Pakistan Army's T-129 ATAK Helicopter Deal | Updates & Discussions.

[madmusti]

Turkish Airwolf

 

[MuZammiL Dr. s[1]n]

To make some sense, Think more about sanctions. If Pakistan really worries about Western sanctions to be applied for future, Why Pakistani officials have already been pouring billion $ on Western products instead of directly look for equivalents in China ? I am talking about complete products which all intellectual and property rights of the whole design and sub-systems belongs to sole Western countries and USA such as F-16 Block30, Block 50+, Aspide SAM, UAV's, ERIEYE AWACS and more. There are also some future tenders which will be opened for which the institutes from Western countries will participate. If The likely sanctions are so crucial proceeding ahead of system quality, cost-effectivity, competability..etc, Close all tenders, cut all relations with West and just open all sources to China...

About T-129, Current WZ-10 with domestic shaft engine can't be on par with T-129 Atak A/B. With more powerfull domestic engine China is developing, The both attack helicopter would be reached similar hot/high performances but Reliability of copter will remain a big question for WZ-10 which will use a new developed engine under many difficulties and a proven one T-129 uses.

T-129's LHTEC 800A is one of the best engine which is developed for USA famous Commanche helicopter. Many parts of this engine are being manufactured by Turkish institutes in Turkey...

PakisTan's p.m. nawaz sharif is coming to turkey on official visit so is there any thing being cooked up regarding the t-129 atak deal between the 2 brotherly countries ?

 

[revojam]

PakisTan's p.m. nawaz sharif is coming to turkey on official visit so is there any thing being cooked up regarding the t-129 atak deal between the 2 brotherly countries ?

Nothing new as far as we know.

 

[Edevelop]

ANKARA - Pakistan and Turkey are expected to expand their cooperation in defence production and Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif will discuss the possibility of joint production of fighter helicopters with his Turkish counterpart Tayyip Erdogan.

Soon after his arrival in Ankara on a three-day official visit to Turkey, Premier Nawaz would undertake a visit to Turkish Aerospace Industries to witness demonstration of T-129 Advance Attack and Tactical Reconnaissance Helicopters.

If an understanding is reached, an MoU would be signed and later a high-ranking team of Pakistan Air Force comprising experts from Kamra Re-build Factory would undertake a visit to Ankara to look into the technical details involved in joint production of these helicopters.

Pakistan and Turkey are already cooperating in different fields of defence production and training of each others’ military personnel. But, Pakistan desperately needs such helicopters to enhance its capability to carry out operations in Fata region to target terrorist hideouts.

T-129 is the result of the integration of nationally developed avionics and weapon systems by Turkey on to the combat proven Agusta Westland A-129 airframe, with upgraded engines, transmission and rotor blades. This helicopter is designed to meet the demanding requirements of armed forces. Optimised for “hot & high” environments and having considerable fire-power, T-129 is the most efficient Attack Helicopter in its class.

T-129 in fact has two versions. T-129A is the “combat support” version capable of carrying 500 ea 20mm gun rounds and up to 76 guided or unguided 2.75” rockets. T-129B is the “multi-role” version equipped with the leading edge electronic warfare systems and capable to carry a payload of 8 anti-tank missiles, 12 guided 2.75” rockets, 2 air-to-air missiles and 500 rounds, simultaneously.

Pak-Turkish pact on combat copters on cards

 

[RAMPAGE]

Seriously ????????

 

[Kompromat]

JV seems like blowing the smoke,however we do need these choppers.

 

[Gentelman]

Well Pakistan Army aviation really needs attack helos and they i guess will also modify it for personnal carrying helos with machine gun……
Well i guess its too early to start guessing first let MOU signed.
but it proves Pakistan serious intrest in helos industry and aquiring helis tech……

 

[gangsta_rap]

MoU to be signed soon!??!

Yeaaaaaa buddyyyyy!!

 

[A1Kaid]

Let's wait and see until agreement is signed and development begins...

 

[Zarvan]

JV seems like blowing the smoke,however we do need these choppers.

Sir first few meetings of Forces chiefs with Nawaz were quite important Sir we just took them as normal meetings they were for future defense deals because Armed Forces can't wait any more Sir they need weapons Sir that is one of the reason the highest General Wyne went to China

 

[tarrar]

Would be good for Pak Army if the deal takes place. Pak Army needs good armed helis plus they also need armed drones to reduce the burden off Pak Army. I don't think Turkey is having armed drone but they do have a very good looking Drone TAI.

 

[fatman17]

there seem to be 2 issues with this report.
1. combat helos are operated by army. there is no mention of army.
2. i can understand why PAF officials would visit turkey as kamra is the only production facility where these helos can be assembled / co-produced.
3. if a deal is made, would a NOC from the US be forthcoming for the engine?

 

[Tehmasib]

 

[Edevelop]

We never gave much importance to Attack Helios. But due to geopolitics, where now the warfare tactics are changed to fighting proxies in the form of Militants, these assets are more valuable than anything. Pakistan must try to seek TOT and that someone cannot be U.S or Europeans as with time we have come to conclusion that they have been nothing but more problem for us. They gIve us second hand and on top of that hundreds of conditions. Realistically its China and Turkey who are Pakistan's top allies. Whether its the WZ series or the T-129, they are far better than our existing fleet of AH Cobras

 

[MilSpec]

AH1Z are better cost effective options, they come almost free of cost out of the US wot fund by the means of Excess Defense Articles Program....