Pakistan-China Joint Defense Production "Irks West"

[RazorMC]

Dr. Sahab, those days are gone now and China is currently at least in early 2000 in terms of aircraft technologies in many cases and in some cases the deference is now marginal.

In which case, sir?

 

[Blue Marlin]

meh.... it irked us a while ago but we did not bother, nor did anything to counter it

 

[My-Analogous]

In which case, sir?

Air to Air Missiles

http://www.popsci.com/chinese-air-to-air-missile-hits-targets-spooks-usaf-general

Radars
http://nationalinterest.org/blog/th...ia-plan-crush-americas-stealth-aircraft-13708

Anti-Stealth Radar Material
http://www.ibtimes.com/chinas-new-a...y-could-make-jets-ships-harder-detect-2181442

 

[Ray_of_Hope]

Beware of the west, they are doing whatever they can to undermined sino- pakistan r/s to end this military cooperation. They are even using turkey as proxy trying to do the job. The true all weather Pakistan have is China.

Yes China is the all weather Friend but Turkey is our Brother....Peace

 

[RiazHaq]

Dr. Sahab, those days are gone now and China is currently at least in early 2000 in terms of aircraft technologies in many cases and in some cases the deference is now marginal.

A big advantage US has is the fact its stuff uses battle tested technology coming out of Silicon Valley.

 

[Mrc]

Americans are making same mistake that USSR made , and before that British , ottomans and various other empires made.... they are assuming that they are too powerful to fail....

They are slacking ,,, alienating allies and are risking their influence over whole middle east ....
With russia entering Syria and Chinese taking over gwadar, american will be challenged soon for their exclusive rights on middle eastern oil fields e.g...and there would beno one who will trust them then

 

[nangyale]

A big advantage US has is the fact its stuff uses battle tested technology coming out of Silicon Valley.

Battle tested against what? Some third, nah fourth world country with no logistics, air force and battlefield formations to talk of.
Get it battle tested against an equal peer and then we can talk, otherwise it's just a term good only for marketing purposes nothing more.

Plus don't forget you might have the best weapons in the world but if you can't procure the right ammunition and spares for it then it's worse than useless.

 

[Beast]

Yes China is the all weather Friend but Turkey is our Brother....Peace

Your so called brother is heavily link and depend on NATO and USA for protection and military assist. That is not a good thing. US is hostile against Pakistan. It will not be long US forced turkey to turn hostile against pakistan. Turkey forsake of its alliance with NATO and bigger benefit from US will have to compliance.

That is a reality and limitation of turkey.

 

[RiazHaq]

Battle tested against what? Some third, nah fourth world country with no logistics, air force and battlefield formations to talk of.
Get it battle tested against an equal peer and then we can talk, otherwise it's just a term good only for marketing purposes nothing more.

Plus don't forget you might have the best weapons in the world but if you can't procure the right ammunition and spares for it then it's worse than useless.

No one with any real knowledge of the facts questions US superiority in the air regardless of the enemy. Countries with large air forces equipped with sophisticated Russian and European equipment have failed time again when confronted with US technology in the Middle East and elsewhere.

As to comparison of US Air Force with F16s vs Indian Air Force with Su30 MK at Red Flag exercise, watch this video of an American colonel talking about it:

 

[dadeechi]

Beware of the west, they are doing whatever they can to undermined sino- pakistan r/s to end this military cooperation. They are even using turkey as proxy trying to do the job. The true all weather Pakistan have is China.

Are you saying that Pakistan should trust China rather than Turkey?

Do you know that majority of Pakistanis claim to have Turkish origin?

Your so called brother is heavily link and depend on NATO and USA for protection and military assist. That is not a good thing. US is hostile against Pakistan. It will not be long US forced turkey to turn hostile against pakistan. Turkey forsake of its alliance with NATO and bigger benefit from US will have to compliance.

That is a reality and limitation of turkey.

Does China trust Taiwan?

Yes China is the all weather Friend but Turkey is our Brother....Peace

Exactly

 

[Beast]

Are you saying that Pakistan should trust China rather than Turkey?

Do you know that majority of Pakistanis claim to have Turkish origin?



Does China trust Taiwan?



Exactly

An Indian making a comment about Sino-Pakistan r/s? Hmmm....

Most Pakistan has close ties to Iran. The Mughal empire. Turkey closer ties to NATO and West shall make anybody outside the western circle beware.

Are you saying if USA and western NATO decide to attack Pakistan, Turkey will side with Pakistan and fight the west? Dont be delusion. Turkish with her economic and military tie to the West, has no choice but to open her land and airspace to facilitate Western airstrike against Pakistan. Just like how they do it to Iraq.

China is the only country that can back Pakistan against NATO.

 

[dadeechi]

An Indian making a comment about Sino-Pakistan r/s? Hmmm....

Most Pakistan has close ties to Iran. The Mughal empire. Turkey closer ties to NATO and West shall make anybody outside the western circle beware.

Are you saying if USA and western NATO decide to attack Pakistan, Turkey will side with Pakistan and fight the west? Dont be delusion. Turkish with her economic and military tie to the West, has no choice but to open her land and airspace to facilitate Western airstrike against Pakistan. Just like how they do it to Iraq.

China is the only country that can back Pakistan against NATO.

India and Pakistan share the same history.

No. Mughals are not Iranian.

I was only responding to your uneducated comment on Turkic-Pakistan relations. Nothing to do with the current China-Pakistan relations which are formed to counter India rather than the Turkic-Pakistan which are based on shared ethnicity and culture.

 

[Soulspeek]

Sino-Pak cooperation in defence is both good and bad for Pakistan. Good because it gives them reliable source of weaponry without any fear of sanctions. Bad because it will also discourage other countries to share their military hardware with them as they know pretty well about the reverse engineering feats of Chinese!

 

[Beast]

Sino-Pak cooperation in defence is both good and bad for Pakistan. Good because it gives them reliable source of weaponry without any fear of sanctions. Bad because it will also discourage other countries to share their military hardware with them as they know pretty well about the reverse engineering feats of Chinese!

The best decision Pakistanis ever made in the last 50 years is to choosing China as her major allies.

Just like how Jerry Yang, founder of Yahoo decide to bag China Alibaba corp with USD1billion dollar. Turn out to be the best investment ever make despite initial criticism and mockery by rivals.

 

[cabatli_53]

Your so called brother is heavily link and depend on NATO and USA for protection and military assist. That is not a good thing. US is hostile against Pakistan. It will not be long US forced turkey to turn hostile against pakistan. Turkey forsake of its alliance with NATO and bigger benefit from US will have to compliance.

That is a reality and limitation of turkey.

You seem to have a deep pain regarding Turkey but I advice you to care your own countries' relations instead of stressing your brain with Turkey-Pakistan related subjects. Imagination of a little Chinese guy doesn't lead the roadway of brother's relations. Don't waste your breath to subjects you can never get regarding Turkey and Pakistan.