Pakistan army 'exercising' near border adjoining Jaisalmer

[Chanakyaa]

But if Pakistan was weak you could attack and destroy it without affecting your economy. Especially since we are at least 7× smaller than india and india has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons whereas we don't. But despite all of this, India still can't do anything to us

I guess, I told you "7 x Smaller" has been a relaity since 1971 and If India wanted to have a Military Action it will do so as Demonstrated in 1971 and 1999. So what India CAN do has ALREADY been Demonstrated in Past Years, Weather you like it or not . India DIVIDED Your nation in Two Halfs !

( Do Note 1999 Military Action was AFTER Pakistani Nuclear Tests )

The Change.. Now is the Fast Growing economy of India. Thats TRILLIONS of Dollars at Stake.

 

[DJ_Viper]

Lol......lol......lol.......WTF???????................Iraq was conventionally stronger than North Korea????????.........lol. Only in a bollywood fantasy maybe.....lol. You've just made your entire post invalid.


But if Pakistan was weak you could attack and destroy it without affecting your economy. Especially since we are at least 7× smaller than india and india has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons whereas we don't. But despite all of this, India still can't do anything to us

Sir, you clearly didn't read my post. 1: my post wasn't towards Pakistan. 2: I outlined India's limitations in becoming a super power. 3: I outlined why the US hasn't taken out NK.

On Iraq vs. NK, Iraq had a much formidable military with Western equipment, Russian higher end interceptors such as Mig-29 (upgraded for bvr missiles), Mig-25 high speed, high altitude interceptor (in one fight with an F-15, it evaded 5 missiles, obviously that was one pilot who knew how to use the machine well) and Iraq had a huge cache of missile.

On NK's side, here is how their airforce looks like. Good luck dealing with a barrage of F-16's, F-15's and F-18's. I am not including the JSF and the F-22 as those would be overkill for NK. The following is the NK's air-force profile for you. Thanks.


MiG-29
Russia multirole
35[14]
MiG-21 Soviet Union fighter
26[14]
MiG-23 Soviet Union fighter-bomber
56[14]
Sukhoi Su-7 Soviet Union fighter-bomber
18[14]
Sukhoi Su-25 Russia attack
34[14]
Ilyushin Il-28 Soviet Union medium bomber H-5 80[14] Chinese-built variant designated the H-5
Shenyang F-5 People's Republic of China fighter
106[14] derivative of the MiG-17
Shenyang J-6 People's Republic of China fighter F-6 97[14] license built MiG-19
Chengdu J-7 People's Republic of China fighter F-7 120[14] license built MiG-21
Transport
Antonov An-24 Ukraine heavy transport
1[14]
Helicopters
MD 500 United States light utility
84[14] Aircraft were illegally obtained by circumventing U.S. export controls.[15]
PZL Mi-2 Poland utility
46[14]
Mil Mi-8 Soviet Union utility
40[14]
Mil Mi-14 Soviet Union ASW / SAR
8[14]
Mil Mi-25 Russia attack
20[14]
Mil Mi-26 Russia transport
4[14]
Trainer Aircraft
Shenyang F-5 People's Republic of China jet trainer FT-5 135[14]
Shenyang FT-2 People's Republic of China jet trainer
30[14] Chinese production of the MiG-15UTI


Russia multirole
35[14]
MiG-21 Soviet Union fighter
26[14]
MiG-23 Soviet Union fighter-bomber
56[14]
Sukhoi Su-7 Soviet Union fighter-bomber
18[14]
Sukhoi Su-25 Russia attack
34[14]
Ilyushin Il-28 Soviet Union medium bomber H-5 80[14] Chinese-built variant designated the H-5
Shenyang F-5 People's Republic of China fighter
106[14] derivative of the MiG-17
Shenyang J-6 People's Republic of China fighter F-6 97[14] license built MiG-19
Chengdu J-7 People's Republic of China fighter F-7 120[14] license built MiG-21
Transport
Antonov An-24 Ukraine heavy transport
1[14]
Helicopters
MD 500 United States light utility
84[14] Aircraft were illegally obtained by circumventing U.S. export controls.[15]
PZL Mi-2 Poland utility
46[14]
Mil Mi-8 Soviet Union utility
40[14]
Mil Mi-14 Soviet Union ASW / SAR
8[14]
Mil Mi-25 Russia attack
20[14]
Mil Mi-26 Russia transport
4[14]
Trainer Aircraft
Shenyang F-5 People's Republic of China jet trainer FT-5 135[14]
Shenyang FT-2 People's Republic of China jet trainer
30[14] Chinese production of the MiG-15UTI

 

[I S I]

A few ships in two tiers, can take out anything they would fire towards the Japan or the US with SM II, V and IV interceptors

well they also got 70 fuckin submarines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People's_Navy

might not be as easy as you think it is to take them out just like that.

 

[DJ_Viper]

well they also got 70 fuckin submarines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_People's_Navy

might not be as easy as you think it is to take them out just like that.

Sir, thank you for your post. I never said that it was "that easy". A war is never "that" easy. Which is why the South Koreans start to piss in their pants when the Americans tell them to lets go take the NK out. But on the 70 submarines, these aren't really Virginia class nuclear attack submarines. The US Navy can take them out from distance. Can some of them do some damage? Absolutely. But that's just the cost of a war. Losing a few ships and what not, but taking out the NK threat once and for all, is totally worth it. The US military is the most combat-ready force across the globe. These old, loud submarines aren't Star-wars for us. We keep them in the ocean for a few weeks and they'll come out for air due to their 1960s design. Its a two week hide and seek. Thanks.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I guess, I told you "7 x Smaller" has been a relaity since 1971 and If India wanted to have a Military Action it will do so as Demonstrated in 1971 and 1999. So what India CAN do has ALREADY been Demonstrated in Past Years, Weather you like it or not . India DIVIDED Your nation in Two Halfs !

( Do Note 1999 Military Action was AFTER Pakistani Nuclear Tests )

The Change.. Now is the Fast Growing economy of India. Thats TRILLIONS of Dollars at Stake.

Not really. You can only have a nation with a people who are physically, racially, genetically, culturally the same as you and share a common heritage. the bengalis had none of those things in common with us. The bengalis are as close to Pakistanis as Somalians & Ethiopians are. So their split from Pakistan was enivateable. It didn't matter if it happened in 1971, 1981, 1991, 2001 or 2011 for that matter. The split was sure to happen. It's best it happened sooner rather than later. It's the same reason why Pakistan could never be part of india. We have absolutely nothing in common with indians. Losing lands is not the end of nations. By that definition, Russia, Germany & Turkey have been partitioned many times and are now finished. An extremely ridiculous assumption.

 

[I S I]

Sir, thank you for your post. I never said that it was "that easy". A war is never "that" easy. Which is why the South Koreans start to piss in their pants when the Americans tell them to lets go take the NK out. But on the 70 submarines, these aren't really Virginia class nuclear attack submarines. The US Navy can take them out from distance. Can some of them do some damage? Absolutely. But that's just the cost of a war. Losing a few ships and what not, but taking out the NK threat once and for all, is totally worth it. The US military is the most combat-ready force across the globe. These old, loud submarines aren't Star-wars for us. We keep them in the ocean for a few weeks and they'll come out for air due to their 1960s design. Its a two week hide and seek. Thanks.

k.

 

[Chanakyaa]

Not really. You can only have a nation with a people who are physically, racially, genetically, culturally the same as you and share a common heritage. the bengalis had none of those things in common with us. The bengalis are as close to Pakistanis as Somalians & Ethiopians are. So their split from Pakistan was enivateable. It didn't matter if it happened in 1971, 1981, 1991, 2001 or 2011 for that matter. The split was sure to happen. It's best it happened sooner rather than later. It's the same reason why Pakistan could never be part of india. We have absolutely nothing in common with indians. Losing lands is not the end of nations. By that definition, Russia, Germany & Turkey have been partitioned many times and are now finished. An extremely ridiculous assumption.

lame Excuses .
You started off with a "Question mark" over Indian "capability" ( To Carry out a Military Action AGAINST Pakistan ) and not the Improper Carving of Pakistan and Partition of India.

In 1971, east pakistan was a Pakistani Terretory, India had the Military Guts to DIVIDE a nation, Protected by a Professional Pakistani Armed Forces. Thats Proves its "capability".

Now. There is no point Discussing 1971 and partition.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

lame Excuses .
You started off with a "Question mark" over Indian "capability" ( To Carry out a Military Action AGAINST Pakistan ) and not the Improper Carving of Pakistan and Partition of India.

In 1971, east pakistan was a Pakistani Terretory, India had the Military Guts to DIVIDE a nation, Protected by a Professional Pakistani Armed Forces. Thats Proves its "capability".

Now. There is no point Discussing 1971 and partition.

Why not? Why does everything evolve around something that happened nearly 50 years ago when the Pakistan Army was fighting alone in bangladesh, against 100s of millions of hostile inhabitants, supported by a huge neighbouring enemy country and was cut if by 1000s of kms from the Pakistan mainland. It was impossible for india & bangladesh to lose. It's the same reason why the Germans lost at Stalingrad. If you want to go as far back as 1971, why not go as far back as 1947? If india was so powerful why couldn't they stop us creating our own nation in 1947 and why couldn't you incorporate bangladesh back into the indian federation in 1971?

But why can't india do this to PAKISTAN NOW? Especially after mumbai 2008?

 

[X-2.]

India once again proved it's coward nation and modi ji thinking to install pampers industry for defence so there army can board

 

[Joe Shearer]

What should Pakistan prepared for in such events

Silly question.

Ground zero.

Rajasthan is just a desert so its not worth capturing. However we should focus on IoJ&K and Punjab. Both of these places should be freed from India.

Aren't you tired of repeating a 70 year story?

 

[Chanakyaa]

Why not? Why does everything evolve around something that happened nearly 50 years ago when the Pakistan Army was fighting alone in bangladesh, against 100s of millions of hostile inhabitants, supported by a huge neighbouring enemy country and was cut if by 1000s of kms from the Pakistan mainland. It was impossible for india & bangladesh to lose. It's the same reason why the Germans lost at Stalingrad. If you want to go as far back as 1971, why not go as far back as 1947? If india was so powerful why couldn't they stop us creating our own nation in 1947 and why couldn't you incorporate bangladesh back into the indian federation in 1971?

But why can't india do this to PAKISTAN NOW? Especially after mumbai 2008?

Blah.. Blah.. Blah.... Why Not go Back to Big Bang & Creation of Universe and Discuss even better possibilities !
Open Your Eyes. This is 2016.

 

[Rahim Malik]

Good move by pakistan, it is showing that what India did we can also do it

 

[DeceptiveEagle]

What should Pakistan prepared for in such events

PAKISTAN is already in war like situation, We are fighting against indian sponsored terrorism. That's why we don't use threatening statements like bullshit Endians, We are always ready............

 

[knight11]

Won't be very good for indians. Just ask your military high command. They are fully aware of ALL our military capabilities, which is why you were so powerless to do anything to Pakistan after Mumbai 2008.

That was the political decission, because unlike your country IA follows the Political decission maker, and in your case the PA makes the foriegn policies.

The releasing altitude for CBU-105 is 60m to 6100m.
FM-90 SAM used by PA has engaging altitude of 6000m.

Jaguar will need to come down to 6100m to deploy CBU-105, it will be engaged by FM-90.

Because FM-90 cannot be carried with the armoured strike over the hostile territories. Second that is the max altitude, and SAM, BVR don't follow the straight path.

In other words Pakistan is too powerful for India to attack. If we weren't you would have tried many times

Good for feel good. We tried in 1971, and what was the result ???

LOL.....so now india is as powerful as america........ America may or may not be able to crush North Korea but not without suffering unacceptable loss and damage. I'm sure if the North Koreans did a mumbai 2008 to the americans they would have attacked them immediately Those that are weak and powerless will be crushed. That is a fact. Just ask the Iraqis, Afghans, Syrians & Libyans.

Did anyone claim india as powerful as U.S.A ???

Here is the problem with the Pakistanis, they don't understand that to punish the pakistan there are many several ways which includes the Diplomacy.

So if we are cowards please come and try to attack us. We are waiting

Yes to wage a non conventional and covert terrorism instead of direct war is called as cowardice by many intellectuals.

Lol......lol......lol.......WTF???????................Iraq was conventionally stronger than North Korea????????.........lol. Only in a bollywood fantasy maybe.....lol. You've just made your entire post invalid.




But if Pakistan was weak you could attack and destroy it without affecting your economy. Especially since we are at least 7× smaller than india and india has abundant access to all the world's most powerful weapons whereas we don't. But despite all of this, India still can't do anything to us

Again a problem with the Pakistani members to understand simple thought, that India donot want to invade or distroy Pakistan. They cannot understand a simple thing that it is the Pakistan that attack India 4 times and get bloody nose, but still dream of continue till 1000 years. They simply don't understand that if Pakistan if weak and to attack the weak neighbour may be their policy but not the Indians.

 

[Signalian]

Because FM-90 cannot be carried with the armoured strike over the hostile territories.

Strategies formulate as weapon doctrine evolves.

Second that is the max altitude, and SAM, BVR don't follow the straight path.

max ranges are same so keeping limiting factors in mind, engagement is possible.