Pakistan F-16 Discussions 2

[ghazi52]

Viper with a diaper bag at Shahbaz post delivery from Fort Worth. From the induction ceremony, circa 2010/2011.
Nothing beats a clean block 52

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Windjammer]

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

This is only my views you can add your knowledge.
Is it possible for PAC to rebuild F-16 with Chinese engine and PAC made parts?

What will happen if we put WS 10 or WS 15 engine in F-16?

Is it rocket science to make F-16 body parts?

Can we fire PL-15 with F-16?
Chuck Yeager: 1971-73 was in Pakistan
He wrote in his book that PAF engineer are expert in fitting USA made bombs and rocket in Chinese jets F6 aircraft.
Same we can do with other Fighetr jets Buy from Jordan Qatar Egypt and KSA and totly rebuild all these aircraft.
Iran has upgraded its fleet of F-14.
Buy compunents from open Market and give a new life to our Jets.

This F-14 is the combination of Russian and Chinese parts.

F-2 Japan

 

[jupiter2007]

This is only my views you can add your knowledge.
Is it possible for PAC to rebuild F-16 with Chinese engine and PAC made parts?

What will happen if we put WS 10 or WS 15 engine in F-16?

Is it rocket science to make F-16 body parts?

Can we fire PL-15 with F-16?
Chuck Yeager: 1971-73 was in Pakistan
He wrote in his book that PAF engineer are expert in fitting USA made bombs and rocket in Chinese jets F6 aircraft.
Same we can do with other Fighetr jets Buy from Jordan Qatar Egypt and KSA and totly rebuild all these aircraft.
Iran has upgraded its fleet of F-14.
Buy compunents from open Market and give a new life to our Jets.

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This F-14 is the combination of Russian and Chinese parts.

F-2 Japan
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Not sure if I should laugh or cry…

We can’t buy used F-16s from xyz country without uncle Sam’s approval and we can’t modify any American product without their approval.
Our foucus should be JF-17 and AZM project.
Im order to replace older Mirage and F-7s,
We should be working to increase annual production rate of JF-17 block 3.
Also for future option….we should be working on Block4. I don’t think Pakistan will waiste resources on another 3.5 generation fighter. We should be thinking about 4.5 to 5th generation fighter. Either buy off the shelf or custom build fighter.

 

[Raider 21]

This is only my views you can add your knowledge.
Is it possible for PAC to rebuild F-16 with Chinese engine and PAC made parts?

What will happen if we put WS 10 or WS 15 engine in F-16?

Is it rocket science to make F-16 body parts?

Can we fire PL-15 with F-16?
Chuck Yeager: 1971-73 was in Pakistan
He wrote in his book that PAF engineer are expert in fitting USA made bombs and rocket in Chinese jets F6 aircraft.
Same we can do with other Fighetr jets Buy from Jordan Qatar Egypt and KSA and totly rebuild all these aircraft.
Iran has upgraded its fleet of F-14.
Buy compunents from open Market and give a new life to our Jets.

View attachment 784486
This F-14 is the combination of Russian and Chinese parts.

F-2 Japan
View attachment 784491
View attachment 784492

No it is not possible

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

Not sure if I should laugh or cry…

We can’t buy used F-16s from xyz country without uncle Sam’s approval and we can’t modify any American product without their approval.
Our foucus should be JF-17 and AZM project.
Im order to replace older Mirage and F-7s,
We should be working to increase annual production rate of JF-17 block 3.
Also for future option….we should be working on Block4. I don’t think Pakistan will waiste resources on another 3.5 generation fighter. We should be thinking about 4.5 to 5th generation fighter. Either buy off the shelf or custom build fighter.

By Upgrading F-16 we can earn good name in Market.
if iraq and other country will contact for MLU with US it will be costly, but if PAC will do this it will be cost effective.

Nither laugh not cry, People used to Laugh when we used to say we will have Pakistan a indepandent country for Muslim,
People used to Laugh when we used to say Pakistan will have Nukes.

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

No it is not possible

Not Possible are possible.
20 Years US was in Afghanistan, 300,000/= Afghan Army traind by USA Nato and India, was it possible for Taliban to get back Kabul? No it was not possible as per Media and your advisor but they made it possible.

This is our history we make possible from impossible.
Islam was in Arab, was it possible for Muslims to take over half of Asia, Africa and some parts of europe?
We did it.

 

[Raider 21]

Not Possible are possible.
20 Years US was in Afghanistan, 300,000/= Afghan Army traind by USA Nato and India, was it possible for Taliban to get back Kabul? No it was not possible as per Media and your advisor but they made it possible.

This is our history we make possible from impossible.
Islam was in Arab, was it possible for Muslims to take over half of Asia, Africa and some parts of europe?
We did it.

Going back to your original question. No it is not possible for PAC Kamra to custom build F-16 engine parts.

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

Going back to your original question. No it is not possible for PAC Kamra to custom build F-16 engine parts.

During US sanctions on pakistan 1990 to 2000.
PAC make them fly without US spare Parts How?

 

[Raider 21]

During US sanctions on pakistan 1990 to 2000.
PAC make them fly without US spare Parts How?

Sanctions were in place for new aircraft. Not for spare parts.

 

[araz]

During US sanctions on pakistan 1990 to 2000.
PAC make them fly without US spare Parts How?

Spare parts were acquired from the black market for the 16s. The idea you purport is not possible. Please stop arguing over the subject. There will be huge issues with copyrights, and research into different engines and its impact over the aerodynamics. It is not possible otherwise PAC would have built it-rather than the JFT. Listen to Shahid Lateef's original interviews about the birth of JFT. THE CHINESE TOLD HIM IT IS NOT POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO MAKE AN AIRCRAFT LIKE THE F16.
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[Signalian]

This is only my views you can add your knowledge.
Is it possible for PAC to rebuild F-16 with Chinese engine and PAC made parts?

What will happen if we put WS 10 or WS 15 engine in F-16?

Is it rocket science to make F-16 body parts?

Can we fire PL-15 with F-16?
Chuck Yeager: 1971-73 was in Pakistan
He wrote in his book that PAF engineer are expert in fitting USA made bombs and rocket in Chinese jets F6 aircraft.
Same we can do with other Fighetr jets Buy from Jordan Qatar Egypt and KSA and totly rebuild all these aircraft.
Iran has upgraded its fleet of F-14.
Buy compunents from open Market and give a new life to our Jets.

View attachment 784486
This F-14 is the combination of Russian and Chinese parts.

F-2 Japan
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View attachment 784492

JF-17 is in service so why modify F-16. The result will be somewhere closer to J-10 or an expensive F-2.

 

[Khaqan Humayun]

JF-17 is in service so why modify F-16. The result will be somewhere closer to J-10 or an expensive F-2.

USAF have F-16 then Why F-18?
They Have F-14 then Why F-15?

Russia Have SU 35 then why Mig 35.

Dear, every aircraft has its own worth, JFT is our backbone but for research and development to teach your Aeronautical students it is best policy to rebuild F-16.

Best example is China J11 J16 F7pg all are copy.
We can change little in canopy or wings this little change will allow us to rebuild according our needs.

 

[Signalian]

USAF have F-16 then Why F-18?
They Have F-14 then Why F-15?

Russia Have SU 35 then why Mig 35.

Dear, every aircraft has its own worth, JFT is our backbone but for research and development to teach your Aeronautical students it is best policy to rebuild F-16.

Best example is China J11 J16 F7pg all are copy.
We can change little in canopy or wings this little change will allow us to rebuild according our needs.

USAF has Ops all around the world where as PAF's Ops are very limited and incomparable with USAF. Very weak argument.