Pakistan Army maybe stationed in Saudi Arabia if needed.

[Thəorətic Muslim]

the Gold Bird

2. I believe you are affirming Pakistani support(via pilots and personnel) in the Yemen border Skirmishes .. PAF pilots flew the RSAF Lightening F.53s during that engagement. If you remember, Bhutto and his "Islamic Socialism" along with his idea of the Islamic bloc with King Khalid and Gaddafi was a major bonding moment for Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

Saudis got F-35s? Man thats news to everyone.

On a serious inquiry, how does one get to edit the subtitle under their username? To say: Senior Mod, Professional, Think-tank?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Saudis got F-35s? Man thats news to everyone.

On a serious inquiry, how does one get to edit the subtitle under their username? To say: Senior Mod, Professional, Think-tank?

Nahin Yaar. Are you trying to pull his legs? you bad man. Bad bad man!

Don't expect @Oscar bhai to make that kind of mistake.

He was referreing to

"The F.53, otherwise known as the Export Lightning, developed as a private venture by BAC; while the Lighning had originated as an interception aircraft, this version was to have a multirole capability for quickly interchanging between interception, reconnaissance, and ground-attack duties.[18] The F.53 was based on the F.6 airframe and avionics, including the large ventral fuel tank, cambered wing and overwing pylons for drop tanks of the F.6, but incorporated an additional pair of hardpoints under the outer wing. These hardpoints could be fitted with pylons for air-to-ground ordnance, including two 1,000 lb (450 kg) bombs or four SNEB rocket pods each carrying 18 68 mm rockets. A gun pack carrying two ADEN cannon and 120 rounds each could replace the forward part of the ventral fuel tank.[19][nb 1]"

Do wiki to learn more

 

[SQ8]

I don't think anyone could just "stand by" with gun pointed if there is a major anti-terror operation is going on.

Think Lal khooni masjid, for a moment

Would you say that Shaheed Col. Islam was standing by while Mullahtic goons were shooting down with AK-47?

Would you?

figuratively Monseigneur.. as in they did not make the actual neutralization move. The French did.

Saudis got F-35s? Man thats news to everyone.

On a serious inquiry, how does one get to edit the subtitle under their username? To say: Senior Mod, Professional, Think-tank?

My post says Lightening F.53 right? and that is not incorrect. The Royal Saudi Airforce bought the English Electric Lightening(against the advice of the PAF which was sought in this matter) and the variant exported to Saudi Arabia is known as the F.53.

Also, the title is awarded to you based on your post quality and NOT quantity by management of this forum.

 

[FaujHistorian]

figuratively Monseigneur.. as in they did not make the actual neutralization move. The French did.

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I understand. you probably have much more specific information.

I heard about Pakistani army/commando role in 79 mosque rescue, from none other than a Saudi army officer during my visit to KSA (no it was not Makkah shrif visit but another city).


But then again it was not documented evidence and hence my hesitation to express my view with the usual "gusto" that I am known for now



one thing you must expect though, is that Pakistani commandos were already posted in the region

But I do not thing French commandos were on permanent duty in KSA

Not in the numbers that were needed to cleanse a large compound and huge building.


Again

you probably have specific info about French

and I do not

 

[SQ8]

I understand. you probably have much more specific information.

I heard about Pakistani army/commando role in 79 mosque rescue, from none other than a Saudi army officer during my visit to KSA (no it was not Makkah shrif visit but another city).


But then again it was not documented evidence and hence my hesitation to express my view with the usual "gusto" that I am known for now



one thing you must expect though, is that Pakistani commandos were already posted in the region

But I do not thing French commandos were on permanent duty in KSA

Not in the numbers that were needed to cleanse a large compound and huge building.


Again

you probably have specific info about French

and I do not

My information is based on the whole lot of denials and pooh paahs of our Fauj's role in the process. Including that book by the Russian named fellow who refutes any involvement of PA personnel in that siege. However this here has an interesting account
Pakistani involvement in the Siege of Mecca ???

4th post.

This bit is hilarious

After a week of horrendously savage combat, it was clear that the Saudis needed help. They turned to their foremost allies: the United States and the CIA. A horde of CIA operatives was quickly converted to Islam so that they could enter the Holy City to assess the battlefield for themselves

I wonder what happened there...

Saudi Fellow: "repeat after me.. La-Ila-ha.IllaLLah............."

CIA guy: "La.. umm. La.. what?"

Saudi Fellow: " Nevermind, Sounds good .. welcome to islam brother bob.. now please go inside and tell us what to do".

 

[FaujHistorian]

My information is based on the whole lot of denials and pooh paahs of our Fauj's role in the process. Including that book by the Russian named fellow who refutes any involvement of PA personnel in that siege. However this here has an interesting account
Pakistani involvement in the Siege of Mecca ???

4th post.

This bit is hilarious



I wonder what happened there...

Saudi Fellow: "repeat after me.. La-Ila-ha.IllaLLah............."

CIA guy: "La.. umm. La.. what?"

Saudi Fellow: " Nevermind, Sounds good .. welcome to islam brother bob.. now please go inside and tell us what to do".

Thanks for sharing.

post #15 shows the CIA help was limited to Americans pilots flying above.

Rest of the rumors including the role of French, CIA, and ISI are all just those. rumors

 

[SQ8]

Thanks for sharing.

post #15 shows the CIA help was limited to Americans pilots flying above.

Rest of the rumors including the role of French, CIA, and ISI are all just those. rumors

Most likely the scale may have been exaggerated a bit.. of the attackers. Causalities in Mecca.. with the crowd was expected and even a single gunman with an automatic can wreak havoc in there.

 

[asad71]

I cannot make head or tail of your comments.

It seems like mentally disturbed person went out on a tangent.

There is no relevance and you have twisted things where it appears you live in a make belief world of your own.

Thank you. I stand by my comments.Tell me what you find out of tangent and I shall try and elucidate.

 

[Pakistanisage]

1. After the Brits left PA's Karachi Bde had been tasked with the protection of oil royal families. That protection was limited only to the families/regimes where Seven Sisters (oil) were present. Pakistan had shown no interest in supporting the Arabs when the Anglo-French-Israeli forces invaded Suez in1956.In fact PM Suhrowardy had actually made pro-West statements, Pakistan then being a staunch ally of anti-Communist West. The Arabs had become anti-Pakistan only to be turned round when our Saiful Azam(Saif) had shot down couple of Israeli aircraft,1967. This task of protecting these royals eventually became a task of the Karachi Corps.

2. All these changed with the Americans launching the-so-called war on terror which Pakistani shave taken to be an American attack on Pakistan. The Arab Spring, US invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya - all supported by the oil royals but condemned by Pakistani masses, further jeopardized this project. The royals are now to be protected by IA's Southern Command,Pune.

3. Nawaz Sharif maintains intimate terms with the Saudi royals. The Americans have been beaten in Afghanistan. They are pulling out of the region. Pakistan will not like India taking over a role that is otherwise strategically important to her.

Pakistan had robust relations with Arab World during Ayub Khan's term which started in 1958. We were close to Saudi Arabia and Jordan in late 50's. King Hussain and King Faisal visited Pakistan and invited Ayub Khan to their countries in the sixties and seventies. Saif Ul Azam did not create Pakistan's relations with the Arab World. This is why I think you live in your own created world with vastly exaggerated concepts and ideas

 

[asad71]

Pakistan had robust relations with Arab World during Ayub Khan's term which started in 1958. We were close to Saudi Arabia and Jordan in late 50's. King Hussain and King Faisal visited Pakistan and invited Ayub Khan to their countries in the sixties and seventies. Saif Ul Azam did create Pakistan's relations with the Arab World. This is why I think you live in your own created world with vastly exaggerated concepts and ideas

1.The Arabs had looked at Baghdad Pact /CENTO with suspicion. King Faisal of Iraq had to bow to Arab pressure to sign out of the Baghdad Pact. With Turkey and Iran being dominant members, the Arabs took CENTO to be targeted at them.
2. The stance of Pakistan during the Suez crisis had also annoyed the Arabs. Remember the famous statement of PM Suhrowardy, "Zero plus zero is zero"? That's how the Arabs were rated at that point in time.
3. Warrior Hero Who Fought Beyond Borders and Skies of Pakistan | For Pakistan
In a noting in the Pak foreign office files, Ayub had written,"In 5mins Saiful Azam achieved what our Foreign Office failed for years. The Arabs trust us now". Instantly all misgivings about Pakistan disappeared from the Arab mind. Mothers started naming their newborn sons Saif.Roads, schools, etc have been named after him all over the Arab world.
4.Although Pakistan's relations with all Muslim nations, including the Arabs got a boost during Ayub's rule, GOP had always endeavored to foster ever closer relations with the Arabs. There was always a huge public demand for this. Let us not forget Ibn Saud was a staunch supporter of the Pakistan movement. The king had maintained a regular correspondence with Jinnah, both believing in Pan Islamism/ a Muslim renaissance. Jordan's Crown Prince Hassan was married to a Dhaka girl,Sarvat Ikramullah, Ayub going all out to organize the wedding.Iraq's King Faisal had even appointed a retired PA Col Ataullah as his Financial Adviser.Relations with Iraq saw a thaw after Karim Kassem's coup and Iraq joining the Arab socialist camp of Nasser. But relations with Iraq fostered again after Kassem's ouster. I myself taught military officers of Iraq and Jordan in a course in Pakistan in 60s. But the Arab masses began trusting Pakistan ,as Ayub had stated,only after Saif's action.

 

[alimobin memon]

Pakistan Army not deploying divisions in Saudi Arabia, say military officials | Terminal X

its not confirmed according to this source

 

[PWFI]

If pakistan is in need of money why dont ask india its not joke
India offered money when a flood in pakistan and they rejected it

Because india is itself a "bookha nagga" its not a joke.

 

[alimobin memon]

Though all these visits predict only one thing that recently in US parliament was discussed on separation of Balochistan I think we are going to war soon

 

[niaz]

Let me put an ethical question to the honourable members:

Isn’t the real purpose of presence of foreign troops especially those of Pakistan in Saudi Arabia to keep the current ruling family in power? In other words, should there be an uprising by the indigenous population against the rule by the House of Saud, Pak Army soldiers will be asked to shoot to kill Arab Muslims in support of the absolute monarchy.

To the best of knowledge oath of the Pakistan Army soldier is to protect Pakistan & her Constitution; should we be asking jawans of the Pakistan army to give their lives to keep House of Saud in power? One could say that we are asking Pak soldiers to die for someone else for ‘Money’.

Case of UN contingent is slightly different; UN troops are primarily peacekeepers and do not as a rule take sides. I am personally against that as well. Mercenary armies are nothing new but in my humble opinion ‘Secondment’ of Pakistani nationals where their life could be in danger should be strictly voluntary.

 

[SBD-3]

Pakistan Army cannot spare 2 Divns at this point of time and they shouldn't.

Active or reserves?