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[Talon]

Not everything about it is classified beyond specific roles and tactics used.
The idea of fighting with BVR fighters and forcing WVR is as old as ACEVAL and AIMVAL, techniques include using Ambush CAP setups, hiding in ground clutter etc

A common practice is to keep changing parameters for BVR missiles; BVR systems depends on target aspect, speed and height which makes the "range" of a BVr system a pretty fluid number- a target coming head on(and mainting its aspect) may be engaged at 50km while one running away will barely make 10km.

So a well trained pilot can confound a BVR shot by constantly changing aspect, speed and height via intelligent energy management and can close to WVR range- that is what our pilots trained to do for almost twenty years prior to BVR coming to PAF(in proper numbers anyway)

The classified stuff is related to PAF and its strategies,plans and operations(especially the aircrafts) and not to general concept of BVR and WVR.For the rest of the stuff u said,nobody can argue on that..!

Sir can i ask what special f7 can do when it carries only two wvr missiles and have drop tanks ? I mean against heavy fighters how much this machine can survive bcz although its true that its not the single fighter jet which took part in interception but still at the end of the day u can only use only use those weapons which u have in yur own bucket ?

It all depends on how u use ur bucket..and yes there are always more than one aircraft and more than one type.
P.s drop tanks are always jettisoned before engagement

 

[CriticalThought]

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Airforce or Army

Would be interesting if it can be converted into a drone and piloted remotely.

 

[TOPGUN]

Air Platforms

Chinese SEAD-equipped J-10B emerges at Aviadarts contest
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Richard D Fisher Jr - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

16 August 2017

A SEAD-mission-equipped J-10B fighter emerged for the first time at a display concluding the 2017 Aviadarts international aerial competition at Changchun Airbase in Jilin province. Source: Via Dingsheng web page

China has used the recent ‘Aviadarts’ international aerial competition to reveal for the first time that its Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC) J-10B can be equipped to perform suppression of enemy air defences (SEAD) missions, adding to the number of People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) combat aircraft able to perform this mission.

Images of the SEAD-equipped J-10B first appeared on Chinese web pages on 10 August as part of a ground display at Changchun Airbase in Jilin Province, occurring at the end of the Aviadarts competition, part of the larger 2017 International Army Games held from 29 July to 12 August.

For the SEAD mission the J-10B was revealed to carry two Hongdu Aviation Industries YJ-91 anti-radiation missiles (ARMs). The YJ-91 was developed from the Russian Tactical Missile CorporationKh-31 family of ramjet-powered ARM and anti-ship missiles that were first seen in China in the early 2000s. The YJ-91 reportedly requires a separate guidance system pod, which was seen mounted on a fuselage pylon of the J-10B.

As early as 2009 indications emerged that the YJ-91 also could equip the earlier J-10A. However, this version has not been seen with the Southwest Institute of Electronics Equipment (SWIEE) K/RKL007A electronic support measures/electronic countermeasures (ESM/ECM) pod seen under the J-10B. This pod possibly enables or enhances the J-10B’s ability to autonomously attack electronic targets.

PAF really needs to get its hands on J-10B or J-10C time is being wasted the org number of 36 or a 18 would help.

 

[CriticalThought]

PAF really needs to get its hands on J-10B or J-10C time is being wasted the org number of 36 or a 18 would help.

I still say increase the capacity of Thunder's production line and make it potent enough to face all threats. Latest model jets should be bought only as quality drivers.

 

[syed_yusuf]

PAF should go for a customized version of FC-31 as JF31 with all bells and whistles. if we take it seriously we can have a 5th gen fighter in 5-7 years from now

 

[fatman17]

@bilal @TK @Oscar
Can someone shed some light on PAF SEAD assets. l know all our vipers are capable of firing the AGM88 HARM but the US never approved the sale, however JANES claims that both the AIM7 Sparrow and the AGM88 HARM are in PAF inventory but I think they are mistaken and that's why PAF went for the MR1 HARM a copy of the US missile. Which aircraft in our inventory are compatible to use this missile. What about the Chinese YJ91 AGM. Please comment.

 

[SQ8]

@bilal @TK @Oscar
Can someone shed some light on PAF SEAD assets. l know all our vipers are capable of firing the AGM88 HARM but the US never approved the sale, however JANES claims that both the AIM7 Sparrow and the AGM88 HARM are in PAF inventory but I think they are mistaken and that's why PAF went for the MR1 HARM a copy of the US missile. Which aircraft in our inventory are compatible to use this missile. What about the Chinese YJ91 AGM. Please comment.

Mirages, specifically two non publicly upgraded sq at rafiqui and masroor- MAR-1 using in house RHAWS

JF-17 to assist with Chinese arm in the future.

F-16s to remain focused on OCA and critical AD, mostly mirages & F-7s and JF-17s on CAS to limit expected attrition
in those high risk missions

 

[khanasifm]

AFM August 2017

The Pakistan Air Force has been highly effective against terrorists in Pakistan’s FATA region and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance assets have been at the forefront of its combat operations, as Alan Warnes explains.

Any thing new ??

 

[fatman17]

 

[fatman17]

https://twitter.com/x/status/899253820211040257

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[his5850]

What is the PAF 10 year future plan?? From ACM sohail aman interview I am getting the idea that PAF next plane will be 5th generation.

what you thoughts guys??

 

[Alpha BeeTee]

What is the PAF 10 year future plan?? From ACM sohail aman interview I am getting the idea that PAF next plane will be 5th generation.

what you thoughts guys??

PAF's focus is on jf17 ( perhaps block 3) purely.
For 4.5th generation requirments perhaps ToT of J10 etc from China but chances are slim for such an accusation.
Project Azm is very far off as of now.
So the future looks to be just ok.

 

[his5850]

PAF's focus is on jf17 ( perhaps block 3) purely.
For 4.5th generation requirments perhaps ToT of J20 etc from China but chances are slim for such an accusation.
Project Azm is very far off as of now.
So the future looks to be just ok.

JF-17 blok 3 is 4.5 gen plane but J-20 is 5th gen
as far as tot is PAF going with J-20 or J-31 or with Turkey TAI TFX

 

[CriticalThought]

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Viper vs. some unknown twin engine aircraft? Is this from a PAF exercise? An actual border skirmish? Or just some footage from somewhere else? The two planes are at too leisurely a pace for this to be real combat. Looks like an exercise, to me.

EDIT: Another thing to note is the twin engine aircraft loses a lot of speed in the turn, allowing the viper to close the gap considerably. From there, the Viper can rely on its excellent sustained turn rate and the enemy has to make ONE mistake, he'll be roast turkey. As a matter of fact, if this viper were armed with HOBS + HMD/S, the twin engine would already be roast turkey once the gap was closed.

Also, if the viper were equipped with a 5th gen WVRAM, things wouldn't proceed to the turning phase. It would have taken a shot almost as soon as it got on the six.

Just goes on to show we really need 5th gen WVRAM, and HOBS + HMD/S

 

[Avicenna]

Viper vs. some unknown twin engine aircraft? Is this from a PAF exercise? An actual border skirmish? Or just some footage from somewhere else? The two planes are at too leisurely a pace for this to be real combat. Looks like an exercise, to me.

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EDIT: Another thing to note is the twin engine aircraft loses a lot of speed in the turn, allowing the viper to close the gap considerably. From there, the Viper can rely on its excellent sustained turn rate and the enemy has to make ONE mistake, he'll be roast turkey. As a matter of fact, if this viper were armed with HOBS + HMD/S, the twin engine would already be roast turkey once the gap was closed.

Also, if the viper were equipped with a 5th gen WVRAM, things wouldn't proceed to the turning phase. It would have taken a shot almost as soon as it got on the six.

Just goes on to show we really need 5th gen WVRAM, and HOBS + HMD/S

It looks like a Mig-29. Could be from any number of scenarios.

For all we know its a US operated Mig-29 out of Nevada.