Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[Armchair]

US Marines are leaving Iraq amid protests and parliamentary orders.

This leaves Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as potential staging areas to deter Iran.

B-52's have already left Fairford and will be stationed in an island base in the Indian ocean.

However, a full scale war is not likely. Hence, there is a little chance of US releasing $2B in military payments which Obama administration seized. If it happens, 24 F-16V's will become a reality. Sadly, PAF is not over F-16 hysteria. We love them.

Basically the US and allied are building up to a war now or whenever to turn Iran into Iraq.
Secondly, Trump likes making deals.

Here is the deal - used f16s /m109 / c130/etc - which costs them nothing as otherwise they will turn into rust buckets anyways
For an ally to help with Iran

Rusting retired junk < ally

An ally who can hold Sistan Baluchestan when Iran is broken up.

Trump understands this kind of maths. Not the other indirect kind the US deep state likes.

In addition, we can make a nominal purchase of 6 f16s with 36 options so he can win some LM states and do some publicity.

One just needs to sell this correctly to Trump. They will bite but we to make sure f16 supply stays on a timetable so that they can't keep pushing dates. This should be in the deal from the getgo

 

[StructE]

There is no full scale war happening, at least with Iran, speaker of house is moving fast to curtail Trump's capacity to wage war, he will be defanged fairly quick.

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/06/7939...sure-limiting-trumps-military-actions-in-iran

Lets see what transpires for Pakistan from this limited skirmish, in my opinion any thoughts of military hardware on expense of Iran are not that great for Pakistan in long run, imagine another Afghanistan while the current one is not fully settled yet.

 

[Armchair]

Sh!t happens whether we want it or not.
There are those that can take advantage of it and turn it into Fertilizer and those that wallow in the what ifs.

If Israel wants a war the US will go to war, Congress or no Congress. Israel wants this war. We are at an advanced stage of an orchestration of war. The symphony has started. The fat lady is putting on her makeup.
Those smart enough see it.

 

[Raider 21]

UK could do it if the money is spent in the UK (read: Typhoon). Japan gave Qatar a loan for its Rafale purchase, so a Japanese loan could go the US, UK or France. Remember, about the UK or Japan, I am only talking about loans (that we'll need to pay back), not grants/aid.

KSA and/or UAE can obviously provide grants, especially if the US 'encourages' them to do it, and that money could go to the US, UK or France.

KSA does, how do you think the 1st and 2nd PEACE GATE FMS F-16 deals came through. The first F-16s to enter PAF service had to land in Saudi Arabia on their delivery flights from the US.

 

[DrWatson775]

KSA does, how do you think the 1st and 2nd PEACE GATE FMS F-16 deals came through. The first F-16s to enter PAF service had to land in Saudi Arabia on their delivery flights from the US.

Sad state of affairs economically. Sometimes I cannot believe how we ended up in such a bad economic situation. We didnt change our ways as debt trap/bad economic situation was common knowledge in the early 90s (maybe even before that). Now our vanguard -the airforce- has to suffer in these uncertain times.

 

[Tank131]

There should be no amount of money which Pakistan should take to help in any conflict against iran. Stay neutral and stay out of it. Try to make peace, because the US will jot be able to overthrow Iranian regime give zero appetite even amongst many Republicans to get into a war. They couldn't /wouldnt do so in Syria, and Iran is no syria. There may be a few strikes but that is it. You live next to Iran and 20% of your population is Shia (many who are quite loyal to Iran). Stay out of it no matter what is thrown in your lap. Iran will make it miserable for you and you are already surrounded by Afghanistan and India who hate Pakistan. Iran is more or less neutral (if not somewhat on Indias side). The US is not going to give anything that will make a significant difference vis a vis india nor will it help in Kashmir. So it wont be worth it.

 

[Windjammer]

Very few aircraft make an impression like the F-16.

 

[Trailer23]

Very few aircraft make an impression like the F-16.

A valuable lesson learned by the IAF last year.

 

[Talon]

@Trailer23 @Windjammer

 

[Windjammer]

@Trailer23 @Windjammer

Looks to be an old video as the ''Birdcutter'' seems to be missing.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

Looks to be an old video as the ''Birdcutter'' seems to be missing.

the grippen logo with a gray rectangular patch on rudder only existed after MLU. with this low quality video its hard to see bird cutters.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Sadly, PAF is not over F-16 hysteria. We love them.

Because they are proven

 

[Talon]

Looks to be an old video as the ''Birdcutter'' seems to be missing.

This tail art was adopted after MLU.IFF antennas are there but not visible due to low quality as @Myth_buster_1 said.
Also its an MLU cockpit if you look closely.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

This tail art was adopted after MLU.IFF antennas are there but not visible due to low quality as @Myth_buster_1 said.
Also its an MLU cockpit if you look closely.

oh also notice the sniper pod front portion.

 

[airomerix]

Also, the scales on the fuselage indicate it has gone through falcon star upgrade.