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Pakistan doesn't reopen border despite US apology
By SEBASTIAN ABBOT, Associated Press Writer – 19 mins ago
ISLAMABAD – Pakistan said Thursday it has not decided when to reopen a key border crossing NATO uses to ship supplies to Afghanistan despite a U.S. apology for a helicopter attack that killed two Pakistani soldiers.
A suspected U.S. missile strike, meanwhile, killed three people in a northwestern Pakistan tribal region along the border, the latest in a surge of such attacks on militant strongholds, intelligence officials said.
Both the U.S. and NATO expressed their condolences Wednesday for the Sept. 30 attack and said American helicopters mistook the Pakistani soldiers for insurgents being pursued across the border from Afghanistan.
The apologies raised expectations that the Torkham border crossing along the famed Khyber Pass could reopen very soon. But Pakistan Foreign Ministry spokesman Abdul Basit said at a news conference Thursday that authorities were still evaluating the situation and would make a decision "in due course."
The delay could be short-lived since U.S. and Pakistani officials predicted the border crossing would be reopened in a matter of days even before the apologies were issued.
Pakistan closed Torkham to NATO supply convoys on the same day as the attack, leaving hundreds of trucks stranded alongside the country's highways or stuck in traffic on the way to the one route into Afghanistan from the south that has remained open.
Suspected militants have taken advantage of the impasse to attack stranded or rerouted trucks. Gunmen torched 70 fuel tankers and killed a driver in two attacks Wednesday.
The U.S. ambassador to Pakistan, Anne Patterson, said in a statement Wednesday that "we extend our deepest apology to Pakistan and the families of the Frontier Scouts who were killed and injured."
The U.S. and NATO issued apologies after their investigation found that the Pakistani soldiers fired at the two U.S. helicopters prior to the attack, likely trying to notify the aircraft of their presence after the helicopters entered Pakistani airspace several times.
The head of the investigation — U.S. Air Force Brig. Gen. Tim Zadalis, NATO's director for air plans in Afghanistan — said the "tragic event" could have been avoided with better coordination with the Pakistani military.
Both the head of NATO forces in Afghanistan, Gen. David Petraeus, and the chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, pledged to work with Pakistan to make sure it doesn't happen again.
"Please know that the families of the soldiers in this tragic incident are in our constant thoughts and prayers," Mullen wrote in a letter he sent to the head of the Pakistani army, Gen. Ashfaq Parvez Kayani.
NATO officials have insisted the border closure has not caused supply problems for troops since hundreds of trucks still enter Afghanistan each day through the Chaman crossing in southwestern Pakistan and via Central Asian states.
But reopening Torkham is definitely a priority for NATO because it is the main crossing in Pakistan, the country through which NATO ships the majority of its supplies into Afghanistan. Other routes are more expensive and logistically difficult.
Despite the border tensions, the U.S. has kept up its missile strikes in Pakistan's tribal belt, where several militant groups are based.
The one Thursday targeted a vehicle in a thickly forested area near the town of Mir Ali in the North Waziristan tribal region, two Pakistani intelligence officials said.
The identities of the dead were not immediately known, but the territory is believed to be controlled by Pakistani Taliban militants.
The strike Thursday would be the sixth suspected missile attack this month, keeping up a recent surge in such CIA-run, drone-fired attacks. In September, the U.S. is believed to have launched at least 21 such attacks, an unprecedented number and nearly all in North Waziristan.
The two officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk to the media.
The U.S. rarely acknowledges the covert missile strike program. Pakistan officially opposes the program, but is believed to secretly support it.
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Associated Press Writer Rasool Dawar contributed to this report.
(This version CORRECTS that Thursday's missile strike is the sixth this month)
 
beside enjoying i believe pakistani top level command of army is thinking about what will be the next move and how to counter it ............. well that might be the case ........................ or may be kiyani putted more demands in front of nato and usa ............
people used to say he is genious he is showing some of his worth ........ in the recent book "Barak obama's war" write wrote that he is very determined .... one cannot change his mind untill he wants and i think he is stick not to open the routes
 
Why should entire Afghanistan suffer for of an accident involving 3 Pakistani soldiers ? The USA has apologized, isn't that what Pakistan was asking for ?
 
Why should entire Afghanistan suffer for of an accident involving 3 Pakistani soldiers ? The USA has apologized, isn't that what Pakistan was asking for ?



You can’t cover whole this matter and situation in one sentence or we couldn’t close eyes on US & NATO apologies because there are several serious concerns are related with this supply cut off. Loss of 3 soldiers are a big loss and loss od those who are standing on boarder to protect the country from aggressors.
 
In my personal opinion, this closure of the border was a big blunder by Pakistan. A threat has a value only till the time it remains a threat. Once you go ahead and act on it, you have already punished the other guy. By next time, he will have a contingency in place and the bargaining power of Pakistan will be that much lower.
 
I thought the only bargaining power had over US was the NATO LoC....seems to be a humbug to me
 
In my personal opinion, this closure of the border was a big blunder by Pakistan. A threat has a value only till the time it remains a threat. Once you go ahead and act on it, you have already punished the other guy. By next time, he will have a contingency in place and the bargaining power of Pakistan will be that much lower.

If it only remains a threat that will never materialize, it will still hold no value. The NATO had crossed the border 3 times in a week after which this step has been taken. Its an open secret that Pak Govt has agreed about the drone strikes but the hot pursuite thing is off the table now as Pakistan's reaction suggests. As far as having a contingency is concerned the US has been here for 10 yrs and there were no and still are no better routes for the supplies. China and Iran are a no go zone for the supplies, all the other routes from the central Asia will involve the Russians. Us not at its full strength will be handicapped at the bargin table with Russia for the supplies to continue. The Russians might feel that the history has repeated it self and now the US will be dependent on them for their survival in Afghanistan.
 
Yeah Buddy we don't have any bargaining power.NATO will open another supply route through your a$$.
 
NATO snubs Pakistan's route closure

NATO says it will have no problem in sending supplies to its troops in Afghanistan despite Pakistan's closure of a key supply line for NATO trucks.

Pakistan blocked the NATO supply route to Afghanistan for the eighth successive day on Thursday.

The shutting of the border to NATO convoys came after Pakistani military officials said NATO helicopters killed three Pakistani soldiers at an outpost near the Afghan border.

Meanwhile, US Ambassador to Islamabad Anne Patterson on Wednesday offered Washington's "deepest apology" over the killings and violations.

NATO spokesman Brigadier-General Josef Blotz said on Thursday that the alliance has built up reserves and developed alternative supply routes.

"We have plenty of stocks and supplies within Afghanistan, just in case things like this happen. Secondly, over the last couple of years we managed to diversify supply routes," Blotz was quoted as saying by Reuters.

"We also rely on the so-called northern distribution network and we are getting in dry goods, fuel and other essential military equipment through border crossing points with, for example, Uzbekistan," he added.

On Wednesday, unknown gunmen in Pakistan torched about 45 NATO supply trucks, police said.

Pakistani militants claimed responsibility for the attacks, saying the attacks were in response to the increasing number of unsanctioned US drone attacks in Pakistan's tribal regions.

Source: PressTV
 
Pakistan Nation will re-open the route if/when it sees fit. No need for further analyses and speculation.

Band mutthi laakh ki, khul gayi toh khaak ki!

Pakistan is making hay while the sun shines. The day the US leaves A'stan, they will dump Pakistan like they did earlier.
 
Looks all drama to me.
1. What's the expectation from Pak after this incident ? Seriously, apart from initial condemnation, dont see any reaction from Pak. I believe both Gov and Military are clueless on what needs to be done.

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NATO officials have insisted the border closure has not caused supply problems for troops since hundreds of trucks still enter Afghanistan each day through the Chaman crossing in southwestern Pakistan and via Central Asian states.
I dont understand what's the point in closing out one route, while keeping another route open. Pls dont play the major vs minor supply route. But in principle you want NATO to use your land or not? The situation sounds comical though.
 
Band mutthi laakh ki, khul gayi toh khaak ki!

Pakistan is making hay while the sun shines. The day the US leaves A'stan, they will dump Pakistan like they did earlier.

Pakistan is fully aware of that. The U.S. is not an all-weather ally of Pakistan, it's not even a fair-weather ally, but it is a when-in-need ally. The question is not if the U.S. will abandon Pakistan, but when.
However, Pakistan should open the border soon along with the warning that the border posts will be armed with AA weapons. Just like the U.S. troops had a right to "self-defend" themselves, so do Pakistani troops.
 
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