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Solid Tank, Solid Price: Will China's VT-4 Outsell America's Abrams Tank?
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ey Point: The VT-4 gets the job done and doesn't break the bank. But if a country wants top-of-the-line and doesn't mind spending, then the M1 Abrams is the way to go.

While China’s primary tank is the ZTZ-99, its military industry (in the Western tradition) has also developed completely original designs for export. One of the designs that’s achieved considerable success is the VT-4, which has been recently adopted in significant numbers by the Royal Thai Army. The VT-4 is China’s premier export tank, built on technology and designs behind the earlier Al-Khalid tank that was built with cooperation from Pakistan and Ukraine. But how does the VT-4’s technology stack up against Russia’s T-90S, America’s M1 Abrams export models or the Leopard 2?

This first appeared in 2019 and is being reposted due to reader interest.

The VT-4’s roots are in the Al-Khalid tank developed in the 1990s. The Al-Khalid tank was largely built with mostly Chinese and Pakistani technology, but a sore spot for the Chinese designers was their lack of ability to provide a power plant for the tank. The engines for the tank had to be sourced from Germany or Ukraine. Ukraine ended up providing the production run for the Al-Khalid tank. As a result, the VT-4 program’s primary objective when it began in 2009 was to build an indigenous power plant for future domestic and export tanks. Due to the success of this engine development program, many VT-4 marketing materials tout the reliability and performance of its engine.
The Thai decision to acquire the VT-4 was a result of Ukraine’s failure to deliver T-84 Oplots on schedule. Originally, the decision was between the T-90S and the T-84 Oplot, but American diplomatic pressure resulted in the selection of the T-84 over the T-90S. However, due to various problems and the war in Ukraine, Ukraine has delivered the ordered T-84s at a slow rate. Thus, a program was initiated in 2016 to select another modern tank to take the place of the T-84. The new contenders were the Chinese VT-4 and the Russian T-90MS. Again, the post-coup Thai government’s pivot towards China and waning Russian influence in the region resulted in the selection of the VT-4 over the T-90, despite the T-90’s greater export success and the VT-4 being an unproven design. The Thai contract is the first adoption of the VT-4.

The VT-4 uses 125-millimeter Chinese BT-4 ammunition. BT-4 is the export designation for the DTW125 round, a last-generation Chinese APFSDS round with a tungsten penetrator, which is rated at seven hundred millimeters of RHA penetration at two kilometers. A new round is also in development for the export market based on technology from the current generation DTC125 round (which is rumored to penetrate 750 millimeters at the same range). While 125 millimeters is the standard caliber, the VT-4 may also be exported with a 120-millimeter gun upon a customer’s request. A 140-millimeter cannon was once considered for the VT-4 and future Chinese domestic tanks, but it is currently shelved in favor of research into better ammunition or ETC technology. The VT-4’s autoloader is also practically identical to those found in the T-72 series of tanks, with horizontal ammo stowage around the turret floor (this can be seen as the autoloader uses a hoist system in the picture, similar to the hoist system of the T-72, illustrated here). The VT-4 in Thai service is also compatible with Ukrainian ammunition, including the gun-launched ATGMs. While the original designer of the VT-4 didn’t see the need for GLATGM on the VT-4, stating that the capability given by kinetic penetrators is enough for developing countries, the feature was added to Thai VT-4s in order to make use of delivered GLATGMs that came with the T-84s. The hull armor of the VT-4 is estimated to be around five to six hundred millimeters’ RHA protection without ERA, and seven to eight hundred with the ERA package. Turret armor statistics remain restricted to potential clients. Other features on the VT-4 include laser warning receivers and a fully stabilized, independent, thermal commander sight (a feature still lacking on some modern Russian tanks).
In practice, Thai tankers have complained about the ERA on the VT-4 being thinner than that of the Oplot. The Oplot’s soft-kill active-protection system design has been proven in combat (as the Ukrainian Varta system is a close clone of the Shtora system, which has proven effective in Syria), whereas the VT4’s system has not been tested at all. However, in firing drills, the VT-4’s fire control system has proven to be more accurate than the Oplot’s.

While the capabilities of the VT-4 are not revolutionary in any way (unlike some claims from Norinco), it is a solid tank for its price, that will likely have good support from the manufacturing base in China. Survivability wise, it has the same potential issues of the T-72 and T-90 series due to the same ammo layout. While the gun performance is unlikely to be on the same level as the latest American, Chinese or Russian guns, due to being based on last-generation round technology, it should be enough to counter most armored threats that aren’t top tier. As such, the VT-4 is likely to be a popular export to nations without the budget or political connections to Russia, Europe or the United States, as a “good enough” tank. Then again, similar things were said about the Stingray light tank, for which the Royal Thai Army is also the only user.
 
Chinese VT4 tank fitted with FY-IV ERA Explosive Reactive Armour against Tandem Warhead ammunition


According to new pictures published on April 22, 2020, to the China Defense Blog, the latest version of Chinese-made Main Battle Tank (MBT) VT4 is now protected with new armor ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor) Level FY-4 providing protection against Tandem Warhead ammunition. According to our previous analysis, the first version of the VT-4 MBT was fitted with ERA level FY-2.

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The VT4 MBT (Main Battle Tank) is now in service with four armed forces in the world including China, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Thailand. The VT4 also called MBT-3000 is a third-generation Main Battle Tank (MBT) designed, developed and manufactured in China by NORINCO (China North Industries Corporation).

The VT4 MBT was unveiled by the Chinese defense industry in November 2019 during the China International Aviation & Aerospace or Zhuhai AirShow. The layout of this tank is very similar to the Russian tank with a crew of three including driver, commander and gunner and the use of an automatic loading system for the main armament.

The main armament of the VT4 / MBT-3000 consists of a 125 mm smoothbore gun fitted with a thermal sleeve and fume extractor. It is fed by an automatic loader that holds a total of 22 projectiles and charges which can be loaded at the rate of eight per minute. One 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun is mounted to the right of the main armament, while on the commander's cupola is mounted a remote weapon station armed with a 12.7mm heavy machine gun that can be used to engage ground and aerial targets.

The hull and turret of the VT4 are of welded steel construction with a layer of composite armor over the front arc. The first version of the tank was fitted with additional ERA (Explosive Reactive armor) Level FY-2 providing protection against HEAT (High-Explosive Anti-Tank) and APFSDS (Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot) ammunition. According to the latest pictures released on the Internet, the latest variant of the VT4 is now fitted at the front of the hull with ERA armor Level FY-4 providing protection against Tandem Warhead.

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Close view of the ERA armor Level FY-IV mounted at the front of the VT4 main battle tank (Picture source China Defense Blog)


Currently, China produces four Level of ERA armour including the FY-I with protection against HEAT ammunition, the FY-II with protection against HEAT, APFSDS ammunition, the FY-III with protection against HEAT, APFSDS and tandem warhead ammunition and the FY-IV providing protection against HEAT, APFSDS and tandem warhead ammunition but with 85 mm thick armour blocks for the FY-IV and only 75 mm for Level III. The ERA armour consists of steel blocks with C4 explosives inside.

Reactive armour is a type of vehicle armour that reacts in some way to the impact of a weapon to reduce the damage done to the vehicle being protected. It is most effective in protecting against shaped charges and specially hardened kinetic energy penetrators. The most common type is explosive reactive armour (ERA), but variants include self-limiting explosive reactive armour (SLERA), non-energetic reactive armour (NERA), non-explosive reactive armour (NxRA), and electric reactive armour.

A high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead is a type of shaped charge explosive that uses the Munroe effect to penetrate thick tank armor. Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS) is a type of kinetic energy penetrator ammunition used to attack modern vehicle armour. As an armament for main battle tanks, it succeeds armour-piercing discarding sabot (APDS) ammunition, which is still used in small or medium caliber weapon systems.

Tandem warheads are effective against reactive armour, which is designed to protect an armoured vehicle (mostly tanks) against anti-tank ammunition, missiles and rocket. The first stage of the weapon is typically a weak charge that either pierces the reactive armour of the target without detonating it leaving a channel through the reactive armour so that the second warhead may pass unimpeded, or simply detonating the armour plates causing the timing of the counter-explosion to fail. The second detonation from the same projectile attacks the same location as the first detonation where the reactive armour has been compromised. Since the regular armour plating is often the only defence remaining, the main charge (second detonation) has an increased likelihood of penetrating the armour.

China Starts Delivering VT4 Battle Tanks to Pak Army
2 days ago Darakhshan Anjum
VT4-battle-1024x576.jpg


China has begun delivering new VT4 main battle tanks (MBTs) to Pakistan. A subsidiary of China North Industries Group Corporation (NORINCO), Inner Mongolia First Machinery Group Co. Ltd. held a shipment ceremony in a tank factory located in Baotou, Mongolia for a foreign customer
The first batch of VT4 MBTs which is equipped with explosive reactive armor (ERA) (Option FY-IV) is in the process of being delivered to the Pak Army.
Pakistan Army Armored Corps decided to acquire almost 1000 VT4 tanks from NORINCO to meet its needs.
The VT4 MBT is an upgraded version of Al-Khalid MBT which is also known as MBT-2000. It is offered for export by NORINCO with the same 125 mm main gun, carousel auto-loader, and crew configuration.

Furthermore, it is pertinent to mention here that the company also delivered the first shipment of 17 military vehicles to the Nigerian Army. It also included ST1 tank, SH5 105mm wheeled self-propelled howitzers and VT4 MBTs.
 
Chinese VT4 tank fitted with FY-IV ERA Explosive Reactive Armour against Tandem Warhead ammunition


According to new pictures published on April 22, 2020, to the China Defense Blog, the latest version of Chinese-made Main Battle Tank (MBT) VT4 is now protected with new armor ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor) Level FY-4 providing protection against Tandem Warhead ammunition. According to our previous analysis, the first version of the VT-4 MBT was fitted with ERA level FY-2.

Chinese_VT4_tanks_fitted_with_FY-IV_ERA_Explosive_Reactive_Armour_against_Tandem_Warhead_ammunition_925_001.jpg


The VT4 MBT (Main Battle Tank) is now in service with four armed forces in the world including China, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Thailand. The VT4 also called MBT-3000 is a third-generation Main Battle Tank (MBT) designed, developed and manufactured in China by NORINCO (China North Industries Corporation).

The VT4 MBT was unveiled by the Chinese defense industry in November 2019 during the China International Aviation & Aerospace or Zhuhai AirShow. The layout of this tank is very similar to the Russian tank with a crew of three including driver, commander and gunner and the use of an automatic loading system for the main armament.

The main armament of the VT4 / MBT-3000 consists of a 125 mm smoothbore gun fitted with a thermal sleeve and fume extractor. It is fed by an automatic loader that holds a total of 22 projectiles and charges which can be loaded at the rate of eight per minute. One 7.62 mm coaxial machine gun is mounted to the right of the main armament, while on the commander's cupola is mounted a remote weapon station armed with a 12.7mm heavy machine gun that can be used to engage ground and aerial targets.

The hull and turret of the VT4 are of welded steel construction with a layer of composite armor over the front arc. The first version of the tank was fitted with additional ERA (Explosive Reactive armor) Level FY-2 providing protection against HEAT (High-Explosive Anti-Tank) and APFSDS (Armour-Piercing Fin-Stabilized Discarding Sabot) ammunition. According to the latest pictures released on the Internet, the latest variant of the VT4 is now fitted at the front of the hull with ERA armor Level FY-4 providing protection against Tandem Warhead.

Chinese_VT4_tanks_fitted_with_FY-IV_ERA_Explosive_Reactive_Armour_against_Tandem_Warhead_ammunition_925_002.jpg

Close view of the ERA armor Level FY-IV mounted at the front of the VT4 main battle tank (Picture source China Defense Blog)


Currently, China produces four Level of ERA armour including the FY-I with protection against HEAT ammunition, the FY-II with protection against HEAT, APFSDS ammunition, the FY-III with protection against HEAT, APFSDS and tandem warhead ammunition and the FY-IV providing protection against HEAT, APFSDS and tandem warhead ammunition but with 85 mm thick armour blocks for the FY-IV and only 75 mm for Level III. The ERA armour consists of steel blocks with C4 explosives inside.

Reactive armour is a type of vehicle armour that reacts in some way to the impact of a weapon to reduce the damage done to the vehicle being protected. It is most effective in protecting against shaped charges and specially hardened kinetic energy penetrators. The most common type is explosive reactive armour (ERA), but variants include self-limiting explosive reactive armour (SLERA), non-energetic reactive armour (NERA), non-explosive reactive armour (NxRA), and electric reactive armour.

A high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warhead is a type of shaped charge explosive that uses the Munroe effect to penetrate thick tank armor. Armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS) is a type of kinetic energy penetrator ammunition used to attack modern vehicle armour. As an armament for main battle tanks, it succeeds armour-piercing discarding sabot (APDS) ammunition, which is still used in small or medium caliber weapon systems.

Tandem warheads are effective against reactive armour, which is designed to protect an armoured vehicle (mostly tanks) against anti-tank ammunition, missiles and rocket. The first stage of the weapon is typically a weak charge that either pierces the reactive armour of the target without detonating it leaving a channel through the reactive armour so that the second warhead may pass unimpeded, or simply detonating the armour plates causing the timing of the counter-explosion to fail. The second detonation from the same projectile attacks the same location as the first detonation where the reactive armour has been compromised. Since the regular armour plating is often the only defence remaining, the main charge (second detonation) has an increased likelihood of penetrating the armour.

China Starts Delivering VT4 Battle Tanks to Pak Army
2 days ago Darakhshan Anjum
VT4-battle-1024x576.jpg


China has begun delivering new VT4 main battle tanks (MBTs) to Pakistan. A subsidiary of China North Industries Group Corporation (NORINCO), Inner Mongolia First Machinery Group Co. Ltd. held a shipment ceremony in a tank factory located in Baotou, Mongolia for a foreign customer
The first batch of VT4 MBTs which is equipped with explosive reactive armor (ERA) (Option FY-IV) is in the process of being delivered to the Pak Army.
Pakistan Army Armored Corps decided to acquire almost 1000 VT4 tanks from NORINCO to meet its needs.
The VT4 MBT is an upgraded version of Al-Khalid MBT which is also known as MBT-2000. It is offered for export by NORINCO with the same 125 mm main gun, carousel auto-loader, and crew configuration.

Furthermore, it is pertinent to mention here that the company also delivered the first shipment of 17 military vehicles to the Nigerian Army. It also included ST1 tank, SH5 105mm wheeled self-propelled howitzers and VT4 MBTs.

Would this come as Alkhalid 2 or Al haider series.
 
Vt4 and khalid are almost similar. I guess VT4 is better. Its has type 99 configuration.
They are not the same. Engine, engine transmission, , fire control. Gears.. Even gun. All those are not interchange nor about to fix swap in. PA pick VT-4 becos it really gives PA another level up compare to AK 1.
 
They are not the same. Engine, engine transmission, , fire control. Gears.. Even gun. All those are not interchange nor about to fix swap in. PA pick VT-4 becos it really gives PA another level up compare to AK 1.

You know very well that there are plenty of knowledgeable members here would disagree with your statement of VT-4 being better than AK 1. In fact, there is lots of opposition against VT-4 as it does not bring anything substantially better than AK except 'numbers'.
 
You know very well that there are plenty of knowledgeable members here would disagree with your statement of VT-4 being better than AK 1. In fact, there is lots of opposition against VT-4 as it does not bring anything substantially better than AK except 'numbers'.
Knowledgeable members? Like how bragging how they have insider information , they know what PA will procure but end up is nothing but lies. Now u are the one telling me, they know VT-4 better than me? I know my source from China. And VT-4 is made by China. So you think who is more reliable regards to spec and what VT-4 can do?
 
UpGraded AK.

Point being that although VT-4 is close to Type-90-II and thus close to AK series in many ways, its imperative that Pakistan sticks to local production of AK series and further works ahead on AK-II, bringing AK-II from design board onto trials.

Iran Karrar MBT looks like T-90 and Zulfiqar III looks like Abrams. But looking similar doesnt mean they have similar capabilities. Similarly, VT-4 may seem the best choice looking at AK series, VT-4 and AK are so far, lighter than European and American MBTs. Pakistan should move towards Altay type design for future tanks. I do agree that AK/VT-4 and T-99 have good designs and Pakistan operates T-series of Russian and Chinese origin since 1960s, but its 2020 now and western designs and concepts should be welcomed, not just electronics.

Other than money, do you see any reason why PA didn't go for Altay?
 
Knowledge? Like how bragging how they have insider information , they know what PA will procure but end up is nothing but lies. Now u are the one telling me, they know VT-4 better than me? I know my source from China. And VT-4 is made by China. So you think who is more reliable regards to spec and what VT-4 can do?

I would say You probably know more about VT-4 then anyone else here. But then those guys know more about AK then anyone else here. It's a never ending argument as to what is better.
Anyways, are you confident that the issues in VT-4 during the desert trials have been taken care of? Also, How does VT-4 compare with Altay?
 
I would say You probably know more about VT-4 then anyone else here. But then those guys know more about AK then anyone else here. It's a never ending argument as to what is better.
Anyways, are you confident that the issues in VT-4 during the desert trials have been taken care of? Also, How does VT-4 compare with Altay?
I am not sure of Altay but I do know the program is now halt due to engine issue again. Germany ban export of the tank engine to turkey and domestic engine of meeting 1500HP is still far away. The weight is also another big issue. At 65 tons, it is grossly overweight for Pakistan terrain. And being heavier do not mean it has thicker armour than VT-4. It is heavier becos of extra space needed for the 4th crew.
VT-4 with autoloader will reduces fatigue and extra weight needed. This means the mobility of VT-4 is very good despite having a 1300hp engine only.
Fire control stability is also excellent. There are many demonstration of VT-4 gun stabilizer even on the off road move. I will say far better than western MBT.
 
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