Pakistan approves Gwadar port transfer to China

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Some Pakistan guy mentioned Lowari tunnel supposed to connect Pakistan to Central Asia through Wakhan Corridor.

yeah but to get connected with China, you don't need to go to Afghanistan, Turkamanistan, Gilgit is directly connected to china through Karakuram Highway. And same Karakuram Highway is connected with Swat and Abotabad.

 

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Illiteracy in Balochistan is around 80%, when Chinese investments will start coming through, it will eventually turn the fortunes of the inhabitants of balochistan around. Property prices will increase, business will grow, wealth will be created resulting in the complete eradication of the terrorist outfits which already have lost all of their support.

The Gwadar will not just be an energy corridor, we will link it up with Russia, C.Asia, Mongolia, Afghanistan and China. The estimated potential of revenue being generated out of Gwadar alone per year, should this project succeed is around 45 billion dollars, which would mean that the Balochistan will become Pakistan's richest province, mining, potential shale reserves are a thing of the future. Pakistan has plans to build larger new ports at Pasni, Jewani and Port Qasim.

This is excellent to hear.

I do understand that the UAE and Qatar are funding Baloch insurgents as it threatens their interest, and to add they host a large Baloch population true ? What of the Iran-Pakistan pipeline ? Has Pakistan fully agreed to go on with it despite American and Saudi opposition ?

A rail/pipeline could bring massive investment into Pakistan and Southern Xinjiang which is poorer, basically it would cement the Sino-Pakistan ties.

 

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A rail/pipeline could bring massive investment into Pakistan and Southern Xinjiang which is poorer, basically it would cement the Sino-Pakistan ties.

Not only that once Pakistan earn money on transit fee, it can invest even more on security and national defence such acquire new fighter, ships, missile ..even aircraft carrier .

 

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@Hu Songshan i dont have any hope of Pakistan-Iran pipeline until this govt is in power specially with US influence ....and if the next govt is of PML-N then again it will meet the same fate as historically they are most tilted towards Saudia and least towards iran so i dont see that happening in their period too ...its just a fancy stunt like many other being played by the PPP govt currently even a kid knows here the future of this project is very gloomy

Pakistan may be the sole country where her own political parties works against everything that promises a prosperous future for its public...these morons will never let anything good happen to this country ...until they are alive and in power ...everything will bite the dust

 

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Gwadar port takeover raises concern in India, now India is irked, it will be hard for pakistan and China to convince that this port is for peacefull used and pose no threat to India. . when we have pipe link and rail link it will even anger more India.

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Gwador deep sea port was destined to go to Chinese way since its inception. The two countries were waiting for the right time to announce the news. Since Nawab Raisani Government is ousted after the deadly attacks on Hazaras, US has outlined its withdrawal strategy from Afghanistan.

Within a year’s time we will witness another news “China readied to develop joint naval base in Gwador with Pakistan.

The great game of Eurasia is on the verge of magnum display and waiting for ultimate US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The permutation and combination will rapidly vacillate in the forthcoming period...

 

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Not only that once Pakistan earn money on transit fee, it can invest even more on security and national defence such acquire new fighter, ships, missile ..even aircraft carrier .

To hell with weapons bro we are not Indians who blindly spending everything on weapons to become regional power we know their potential they don't have genes to become power or rule. We want to see economic and infrastructure development more than anything else i hope one day i will see these in Pakistan.

 

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Sir they can demolish IN but they cant do that to USN. ALL of Chinese energy security and trade is dependent of the Sea, they want an alternative for BOTH, be it the Pakistan pipeline to China or the reinventing silk route.

They cant demolish IN in Indian Ocean Region. They can demolish it in SCS. In IOR, particularly close to Indian mainland - that includes Gwadar and Hormuz, odds are they will get destroyed by IN.

 

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To hell with weapons bro we are not Indians who blindly spending everything on weapons to become regional power we know their potential they don't have genes to become power or rule. We want to see economic and infrastructure development more than anything else i hope one day i will see these in Pakistan.

Indeed, if high speed train connect Kashgar to all Pakistan cities up the way to Gwadar than all business travel are within hours. the development between two countries will be exponential. Cross the fingers that everything will work out as your gorverment wishes and hope this day will come soon .

They cant demolish IN in Indian Ocean Region. They can demolish it in SCS. In IOR, particularly close to Indian mainland - that includes Gwadar and Hormuz, odds are they will get destroyed by IN.

then if the case, why your gorvernment is so consern about this deal?

 

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then if the case, why your gorvernment is so consern about this deal?

Because you can fight, does not mean you start courting one.
In anycase the govt has not issued a statement of concern at all! These are independent analyst writeups.

 

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In anycase the govt has not issued a statement of concern at all! These are independent analyst writeups.

Of course, no gorverment will be foolish enough to issue a statement publicly even they're not comfortable with but don't tell me that they're quiet behind door: Your gorverment is constanly monitored the development of this port since day one, India worst nightmare is to see one day that China has access to this port not because of military purpose but the geopolitic background: we can bypass all Indian sea blockage and have a direct short cut access to Arabian sea.

 

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Of course, no gorverment will be foolish enough to issue a statement publicly even they're not comfortable with but don't tell me that they're quiet behind door: Your gorverment is constanly monitored the development of this port since day one, India worst nightmare is to see one day that China has access to this port not because of military purpose but the geopolitic background: we can bypass all Indian sea blockage and have a direct short cut access to Arabian sea.

Actually it does not alleivate the blockade concerns. Indian Navy is by far the most dominant Navy in South Asia even if the rest of the countries pool their navies together. That is the extent of disparity. Unless PLAN comes directly - and the entire force, not a simple Surface Action Group, it is still easily blockable by IN.

However, IN is not capable of enforcing a blockade at 2 places at once. So the second pipeline that China is developing through Myanmar cannot be blockaded while Gwadar is being blockaded. It can be only one of two at the moment.

So China is indeed spreading risks of being blockaded for energy quite effectively. Gwadar initself presents no challenge, but coupled with Myanmar route it becomes very tough for IN alone. However it is still a breeze for USN and Singaporean Navies should they decide to do so.

 

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Indeed Indian Navy by far is the most powerfull in this area but once Gwadar port and pipeline are operational, China will certainly assist Pakistan to defend our asset. The table might turn around that Gulf of Oman exit will be the chock point for any Indian energy supply road either Middle East or central Asia...all depend the balance of power in the future, Pakistan will be China only choice to put the money bet or we will lose all.

 

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Because you can fight, does not mean you start courting one.
In anycase the govt has not issued a statement of concern at all! These are independent analyst writeups.

Didn't take too long to get your gorvernment official statement of concern

Antony: China Gwadar work is a worry | The Asian Age

 

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The concern is only that the port doesn't become a military base.