Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[AUz]

Perhaps they forgot to implement the so called "Kill Switches".

Good one

 

[blain2]

has been retained in the US for continued development work

could only mean 'evaluating' sensors or weapons!

It took off with the last 3 but developed a technical problem and returned. It will be in Pakistan shortly.

 

[blain2]

will the STAR upgrades running is parrallel.. or .. as a matter of fact, are these still intact??

As far as I am aware, the MLU will incorporate structural upgrades. Its a one-time deal. Once the aircraft come out of MLU, they will have structural upgrades as well as avionics ones.

 

[MZUBAIR]

 

[MZUBAIR]

Means our inventory would hav F-16's, JF-17's & Mirage ROSE.

Later years we will be having J10B....and then may be J20 (stealth)

 

[Mani2020]

Means our inventory would hav F-16's, JF-17's & Mirage ROSE.

Later years we will be having J10B....and then may be J20 (stealth)

Its not a hidden truth.

Mirage ROSE will serve atleast 5-6 more years along with F-7PG,while the non ROSE mirages and other non PG F-7's will gradually be replaced by jf-17

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

Built for Pakistan as 92732 (FMS 90-0945) but then embargoed. Has left AMARC for service with US Navy NSAWC

Delivered to Pakistan as 92-614

February 2, 2009:Another of the embargoed Pakistan F-16 working for the USN now.

 

[Mani2020]

Built for Pakistan as 92732 (FMS 90-0945) but then embargoed. Has left AMARC for service with US Navy NSAWC

Delivered to Pakistan as 92-614

February 2, 2009:Another of the embargoed Pakistan F-16 working for the USN now.

are these stealthy pics? coz i can't see them

 

[Imran Khan]

upload them again dear but i sure i already see them.

 

[DANGER-ZONE]

are these stealthy pics? coz i can't see them

brand new technology mate

upload them again dear but i sure i already see them.

i ve my eyes on few websites, when ever a new Picture is uploaded there i post it on PDF at once.
so i guess they are not old.
when u changed your name Imran bhai, ?

 

[Imran Khan]

brand new technology mate



i ve my eyes on few websites, when ever a new Picture is uploaded there i post it on PDF at once.
so i guess they are not old.
when u changed your name Imran bhai, ?

these pics are old dear but good for new members or people which never seen them before thanks for post.

after salman taseer murder i change many things

 

[Dazzler]

ALQ 211 and Pakistan F-16 fleet, another confirmation on two different variants, internal as well as more advanced podded 211 V9.. So, our blk 52's feature a SIRFC EW suite!!


Unlike any previous Aircraft Survivability Equipment (ASE) suite, the AN/ALQ-211 Suite of Integrated RF Countermeasures (SIRFC) broadband countermeasures set is designed to counter pulse, pulse-Doppler, continuous-wave and monopulse threats. The passive receiver portion of the system warns of emitters from C to M band and has the discrimination to identify threats with better than 90 percent certainty. Typically, radar-warning receivers look at just two signal parameters to identify enemy air defenders. By comparison, SIRFC checks 10 parameters to fingerprint enemy emitters with confidence. Threat characteristics are stored in the electronic order of battle that is loaded before each mission, and crews can call up threat data in flight. The SIRFC will replace the AN/APR-39A(V)1 radar warning receiver, the AN/ALQ-136(V)1/5 radar jammer and - in its podded form - the AN/ALQ-131 jammer pod and will give added countermeasures against continuous wave and pulse doppler threats. The total weight for the suite is 97 pounds.

SIRFC consists of three subsystems:

* Advanced Threat Radar Jammer (ATRJ)
* Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR)
* Advanced Airborne Radio Frequency Expendables (AARFE)

The SIRFC core consists of an Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR) and the Advanced Threat Radar Jammer (ATRJ). The core Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) design is comprised of four components. The Receiver/Processor containing the receiving, processing, and electronic countermeasures (ECM) generation functions of the ATRJ. The Remote Transmitter provide the self-protection transmitting capability of the ATRJ. The Advanced Countermeasures Module (ACM) provides advanced ECM techniques against a particular class of weapons. Finally, the Antenna Group which contains the receiver antenna for reception of microwave and millimeter wave signals and transmit antenna for transmission of microwave ECM signals.

The system is capable of operating in either an automatic or manual (command) mode. It provides warning (situational awareness), active jamming (self protection), and when necessary expendable countermeasures to defeat threat radar guided weapon systems. Radar guided air defense artillery threat systems include surface to air missiles (SAMs) and anti-aircraft artillery (AAA). A Southwest Asia theater of operations set in 2006 is the basis for threat selection for the engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) program. Future integration of SIRFC with the Suite of Integrated InfraRed CounterMeasures (SIIRCM), in some aircraft which may be equipped with both systems, is a program objective to optimize multi-spectral threat countermeasures. Threat systems are not only those originating from within the Former Soviet Union, but also systems made and proliferated by the United States, US allies, and other weapons producers.

Versions
AN/ALQ-211(V)1

Integrated on US AH-64D Longbow Apache.
AN/ALQ-211(V)2

Integrated in MV-22A.
AN/ALQ-211(V)3

The variant called ALQ-211(V)3 was selected for the US Army's RAH-66 Comanche attack helicopter. Comanche was cancelled in 2004.
AN/ALQ-211(V)4

This version of the ALQ-211 utilizes advanced wideband and digital receivers to quickly and accurately detect and identify multiple, complex emitters when operating in today's high density threat environment. AIDEWS provides protection against radar based threats using a highly flexible, programmable technique generator that transmits deceptive countermeasure signals and coordinates use of chaff and flares. Standard on export F-16 Block 50/52 and ordered by Chile, Pakistan, Maroc, Oman, Poland.
AN/ALQ-211(V)5

Norway selected the -211(V)5 variant for its NH90 helicopters.
AN/ALQ-211(V)6

Integrated in MH-47E.
AN/ALQ-211(V)7

Integrated in MH-60R.
AN/ALQ-211(V)8

The AN/ALQ-211(V)8 variant is available for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) providing ELINT, Electronic Support Measures (ESM) and targeting.
AN/ALQ-211(V)9

Aka Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS). Pod mounted AN/ALQ-211 jammer with the same aerodynamic and mass properties as the AN/ALQ-131, for which it is aimed as a replacement. Unit price approx. $ 3.5 million (including support, spares, documentation). Ordered by Pakistan.
Applications

* F-16C/D Block 50/52
* C-130J (export variants)
* NH-90
* AH-64D
* MH-47E/MH-47G
* MH-60K/MH-60M
* CV-22A/MV-22A



ITT AN/ALQ-211 - Scramble

 

[Desert Fox]

ALQ 211 and Pakistan F-16 fleet, another confirmation on two different variants, internal as well as more advanced podded 211 V9.. So, our blk 52's feature a SIRFC EW suite!!


Unlike any previous Aircraft Survivability Equipment (ASE) suite, the AN/ALQ-211 Suite of Integrated RF Countermeasures (SIRFC) broadband countermeasures set is designed to counter pulse, pulse-Doppler, continuous-wave and monopulse threats. The passive receiver portion of the system warns of emitters from C to M band and has the discrimination to identify threats with better than 90 percent certainty. Typically, radar-warning receivers look at just two signal parameters to identify enemy air defenders. By comparison, SIRFC checks 10 parameters to fingerprint enemy emitters with confidence. Threat characteristics are stored in the electronic order of battle that is loaded before each mission, and crews can call up threat data in flight. The SIRFC will replace the AN/APR-39A(V)1 radar warning receiver, the AN/ALQ-136(V)1/5 radar jammer and - in its podded form - the AN/ALQ-131 jammer pod and will give added countermeasures against continuous wave and pulse doppler threats. The total weight for the suite is 97 pounds.

SIRFC consists of three subsystems:

* Advanced Threat Radar Jammer (ATRJ)
* Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR)
* Advanced Airborne Radio Frequency Expendables (AARFE)

The SIRFC core consists of an Advanced Threat Radar Warning Receiver (ATRWR) and the Advanced Threat Radar Jammer (ATRJ). The core Engineering and Manufacturing Development (EMD) design is comprised of four components. The Receiver/Processor containing the receiving, processing, and electronic countermeasures (ECM) generation functions of the ATRJ. The Remote Transmitter provide the self-protection transmitting capability of the ATRJ. The Advanced Countermeasures Module (ACM) provides advanced ECM techniques against a particular class of weapons. Finally, the Antenna Group which contains the receiver antenna for reception of microwave and millimeter wave signals and transmit antenna for transmission of microwave ECM signals.

The system is capable of operating in either an automatic or manual (command) mode. It provides warning (situational awareness), active jamming (self protection), and when necessary expendable countermeasures to defeat threat radar guided weapon systems. Radar guided air defense artillery threat systems include surface to air missiles (SAMs) and anti-aircraft artillery (AAA). A Southwest Asia theater of operations set in 2006 is the basis for threat selection for the engineering and manufacturing development (EMD) program. Future integration of SIRFC with the Suite of Integrated InfraRed CounterMeasures (SIIRCM), in some aircraft which may be equipped with both systems, is a program objective to optimize multi-spectral threat countermeasures. Threat systems are not only those originating from within the Former Soviet Union, but also systems made and proliferated by the United States, US allies, and other weapons producers.

Versions
AN/ALQ-211(V)1

Integrated on US AH-64D Longbow Apache.
AN/ALQ-211(V)2

Integrated in MV-22A.
AN/ALQ-211(V)3

The variant called ALQ-211(V)3 was selected for the US Army's RAH-66 Comanche attack helicopter. Comanche was cancelled in 2004.
AN/ALQ-211(V)4

This version of the ALQ-211 utilizes advanced wideband and digital receivers to quickly and accurately detect and identify multiple, complex emitters when operating in today's high density threat environment. AIDEWS provides protection against radar based threats using a highly flexible, programmable technique generator that transmits deceptive countermeasure signals and coordinates use of chaff and flares. Standard on export F-16 Block 50/52 and ordered by Chile, Pakistan, Maroc, Oman, Poland.
AN/ALQ-211(V)5

Norway selected the -211(V)5 variant for its NH90 helicopters.
AN/ALQ-211(V)6

Integrated in MH-47E.
AN/ALQ-211(V)7

Integrated in MH-60R.
AN/ALQ-211(V)8

The AN/ALQ-211(V)8 variant is available for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) providing ELINT, Electronic Support Measures (ESM) and targeting.
AN/ALQ-211(V)9

Aka Advanced Integrated Defensive Electronic Warfare Suite (AIDEWS). Pod mounted AN/ALQ-211 jammer with the same aerodynamic and mass properties as the AN/ALQ-131, for which it is aimed as a replacement. Unit price approx. $ 3.5 million (including support, spares, documentation). Ordered by Pakistan.
Applications

* F-16C/D Block 50/52
* C-130J (export variants)
* NH-90
* AH-64D
* MH-47E/MH-47G
* MH-60K/MH-60M
* CV-22A/MV-22A



ITT AN/ALQ-211 - Scramble

How many F-16's will Pakistan have in total when we acquire both MLU's and BLK52's?

i heard it will be 70-72? is that true?

 

[Areesh]

How many F-16's will Pakistan have in total when we acquire both MLU's and BLK52's?

i heard it will be 70-72? is that true?

Yes they will if we get all of our embargoed F-16's back.

 

[graphican]

Yes they will if we get all of our embargoed F-16's back.

But why would we get them back? US and Pakistan are about to point guns at each other.. US is already mad at us and the way things are going, it will only help them go further crazy. Yet another "honey-moon" period of this relationship is over. Did you hear they are stopping our reimbursement and agreed money already? So what else is left to hope those embargoed planes would get back.. I think we should rather welcome the new embargoes that just around the corner for us.