotion. And he is also not very sure of what he is saying about a topic. But thanks for tagging me on this. Elsewhere a lady has reprinted an Arab atrocity picture and is busy selling it to us as an example of Kashmiri oppression. She's done this before, been caught at it, and is doing it again.

This is getting to be a three-ring circus.

Meanwhile the bhakts (you excluded ) are dying slow, excruciating deaths; four more cases of Dalit assault in Karnataka. I can't see the Parivar repeating this performance anytime soon.

Was expecting a better post with more substance and less personal opinions in it. Guess I was wrong in my expectations.

Nobody is dying in Shaksgam valley by the way. Lets see when you lift curfew from whole IOK. It is 15 days already.

We're all right about it. It's some other country whose COAS keeps going on TV and suggesting a mutual pull-out.

Yeah because it is a waste of money and men. You can take it as a proof of Siachen's strategic value. A perfect case of giving oneself satisfaction

"Oh that Pakistani general is talking about Siachen. Yes we are holding to something strategic."

 

[Joe Shearer]

@ranjeet Since when have Indians become so concerned with what Kashmiris want?

By the way, I also support JKLF, but I can't help but laugh at anxious Indians who are losing sleep over the plight of Kashmiris in AJK.

There are Indians and Indians.

 

[Hellfire]

You summed up the points beautifully. I had mentioned in post after post the dangers of bringing China in, where the Kashgar rulers already had suzerainty over some of the Pamir Emirates, but the Pakistanis in their present state of euphoria about CPEC are simply not willing to see what they are doing to themselves. And indirectly, to us. Imagine several Chinese brigades in Baltistan and increasing pressure by them on Daulat Beg Oldi and on Pangong Tso.

As for @Areesh his posts do not depend too much on logic, they tend to be heavy on emotion. And he is also not very sure of what he is saying about a topic. But thanks for tagging me on this. Elsewhere a lady has reprinted an Arab atrocity picture and is busy selling it to us as an example of Kashmiri oppression. She's done this before, been caught at it, and is doing it again.

This is getting to be a three-ring circus.

I like @Areesh and his attitude. What we call shooting sh1t with confidence....!!!

The Pakistanis are again heading for trouble as they surrendered the Hunza claims in the agreement and set a precedent. The Chinese have claimed all territories which at some point in history have been under their influence/occupation or even if Tibet had exercised some control over the same. Tibet had brief control over the areas of Gilgit et al .. and they are inviting the wolf into their pen of chicken!!! What dullards!!!

Meanwhile the bhakts (you excluded ) are dying slow, excruciating deaths; four more cases of Dalit assault in Karnataka. I can't see the Parivar repeating this performance anytime soon.

Ah am proudly a bhakt (of one and only) .... and so are you!!!!

We will discuss this somewhere else. I look at things through the prism of the state that is heading for elections. Church attacks - Kerala, Hindu Muslim UP/Bihar, now Dalit - again UP .... boring actually. If people are stupid enough to fall for these stunts prior to every election, they deserve the shit they get!!!

 

[Kabira]

That Pakistan’s least autonomous region’s name is prefixed with ‘Azad’ (Free) perfectly epitomises Islamabad’s idea of freedom for Kashmir. This is precisely why jihadist Hizb-ul-Mujahideen is presented as the face of Kashmiri struggle while Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF) and the United Kashmir People’s National Party (PNP) have beensidelined in AJK and IHK, with more than just the well-wishes of the Pakistani establishment.

I'm sure these popular parties can gather few thousand supporters to protest, right?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Was expecting a better post with more substance and less personal opinions in it. Guess I was wrong in my expectations.

You are right, actually, and the reason is @hellfire . He has taken control of the factual narrative, the historical narrative so beautifully that I really find nothing to do. It's an odd, light-headed feeling; for the first time, someone else on the Indian side who has the facts in mind, who has the analysis clear, and who, most precious of all, is not an obvious, open bhakt. Not to mention that he has been in the area and knows the spots like the back of his hand.

Nobody is dying in Shaksgam valley by the way. Lets see when you lift curfew from whole IOK. It is 15 days already.



Yeah because it is a waste of money and men. You can take it as a proof of Siachen's strategic value. A perfect case of giving oneself satisfaction

"Oh that Pakistani general is talking about Siachen. Yes we are holding to something strategic."

Oh, you took it that way. But then you would. It was simply that our generals didn't bother with explanations; yours are always going on about it.

 

[Areesh]

I like @Areesh and his attitude. What we call shooting sh1t with confidence....!!!

The Pakistanis are again heading for trouble as they surrendered the Hunza claims in the agreement and set a precedent. The Chinese have claimed all territories which at some point in history have been under their influence/occupation or even if Tibet had exercised some control over the same. Tibet had brief control over the areas of Gilgit et al .. and they are inviting the wolf into their pen of chicken!!! What dullards!!!



Ah am proudly a bhakt (of one and only) .... and so are you!!!!

We will discuss this somewhere else. I look at things through the prism of the state that is heading for elections. Church attacks - Kerala, Hindu Muslim UP/Bihar, now Dalit - again UP .... boring actually. If people are stupid enough to fall for these stunts prior to every election, they deserve the shit they get!!!

Errr. Wake me up when China would occupy Gilgit and Hunza.

Till then nobody in 200 million Pakistanis are interested in your stories and conspiracies of Chinese "expansionist designs".

Long before CPEC we worked with China for KKH and other projects and they didn't occupy even an inch of GB. So don't forget to give me a notification when China would actually occupy Gigit and Hunza. Bye.

 

[ranjeet]

You can keep occupying that frozen iceland. Just stop fooling your nation that frozen icebox has a great strategic value.

Can you withdraw your forces so that we can remove some of our 700,000 troops from there?

 

[Areesh]

You are right, actually, and the reason is @hellfire . He has taken control of the factual narrative, the historical narrative so beautifully that I really find nothing to do. It's an odd, light-headed feeling; for the first time, someone else on the Indian side who has the facts in mind, who has the analysis clear, and who, most precious of all, is not an obvious, open bhakt. Not to mention that he has been in the area and knows the spots like the back of his hand.



Oh, you took it that way. But then you would. It was simply that our generals didn't bother with explanations; yours are always going on about it.

His "facts" have been demolished. Have any more "facts" to add Mr Professional??

 

[Joe Shearer]

Errr. Wake me up when China would occupy Gilgit and Hunza.

Till then nobody in 200 million Pakistanis are interested in your stories and conspiracies of Chinese "expansionist designs".

Long before CPEC we worked with China for KKH and other projects and they didn't occupy even an inch of GB. So don't forget to give me a notification when China would actually occupy Gigit and Hunza. Bye.

You won't need one. Your descendants will.

 

[Areesh]

Can you withdraw your forces so that we can remove some of our 700,000 troops from there?

Nope. Can't trust you guys. You guys always have the ich to occupy more. Even today you guys are cursing yourself for not occupying Dansum in operation Meghdoot.

One of the failures of Operation Meghdoot was that it should have taken control of the Dansum area, which has given Pakistan the tactical advantage of having three approaches to Siachen, while India has only one route. To this I say, if we would have taken control of Dansum we would have violated the Shimla Agreement as Dansum is north-west and not north of NJ 9842. Secondly, Dansum is also situated in a valley (at 10-11,000 feet) and we would have been dominated by Pakistan unless we captured the heights west of Dansum on to the Karakoram Highway.

http://www.hoonslegacy.com/siachen-glacier/

So no we won't remove until you remove. Can't trust your ich to occupy.

You won't need one. Your descendants will.

They won't either. We know what we are doing and dealing with.

 

[Joe Shearer]

His "facts" have been demolished. Have any more "facts" to add Mr Professional??

Nobody demolished anything other than repeating again and again that they didn't believe what was being said. It was sad. Not one person to oppose all this.

 

[Areesh]

Nobody demolished anything other than repeating again and again that they didn't believe what was being said. It was sad. Not one person to oppose all this.

Whatever. Talk to us about failing Kashmiris when you don't have to kill Kashmiris to retain your occupation.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Nope. Can't trust you guys. You guys always have the ich to occupy more. Even today you guys are cursing yourself for not occupying Dansum in operation Meghdoot.



http://www.hoonslegacy.com/siachen-glacier/

So no we won't remove until you remove. Can't trust your ich to occupy.



They won't either. We know what we are doing and dealing with.

You know nothing. You have always had embarrassingly short term visions.