Pakistan, Bangladesh broadcast prayers at Hagia Sophia

[VikingRaider]

same like sultan modi have paid it already . and indian ulema counsel revived that amount and land already

How he can pay while Muslims aren't allowed to sell Masjid? Indian Ulema surely fear Modi so remain silent .Don't be an idiot when writing messages. "Hagia Sophia" was a Masjid before and later it was turned to museum.

 

[Nasr]

As far I know ,"Hagia sofia" was bought by ottomans from christians . So I don't think it was bad when they turned it to Masjid.

But later when Turkey turned it into Museum,I think they committed crime , because Muslims won't sell Mosque ,it's not permissible.

That is a bogus claim, one which has no basis of validity whatsoever. When one kingdom conquers another, what basis would there be to "purchase the property"? Then why the heck did their idiotic self even bother to prepare for war and fight against city that was only trying to defend itself?

Hagia Sofia IS the HQ of Orthodox Christianity, not just any ordinary Church. As Muslims, we don't destroy or convert places of worship belonging to other religions. Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam did NOT do it, the Khulafa-e-Rashidun did NOT do it. And as such, no TRUE MUSLIM would give a damn if anyone else ever did it, period!!!

We Muslims must adhere to ourhe Holy Qur'an and our beloved Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. True Muslims do not follow any govt, any country, unless that govt and that country follows Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.

 

[VikingRaider]

That is a bogus claim, one which has no basis of validity whatsoever. When one kingdom conquers another, what basis would there be to "purchase the property"?

Because Islam doesn't allow you to take over a church or other people's prayer house .That's why ottomans bought it .

Muslim empires were much more tolerant than others .

 

[Bengal71]

Turning Hagia Sophia into Mosque is a very bad act. It created an unnecessary bitterness between Muslims and Christians. Turks should have respected the feeling of global Christians. This is an act of displaying arrogant Islamo-supramacism. This act is certainly not good for fostering intra-religious harmony and solidarity.

If it was looked at in isolation. But things don't happen in a vaccuum you know. Mosques in Spain have been turned in to churches, the Israelis are continuing to annex Palestinian territories, embassies of Christian countries have been moved to Jerusalem without Christians respecting the feelings of Muslims. So don't be a softie and care about the feelings of Christians. Besides Hagia Sofia was the personal property of Sultan Muhammad Al Fateh, he purchased it and made it into a Waqf property.

Thank God, there is no 'Ummah' passport, else I'd have to jump off the roof.


All Bangladeshi Ummah Fanboys will meet their ummah once they're 6 feet under.



Many people are crying when Israelis are killing Palestinians but they shed a tear when the millions of poor starve in our countries.

Meanwhile, Palestinians live in better conditions than our shitholes and party in nightclubs in Ramallah.

no 'ummah' passport? I thought you were cheering for your arab brethren? No?

Because it's short of saying Jesus is God himself. And there are no mosques dedicated to Jesus or in the name of Christ that I am aware of.

You are ignorant about that. Jesus and Moses (Peace be upon them) are Prophets of Islam. They were given scriptures and spread the message of monotheism. It's totally normal to name mosques in their names.

 

[Mirzah]

Churches are already empty with Christians not attending them

Some might have a problem. A great majority won't have any issue



Mosques are for one God

We don't build mosques dedicated to anyone

I see more harm than good in this move. hagia sofia has great religious and cultural significance for eastern orthodox Christians like russians, greeks, serbians, this will cause problems for Turkey's relations with these countries. EU wont be happy either. And Israel will use this to convert Al Aqsa Mosque to jewish temple. How can we stop israel from doing the same now with unified Christian support?

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

The point was both historic religious sites/tourist spot will used for prayer of completely different religions instead of their original purpose. So if anyone supports converting a church into mosque while complaining about Babri mosque it would be hypocrisy. Even if India converted Babri mosque into temple like Hagia Sophia no Muslim would've liked it either.

The proper Islamic view.

Turning Hagia Sophia into Mosque is a very bad act. It created an unnecessary bitterness between Muslims and Christians. Turks should have respected the feeling of global Christians. This is an act of displaying arrogant Islamo-supramacism. This act is certainly not good for fostering intra-religious harmony and solidarity.

Orthodox Christians will never be satisfied until Muslims are kicked out of Anatolia.

Indian Hindus will never be satisfied until Muslims are kicked out of the Subcontinent and Pakistan, Afghanistan.

I see more harm than good in this move. hagia sofia has great religious and cultural significance for eastern orthodox Christians like russians, greeks, serbians, this will cause problems for Turkey's relations with these countries. EU wont be happy either. And Israel will use this to convert Al Aqsa Mosque to jewish temple. How can we stop israel from doing the same now with unified Christian support?

All that will happen and is going to happen regardless of what we do.

We should not fear anyone, when doing the correct thing.

 

[313ghazi]

That is a bogus claim, one which has no basis of validity whatsoever. When one kingdom conquers another, what basis would there be to "purchase the property"? Then why the heck did their idiotic self even bother to prepare for war and fight against city that was only trying to defend itself?

Hagia Sofia IS the HQ of Orthodox Christianity, not just any ordinary Church. As Muslims, we don't destroy or convert places of worship belonging to other religions. Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam did NOT do it, the Khulafa-e-Rashidun did NOT do it. And as such, no TRUE MUSLIM would give a damn if anyone else ever did it, period!!!

We Muslims must adhere to ourhe Holy Qur'an and our beloved Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. True Muslims do not follow any govt, any country, unless that govt and that country follows Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.

What did the Prophet Muhammad pbuh say about the man who did do it?

 

[VikingRaider]

Because it's short of saying Jesus is God himself. And there are no mosques dedicated to Jesus or in the name of Christ that I am aware of.

The 5 greatest prophets are called Ulul Azam in Islam .
They are,
Muhammad (pbuh ) , Abraham ( pbuh ) , Moses (pbuh) , Jesus ( pbuh) , and Noah (pbuh) .

 

[Imran Khan]

How he can pay while Muslims aren't allowed to sell Masjid? Indian Ulema surely fear Modi so remain silent .Don't be an idiot when writing messages. "Hagia Sophia" was a Masjid before and later it was turned to museum.

Really now apply same on sophiya how can orthodocs sale a church ? Dont be an idiot when comment on other religions .you think only muslims love thier religois places . Sophiya was a church before anything .until misloms occupy it.

 

[VikingRaider]

Really now apply same on sophiya how can oethodocs sale a church ?

Other than just ranting ,try to use search engine named google and learn that selling church building is not prohibited in Christianity.

Dont be an idiot when comment on other religions .you think only muslims love thier religois places . Sophiya was a church before anything .until misloms occupy it.

PS : If you own a church building and want to sell it , you can contact them ,I just found something for you .

https://propertycashin.com/sell/church/
There should be more like this ,but you have to find them by yourself. Do your homework,help yourself.

@Imran Khan

 

[Nike]

Guardian of Hagha Sophia, acknowledge by Erdogan himself and had met Obama

 

[Imran Khan]

Other than just ranting ,try to use search engine named google and learn that selling church building is not prohibited in Christianity.



PS : If you own a church building and want to sell it , you can contact them ,I just found something for you .

https://propertycashin.com/sell/church/
There should be more like this ,but you have to find them by yourself. Do your homework,help yourself.

@Imran Khan

We are talking 700 yers ago and they are orthodocs for god sake .
Dont tell me they sale chirch hapily and buy iphone

 

[Areesh]

That is a bogus claim, one which has no basis of validity whatsoever. When one kingdom conquers another, what basis would there be to "purchase the property"? Then why the heck did their idiotic self even bother to prepare for war and fight against city that was only trying to defend itself?

Hagia Sofia IS the HQ of Orthodox Christianity, not just any ordinary Church. As Muslims, we don't destroy or convert places of worship belonging to other religions. Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam did NOT do it, the Khulafa-e-Rashidun did NOT do it. And as such, no TRUE MUSLIM would give a damn if anyone else ever did it, period!!!

We Muslims must adhere to ourhe Holy Qur'an and our beloved Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam. True Muslims do not follow any govt, any country, unless that govt and that country follows Prophet Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.

You were answered on this topic on another thread and you failed to answer there

Now you are starting this nonsense again

Do you want us to answer everytime the same thing?

This is NOT Islam

Followers of Imran Hossain should be the last to teach us about Islam

You can love your orthodox Christians friends all you want to but that won't stop Muslims from doing the right thing

 

[Cookie Monster]

Oh, I didn't dispute that, just the old church which was dedicated to Jesus, interesting they kept the name all along.

In Islam, Jesus(PBUH) is highly regarded and respected...just like all the other Prophets. It should come as no surprise that the name was kept.

 

[VikingRaider]

We are talking 700 yers ago and they are orthodocs for god sake .
Dont tell me they sale chirch hapily and buy iphone

They sold church so that they can make another one in another place . What's the big deal here if it's not prohibited in Christianity?

By the way what do you mean by "They are orthodox" ?
There is no hardline sector named orthodox sector in Christianity unlike orthodox Judaism .

Practically all Christian sectors are orthodox other than some new era churches who validate gay marriage !

In reality modern day Christianity has three sector and they are Catholic, Protestant ( with many sub divisions) and orthodox . But be sure ,this orthodox is not like orthodox Judaism ,its just nominally a branch to separate them from others . Besides, the official name of Eastern orthodox church is Orthodox Catholic church .

But this orthodoxy is not like orthodox Judasim who are very strict in religious practice .

Historically Roman Catholic church ( vatican ) was more orthodox aka conservative than orthodox Eastern church itself .

Ever hard something named fourth crusade ? This was between catholic ( crusader) and orthodox . Ayyubid sultanate was ally of orthodox Byzantine empire in the crusade .

In the history of crusade ,no crusade happened between orthodox Christians and Muslims, but all crusaders belong to catholic church .

So don't jump to conclusion just by knowing the word orthodox Christianity . As they always were less orthodox (conservative ) than Catholic church historically and that time Christianity was divided only in 2 branch and that is Roman Catholic church aka western Christianity and Eastern Christianity.

However there are another type of orthodoxy called oriental orthodoxy and they aren't considered orthodoxy by Eastern churches because of their different belief regarding the divinity of Jesus Christ . Read about council of chalcedon. But that's different argument.

So never be fooled by the word orthodoxy when the case is Christianity . Every branch is Orthodox aka strictly conservative.

@Imran Khan
Take a look here to learn the differences in short .
http://christianityinview.com/comparison.html