Pakistan Army Officially Inducted LY-80 MR-SAM System

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

I think the arrival of the advanced Chinese staffs are directly related to the progress in CPEC. And, the Indians know it and ,hence, they're hell bound to perturb it. But, it'll be all futile...

 

[NakedLunch]

The LY80 version tailor made for Pakistan has 50KM range.

Only our Chinese friends and allies would do that for us.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Excellent addition to Pakistan's defence. Once again the Chinese come good for Pakistan.



One of the thing that excites me about whenever China produces a new weapon system is that in most cases with very few exceptions, Pakistan will eventually be in a position to access that technology. This relationship we have with China will always stand us in good stead when dealing with our adversaries. The other thing is, Pakistan, like any other country, has deals which are secret and never made public. Imagine what else Pakistan has received from China but will never declare or declare in a staggered way.

And, this makes India mad for all the money they spend after all come to zilch vis-a-vis Pak. Hence, surgical strikes by "Hanuman" or putting proxy BD leaders into foul-mouth or trying to fight with the "Last Afgan". Indians love their money but it's not buying them the leverage - that's the issue....

 

[NakedLunch]

And, this makes India mad for all the money they spend after all come to zilch vis-a-vis Pak. Hence, surgical strikes by "Hanuman" or putting proxy BD leaders into foul-mouth or trying to fight with the "Last Afgan". Indians love their money but it's not buying them the leverage - that's the issue....

Brother, we look forward to the day when Pakistan and Turkey can field an Army that can defend the Muslim world.We need leadership and Turkey can give that to us. Lead us, like you used to. Inshallah.

 

[Readerdefence]

As early as 2006, the Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology (SAST), a designer of HQ-16 and a subsidiary of the Chinese aerospace group CASC, embarked on pre-studies of two improved versions of HQ-16 - one for the navy that became the HQ-16C after the 12th Five-Year Plan, and the other for the HQ-16B Army.

The biggest change on this new version Ground-Air is concerning its guidance. The former semi-active radar guidance mode (SARH) is now replaced by a more semi-active active mixed guidance.

When the HQ-16A radar tracking and firing line can only ensure a range of about 30km, the new dual-mode of HQ-16B should extend its range, which is now estimated at more than 50km.


NewHQ 16B with extended range of 50km entered service. From Henri K
http://www.eastpendulum.com/nouveau-sam-hq-16b-entre-service

Pakistan was showing interest in Aster 30 and as for HQ-9 I think it would come soon if it's not already here. Pakistan was also looking for both Naval and Land version of latest South African system

It's been offered to Iraq last November with T99 tanks
I'm pretty much sure that if Pakistan is willing to buy HQ9 they can

 

[The SC]

Each system / battery has upto 4 launchers.

A system is composed of 3 batteries..

 

[Path-Finder]

Pakistan was showing interest in Aster 30 and as for HQ-9 I think it would come soon if it's not already here. Pakistan was also looking for both Naval and Land version of latest South African system

Hazrat what about HQ-17? Everyone is overlooking this system?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

Hazrat what about HQ-17? Everyone is overlooking this system?

The Pak Army is using HQ-7/FM-90 for short-range air defence coverage. I don't think we'll see any other command line-of-sight missiles (e.g. HQ-17, TorM1, etc). But a short/medium-range active-homing SAM might be a possibility in a few years. Pakistan could try the NORINCO DK-10 (derived from SD-10).

 

[Path-Finder]

The Pak Army is using HQ-7/FM-90 for short-range air defence coverage. I don't think we'll see any other command line-of-sight missiles (e.g. HQ-17, TorM1, etc). But a short/medium-range active-homing SAM might be a possibility in a few years.

ok you have a valid point. as for short/medium-range active-homing SAM could something like/equivalent to MBDA Starstreak fill that role?

 

[帅的一匹]

As early as 2006, the Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology (SAST), a designer of HQ-16 and a subsidiary of the Chinese aerospace group CASC, embarked on pre-studies of two improved versions of HQ-16 - one for the navy that became the HQ-16C after the 12th Five-Year Plan, and the other for the HQ-16B Army.

The biggest change on this new version Ground-Air is concerning its guidance. The former semi-active radar guidance mode (SARH) is now replaced by a more semi-active active mixed guidance.

When the HQ-16A radar tracking and firing line can only ensure a range of about 30km, the new dual-mode of HQ-16B should extend its range, which is now estimated at more than 50km.


NewHQ 16B with extended range of 50km entered service. From Henri K
http://www.eastpendulum.com/nouveau-sam-hq-16b-entre-service


It's been offered to Iraq last November with T99 tanks
I'm pretty much sure that if Pakistan is willing to buy HQ9 they can

It's VT4, not T99.

The Pak Army is using HQ-7/FM-90 for short-range air defence coverage. I don't think we'll see any other command line-of-sight missiles (e.g. HQ-17, TorM1, etc). But a short/medium-range active-homing SAM might be a possibility in a few years. Pakistan could try the NORINCO DK-10 (derived from SD-10).

HQ17 can move with the armour columns.

The Pak Army is using HQ-7/FM-90 for short-range air defence coverage. I don't think we'll see any other command line-of-sight missiles (e.g. HQ-17, TorM1, etc). But a short/medium-range active-homing SAM might be a possibility in a few years. Pakistan could try the NORINCO DK-10 (derived from SD-10).

Or FM3000

 

[Dil Pakistan]

And, this makes India mad for all the money they spend after all come to zilch vis-a-vis Pak. Hence, surgical strikes by "Hanuman" or putting proxy BD leaders into foul-mouth or trying to fight with the "Last Afgan". Indians love their money but it's not buying them the leverage - that's the issue....

Boss! ...reading your posts, you are a more Pakistani patriot than the Pakistanis themselves... to you.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

ok you have a valid point. as for short/medium-range active-homing SAM could something like/equivalent to MBDA Starstreak fill that role?

That's basically a laser-line-of-sight missile, essentially serves the same purpose as FM-90. What the Pakistan Army needs is a mobile all-in-one SAM+radar system like Tor or HQ-17, but with an active-homing seeker like imaging infrared or active radar. Basically a MANPAD missile paired to a small radar on the same vehicle.

It's VT4, not T99.


HQ17 can move with the armour columns.


Or FM3000

Yep.

Follow-on point about HQ-17. Its a radio command line-of-sight (CLOS) SAM guided by an AESA radar. That is actually very interesting, might actually be a good pick-up for the Pakistan Army to back armoured formations. They can try a custom version with back-up IIR SAMs attached to light armoured vehicles (but linked to the HQ-17's radar).

 

[Zarvan]

Hazrat what about HQ-17? Everyone is overlooking this system?

For other short range I see chances of HISAR from Turkey coming than this one although this is one of those systems which Russia offered to us along with two others I mean the original one made by Russia

 

[Path-Finder]

For other short range I see chances of HISAR from Turkey coming than this one although this is one of those systems which Russia offered to us along with two others I mean the original one made by Russia

The armoured column is a big target for the enemy and this system has the ability to keep armour protected from all types of threats because it can fire on the move without ever stopping while other systems need to pause becoming stationary then fire the missile that is why I brought this up. this paired with something like Pantisir/korkut will keep threats at bay!

That's basically a laser-line-of-sight missile, essentially serves the same purpose as FM-90. What the Pakistan Army needs is a mobile all-in-one SAM+radar system like Tor or HQ-17, but with an active-homing seeker like imaging infrared or active radar. Basically a MANPAD missile paired to a small radar on the same vehicle.


Yep.

Follow-on point about HQ-17. Its a radio command line-of-sight (CLOS) SAM guided by an AESA radar. That is actually very interesting, might actually be a good pick-up for the Pakistan Army to back armoured formations. They can try a custom version with back-up IIR SAMs attached to light armoured vehicles (but linked to the HQ-17's radar).

HQ-17/Tor does have optical targeting as well, a good all rounder!

 

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