Pakistan buys 13 F16 from Jordan

[SQ8]

Do you know?

Im not the one claiming manufacturing years and aircraft status. What is the basis for your claim?

 

[BATMAN]

Is 5000 hours not enough how many hours do you think an F-16 would be flying per year any clue? Lets put a single aircraft flying 250 hours per year X 20 Years = 5000 hours...These F-16 would be sufficient for PAF uptill 2030.

As i mentioned before in post 295

To start with, those a/c would require overhaul & MLU (inclusive of structural repair) to become a safe and integrated machine.
After which they may be good for another 3000-4000 hrs. depending on the maintenance, flying and spares availability.
I think we have only 10 spare MLU kits from ordered kits and i doubt US will sell us any more MLU kits.

Im not the one claiming manufacturing years and aircraft status. What is the basis for your claim?

I'll come back to you, after reading your posts in this thread!

 

[Luftwaffe]

As i mentioned before in post 295

To start with, those a/c would require overhaul & MLU (inclusive of structural repair) to become a safe and integrated machine.
After which they may be good for another 3000-4000 hrs. depending on the maintenance, flying and spares availability.
I think we have only 10 spare MLU kits from ordered kits and i doubt US will sell us any more MLU kits.

Why would US not sell any more MLU Kits and other equipment/spares...did not US just authorize Jordan to transfer/sell Numbers of F-16s.

Obviously those F-16s have been inspected/checked out and deemed fit you will know more what PAF intends to do with them once they are received.

 

[BATMAN]

16 General Dynamics F-16 Fighting Falcon(12 F-16A and 4 F-16B)in storage at the Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Center (AMARC) at Davis Monthan AFB. Deliveries commenced in 1997 and were completed in 1998.

did not US just authorize Jordan to transfer/sell Numbers of F-16s.

Since Musharraf gone, US authorize nothing more than junk and all permissions were agreed during Musharraf era.

16 of which are ADFs

 

[illusion8]

There is no other place in the world where high tech russian equipment will come face to face with an american equipment other than the the skies over india / pakistan.

SU 30's aren't just Russian equipment, it has a mix of Israeli, French and Indian tech as well.

 

[VCheng]

It is quite interesting to see how the USA is "hated" but yet any mention of supplies of military hardware leads to such "excitement" too.

 

[MastanKhan]

Brother , i don't know whether if it's been asked before or not , but then again i anyway still want to ask that : Why is PakisTan air ForCe depreciating the already limited service-life of our preCious F-16s in killing those dogs of hell in north waziristan ... ! ?

Can't the surgiCaL strikes be carried out with P.a.F.'s JF-17 Lightening Thunder Or any other fighter airCraft being currently available in its inventory for that matter such as f7-pg , a-5 or even mirages ... ?

Hi,

When at first we asked for these aircraft---we told them what these aircraft are going to be used for---and they are doing what they are designed to do. Strike strike strike and strike---.

You put results on the board---you got carte blanche----plus---what you are getting from this combat is experience that you can never have otherwise---. Live excercizes can only do so much for the pilot----actual combat is what really makes the difference.

As for the mileage on the aircraft---big deal---there are more from where these came from---. Plus in due time these aircraft will become outdated----so why not use them.

It is also a matter of prudence to ensure that weaponry provided is used as intended.

Hi,

Absolutely----and the prudence will only go as far as no first strike---. After that---once the gates of hell are opened---there will be no constraints. There will be no restrictions.

The Chuck Yeager's will be waiting in the wings to see how their equipment performed against the russian and the british equipment---israeli also.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

@Pakistanisage @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Zarvan @BATMAN @Aeronaut @Luftwaffe @Oscar @pakistan @Pakistanis

Congrats to you all guys

Still more stuff ahead to come ? ......

 

[Kompromat]

@Pakistanisage @Irfan Baloch @Imran Khan @Zarvan @BATMAN @Aeronaut @Luftwaffe @Oscar @pakistan @Pakistanis

Congrats to you all guys

Still more stuff ahead to come ? ......

Maybe more surplus F-16s....we will keep collecting them, if and when we get a good deal.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Maybe more surplus F-16s....we will keep collecting them, if and when we get a good deal.

Maybe, maybe much more?

 

[araz]

Please keep in mind that any bugs found could be planted by many other countries wishing to track assets.

What! Are you accusing the turks to plant bugs in their own planes to malign good old USA. VCHENG I expected better from you. Or are you suggesting that some other govt will plant bugs in a crashed plane which fhe turks themselves have salvaged from a crash site.
In any case homing devices and probably IFF not recognizing US planes is about the extent of the kill switch that LM would plant.

 

[Kompromat]

Maybe, maybe much more?

Not much. Ideally if we could collect up to a 100 MLU/Block-52+ F-16s and 250 JF-17s in Block I/II/III - we should be okay for replacing our older platforms and for maintaining a power balance.

 

[BATMAN]

The Chuck Yeager's will be waiting in the wings to see how their equipment performed against the russian and the british equipment---israeli also.

I think cold war is over!

 

[VCheng]

What! Are you accusing the turks to plant bugs in their own planes to malign good old USA. VCHENG I expected better from you. Or are you suggesting that some other govt will plant bugs in a crashed plane which fhe turks themselves have salvaged from a crash site.
In any case homing devices and probably IFF not recognizing US planes is about the extent of the kill switch that LM would plant.

Keeping track of Turkish F-16s would be something many countries would find desirable: Israel, Russia, Greece, for example. USA has better ways to achieve the same, and more, without discrete and discoverable bugs.

 

[Bratva]

@Oscar @VCheng I guess US not notifying to congress is kind of loophole in their laws they are trying to exploit. Hence the transfer of AIM-9x and other goodies through Jordan without congress breathing down US administration is very much possible. Have a look at this

Major non-NATO ally

In 1996 major non-NATO allies received additional military and financial benefits when section 2321k was added to Title 22 (Foreign Relations) of the U.S. Code (also known as section 517 of the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961), which added MNNAs to many of the same exemptions from the Arms Export Control Act that were enjoyed by NATO members

Nations named as major non-NATO allies are eligible for the following benefits:

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  • entry into cooperative research and development projects with the Department of Defense (DoD) on a shared-cost basis
  • participation in certain counter-terrorism initiatives
  • purchase of depleted uranium anti-tank rounds
  • priority delivery of military surplus (ranging from rations to ships)
  • possession of War Reserve Stocks of DoD-owned equipment that are kept outside of American military bases
  • loans of equipment and materials for cooperative research and development projects and evaluations
  • permission to use American financing for the purchase or lease of certain defense equipment
  • reciprocal training
  • expedited export processing of space technology