Pakistan Army's VT-4 Main Battle Tank | Updates & Discussions

[Dazzler]

You are right dear, maintenance issues especially of airframes are there. But then, in anti-armr role you always fly using nap-of-the-earth tactics, even AH-64 Apache uses the same tactics, keeping below the horizon while using its Longbow radar.

High altitude for attack helis means they can be shot down from miles away. Therefore, altitude isnt a problem.

Our AH1s are configured for both BGM-71 and BSWS.



The reason we arent going primarily on a SPAAG route is that their guns offer ranges of max 4-5 Kms nowadays besides high rate of ammo expenditure and accuracy. In the era of standoff threat there is a need of system able to counter stand off threat with guidance system, therefore missiles are preferred which are having 1 or more guidance system

We have got PANTSIR for the reason that it is a hybrid system, it has 12 missiles on one vehicle with a range of 20 Kms and radio command guidance , the guns are secondary weapons with range of 4 Kms. Even in PANTSIR for firing of guns the system needs to be stopped and jacks lowered. However for missiles, it can fire while moving.

Don't mind but you had to reveal this?

 

[PanzerKiel]

Don't mind but you had to reveal this?

This whole info in available on internet.

 

[Dazzler]

Ukraine has no. Of su-25 in their storage. We can get em cheaply.

Su25s are maintenance Hogs man

This whole info in available on internet.

Yes info is there but you confirmed it.

 

[PanzerKiel]

Don't mind but you had to reveal this?

Su25s are maintenance Hogs man



Yes info is there but you confirmed it.

The info which I've given is just like any other info on internet, with some cushion of inaccuracy in it as well.

 

[Tipu7]

The info which I've given is just like any other info on internet, with some cushion of inaccuracy in it as well.

The VT4 storm is yet to set, and here you are creating a new one.
These storms should come periodically not simultaneously.

 

[PanzerKiel]

The VT4 storm is yet to set, and here you are creating a new one.
These storms should come periodically not simultaneously.

Alright then. I'll delay the storms.

 

[Tipu7]

Alright then. I'll delay the storms.

Yeah for a bit. It might create a bad impression.
Number of people believing that Army is spending a lot on defense products despite of shortage of money for COVID-19, is increasing. There are even gems who want to sell off Pakistan existing military arsenal for sake of buying more ventilators.

 

[PanzerKiel]

Yeah for a bit. It might create a bad impression.
Number of people believing that Army is spending a lot on defense products despite of shortage of money for COVID-19, is increasing. There are even gems who want to sell of Pakistan existing arsenal for sake of buying more ventilators.

Yeah I've read the tweets. Anyways, these people otherwise don't let any opportunity go waste of maligning Pakistan, Covid-19 not.

 

[waz]

Just a general note please stick to discussing the VT-4.
We've had CAS, air defence, helicopter procuring etc.
It's all related but people will just get lost and a good thread just goes in every direction.

 

[Affanakad0t.]

You are right dear, maintenance issues especially of airframes are there. But then, in anti-armr role you always fly using nap-of-the-earth tactics, even AH-64 Apache uses the same tactics, keeping below the horizon while using its Longbow radar.

High altitude for attack helis means they can be shot down from miles away. Therefore, altitude isnt a problem.

Our AH1s are configured for both BGM-71 and BSWS.



The reason we arent going primarily on a SPAAG route is that their guns offer ranges of max 4-5 Kms nowadays besides high rate of ammo expenditure and accuracy. In the era of standoff threat there is a need of system able to counter stand off threat with guidance system, therefore missiles are preferred which are having 1 or more guidance system

We have got PANTSIR for the reason that it is a hybrid system, it has 12 missiles on one vehicle with a range of 20 Kms and radio command guidance , the guns are secondary weapons with range of 4 Kms. Even in PANTSIR for firing of guns the system needs to be stopped and jacks lowered. However for missiles, it can fire while moving.

We have pantsir??

 

[Akh1112]

We have pantsir??

No we do not.

 

[Sine Nomine]

@AgNoStiC MuSliM it's about time,that thread should be made sticky and title changed to appropriate one.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

@AgNoStiC MuSliM it's about time,that thread should be made sticky and title changed to appropriate one.

It's supposed to be a VT-4 thread, correct?

Suggestions on a better thread title?

I'll delete these posts after their conclusion.

We have pantsir??

As Waz said, let's stick to the primary topic.

I understand that @PanzerKiel has been extremely forthcoming and helpful in answering a wide variety of questions, but perhaps questions on issues other than the VT-4 can be asked by tagging him in the relevant thread (pretty sure we have a bunch of Pantsir threads).

 

[Sine Nomine]

It's supposed to be a VT-4 thread, correct?

Suggestions on a better thread title?

I'll delete these posts after their conclusion.

VT-4 Main Battle Tank Information Pool

 

[IblinI]

VT-4 Main Battle Tank Information Pool

Maybe we should do that once its first pic revealed after it arrives Pakistan.