Pakistan And India-Water Disputes-News And Updates

[HSM]

There is no world bank guarantee! Stop propagating this myth, you are only going to mislead your countrymen and eventually disappoint them if India does decide to scrap the IWT.

IWT is a bilateral treaty, and was signed as a gesture of goodwill and friendship. There is no obligation, legal or economic.

What are you waiting for. Scrap it and face flooding

 

[ranjeet]

What are you waiting for. Scrap it and face flooding

For the time being regulating the flow would be enough, storage/diversion of our legal share on the 3 eastern rivers will be build and put to full use.

 

[T-Rex]

There is no world bank guarantee! Stop propagating this myth, you are only going to mislead your countrymen and eventually disappoint them if India does decide to scrap the IWT.

IWT is a bilateral treaty, and was signed as a gesture of goodwill and friendship. There is no obligation, legal or economic.

If anyone it is the modi government which is misleading the indian people. They bragged of surgical strikes inside Pakistan making the indian population believe that india was like the US. Now that the truth has been revealed the indian people are rightly disappointed at modi and embarrassed before the entire world, so much so that even a regime (the indian puppet regime in BD) as insignificant as the Bhutanese monarchy had to voice its support to india in order to sooth her pain.

 

[somebozo]

For the time being regulating the flow would be enough, storage/diversion of our legal share on the 3 eastern rivers will be build and put to full use.

Can be done over 20% of water volume...Shiri Moo Dhoye Jee!

 

[The Huskar]

Go ahead do it.. your control over our water is partial and it's impractical to stop waters like you are imagining ... And even if you flood/close gates Pak army is not in siachen to play baraf paani.. imagine a part of the mighty glacier being blown off (or controlled demolition of a part in stages).the results will be disastrous esp for leh and himachal paradesh and further south for anything along the rivers.. both Pakistan and india will suffer in this dirty game ..world will intervene. Pakistan's case will become stronger on Kashmir and world will only realise how much of a migraine india is and proactivly move towards plebiscite on Kashmir .Indian war mongerers think it's a child's play ..we are not Bangladesh...consequences are too much for their little minds to bear so they better forget on these silly dreams and get back to peace talks .

How does blowing up Siachen flood HP?
The drainage of Siachen i.e. Shyok River is a tributary of Indus which ultimately will end up flooding Pakistan.
Moreover suspension of talks doesn't mean India will divert every last drop of water towards India.It means no additional clauses will be drafted onto IWT in the foreseeable future, talks of which were being conducted.

 

[PatriotLover]

Close it and show your true face to the world. You all too afraid of that.

 

[HSM]

For the time being regulating the flow would be enough, storage/diversion of our legal share on the 3 eastern rivers will be build and put to full use.

Yeah wait till the Chinese regulate water and get their "legal share". It is not a question of China supporting Pakistan on Kashmir but a question of Pakistan's survival and Chinese stakes in Pakistan are high. Only time will tell but I do not think that Modi Sarkaar has the gall to create any problems for Pakistan.

 

[Roybot]

Sorry...it is a signatory..not a gurantor...which means any future re-negotiation will also involved WB...Modi is falsely chest thumping trying to show some fake masculinity ke ham bhi ksi sa kam nahi! chutya president sala! The fact is that India got no need on the Uri false flag and if the attack is not capitalized by BJP it will back fire as investigations close in...

The Indus Waters Treaty was concluded by India and Pakistan on September 19, 1960. The World Bank is a signatory to the Treaty for certain specified purposes. It is not a guarantor of the Treaty. Many of the purposes for which the World Bank signed the Treaty have been completed.

http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXT...K:146736~piPK:146830~theSitePK:223547,00.html

It is not even a signatory. World Bank (International Bank of Reconstruction and Development) had only one role in IWT, and that was to see the transfer of money from India to Pakistan for the construction of irrigation canals in Pakistan. That is it.

There were only two signatories, India and Pakistan. IWT is a bilateral treaty, and India is well within its rights to withdraw from it, if it deems it necessary.

 

[The Huskar]

What are you waiting for. Scrap it and face flooding

What will you flood?? Twitter?
Incase you missed Geography 101, India has the advantage of contour against Pakistan.

 

[HSM]

What will you flood?? Twitter?
Incase you missed Geography 101, India has the advantage of contour against Pakistan.

Lol, I am not going to flood anything. The river will flood if you hold it

 

[Roybot]

What are you waiting for. Scrap it and face flooding

How does scrapping IWT leads to flooding

 

[The Huskar]

Lol, I am not going to flood anything. The river will flood if you hold it

Hence the purpose of Indira Gandhi Canal towards Punjab and Rajasthan.

 

[Tuchha]

Pakistan sponsored terror in India is a figment of Indian imagination..and in some delusional bollywood supah powah india is fiddling all its holes...this will erode years of trust and India will reassert itself as an irresponsible country....we need to bring up cases of Indian sponsored terror in Pakistan as well...and find ways to co-operate with China in securing water supply..

IWT is not a commission for talks but a treat guaranteed by world bank...for years Pakistan has complained to world bank over Indian manipulation of river data and water flow...now this will re-assert Pakistani position...

Even elites are getting hyper these days. Just relax, why don you just shun the policy of terrorism for your own benefit at least this will improve your image and world will listen to you.
A person carrying pakistani passport is synonym of terrorist at all international airports.Have seen myself how green passport holders are singled out and humiliated on account of search and purpose of visit. Disposing policy of terrorism will be a great favor to your own countrymen.

 

[Roybot]

Sorry...it is a signatory..not a gurantor...which means any future re-negotiation will also involved WB...Modi is falsely chest thumping trying to show some fake masculinity ke ham bhi ksi sa kam nahi! chutya president sala! The fact is that India got no need on the Uri false flag and if the attack is not capitalized by BJP it will back fire as investigations close in...

According to the Treaty, the remaining responsibilities of the World Bank are:

One, a role for the World Bank in the appointment of a Neutral Expert. The first step under the Treaty is to resolve any "question" through the Permanent Indus Commission itself. If the "question" is not resolved there, it becomes a "difference" and is referred to a Neutral Expert, to be appointed by the two countries, or by a third party agreed upon by the two countries. In the absence of such an agreement, the appointment of the Neutral Expert would be made by the World Bank, in consultation with the two countries. The decision of the Neutral Expert on all matters within his competence shall be final and binding.

Two, the management by the World Bank of a trust fund to meet the expenses of a Neutral Expert.

Three, a role for the World Bank in the establishment of a Court of Arbitration. If the “difference” does not fall within the mandate of the Neutral Expert, or if the Neutral Expert rules that the “difference” should be treated as a “dispute”, then a Court of Arbitration would be established. The role of the World Bank, along with other institutions such as the Secretary General of the United Nations, is to participate in the selection of three appointees to the seven-person Court. The parties to the Treaty each select two members of the Court. The World Bank itself plays no part in the actual hearing or determination of the issues before the tribunal.

Full Text of Articles

• Preamble
• Article I Definitions
• Article II Provisions regarding Eastern Rivers
• Article III Provisions regarding Western Rivers
• Article IV Provisions regarding Easter Rivers and Western Rivers
• Article V Financial Provisions
• Article VI Exchange of Data
• Article VII Future Cooperation
• Article VIII Permanent Indus Commission
• Article IX Settlement of Differences and Disputes
• Article X Emergency Provisions
• Article XI General Provisions
• Article XII Final Provisions

• Annexure A - Exchange of Notes between Gov.of India and Gov. of Pakistan
• Annexure B - Agricultural use by Pakistan from certain Tributaries of the Ravi
• Annexure C - Agricultural use by India from the western rivers
• Annexure D - Generation of Hydro-Electric Power by India on the western rivers
• Annexure E - Storage of Waters by India on the western rivers
• Annexure F - Neutral Expert
• Annexure G - Court of Arbitration
• Annexure H - Transitional Arrangements
• Annexure H - Appendix II

Shiri Moo Dhoye Jee has gone bezerk and farting left right from every hole..!

See you are still misleading your folks.

It clearly mentions that IBRD (World Bank) is signatory for only Article V and X and Annexures F,G,H.

From your own links,

Article V Financial Provisions

Article X Emergency Provisions

Annexure F Neutral Expert

Annexure G Court of Arbitration

Annexure H Transitional Arrangements

All these roles automatically cease to exist if one of the signatories (India or Pakistan) decide to abrogate this treaty.

Tl;dr India can do away with IWT and there is nothing in the world that can stop India from doing so.

 

[HSM]

How does scrapping IWT leads to flooding [/QUOTE
jo paaani roko ge woh apni dhoti mein rakho ge?

Even elites are getting hyper these days. Just relax, why don you just shun the policy of terrorism for your own benefit at least this will improve your image and world will listen to you.
A person carrying pakistani passport is synonym of terrorist at all international airports.Have seen myself how green passport holders are singled out and humiliated on account of search and purpose of visit. Disposing policy of terrorism will be a great favor to your own countrymen.

Yeah they don't want to stop Indians at airports because they cannot handle the odor

Leave us alone. We will do whatever is in our power for our Kashmiri brothers and our right to survive, till the last drop of blood and you should learn to live with it because we will not stop. I will not reply further because this debate is useless and the sooner you realize the better for you

As Bhutto said: "So what if the whole of East Pakistan falls? So what if the whole of West Pakistan falls? We will build a new Pakistan. We will build a better Pakistan."

Surviving 71 and becoming a nuclear power after that is a testament to our will and resolve!