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MiG 35 is now a must for the PAF.
can pakistan even get hands on them. back in 2016 there were rumors of pakistan getting su35s which was getting me pumped but then russia denied all sales. can pakistan even get mig 35 if it tryed
 
Sir ji, u know well we cant get it. Better to go for J10s if necessary or else best to keep eyes on the 5th Gen program and pursue it as we did for JF17s.
Hi what about your say on j16 if we can get a squad of j16 we will be defiantly getting its upgrades for future references through china as Chinese is making them their prime fighter jet for sea roll
Now here the question is about the illegal copy or something but I'm sure Chinese can lure Russians into supplying them with more su35 if we can pull out this deal from Chinese
Any more informatic input will be appreciated
Thx
 
Sir ji, u know well we cant get it. Better to go for J10s if necessary or else best to keep eyes on the 5th Gen program and pursue it as we did for JF17s.

we are now part of SCO and things can change.

I also agreed with ur argument that numbers are the problem. 150 may be not enough, so either increase them or get another plane and that is where i added J10 which will be a suitable option looking at what enemy will have in future. 70 F16s cant hold 250-300 Sukhois and Rafaels.

with Turkey now moving forward to the F35, there will be surplus upgraded F16s available in the near term.
 
we are now part of SCO and things can change.



with Turkey now moving forward to the F35, there will be surplus upgraded F16s available in the near term.
we are almost at the point where the JF-17 is going to be Superior to the block 50. instead of buying new F-16s we should focus on the jf-17 and make it better
 
we are almost at the point where the JF-17 is going to be Superior to the block 50. instead of buying new F-16s we should focus on the jf-17 and make it better

true but we need to make up some numbers and nothing better than getting a few sqdns of vipers from Turkey.
 
I anticipate some ex-Turkish and ex-Egyptian F-16s at some point in the mid to distant future. At least I hope so.
 
Air-Launched Weapons

New BVRAAM may have entered PLAAF service

Andrew Tate and Neil Gibson - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly

18 July 2017

A PLAAF CAC J-10C combat aircraft armed with PL-10 short-range AAMs (outer underwing pylons) and what appear to be new BVRAAMs (mid-underwing pylons). Source: Via Chinese internet

Images have emerged on Chinese online military forums showing a People’s Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) Chengdu Aircraft Industry Corporation (CAC) J-10C combat aircraft armed with what appears to be a new beyond-visual-range air-to-air missile (BVRAAM).

The fighter was photographed carrying two PL-10 short-range AAMs on its outer underwing pylons and two of the new missiles on its mid-underwing pylons.

Although nomenclature is uncertain as no official information is forthcoming, it is likely that the new missile is the one being referred to unofficially as the PL-15, with its appearance on the underwing pylons of a J-10C possibly reflecting that it is now in service.

The missile is estimated to be around 3.7 m long, with a diameter of 200 mm. It is fitted with low aspect ratio aerodynamic stabilising surfaces (trapezoidal wings) on its mid-section and at the moveable control surfaces (clipped delta fins) at its tail.

The respective surface spans approximately 390 mm and 515 mm. There is no visible evidence of a thrust vectoring control (TVC) system present at the rear of the new missile, as can clearly be seen on the PL-10, so control appears to be aerodynamic only. Additionally, there are no air intakes that would be necessary if propulsion was provided by a ramjet, so it can be assumed that a standard form rocket motor is being used.

Photographs of a similar missile carried by a Shenyang Aircraft Corporation J-16 emerged in 2012, which is thought to be undergoing development trials. Like the recent sighting, the missile’s aerodynamic surfaces are the same low aspect ratio planform, which facilitates loading in the internal weapons bay of the CAC J-20 'fifth-generation' fighter.

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MAKS 2017
International Aviation and Space Show
18 - 23 July 2017, Zhukovsky, Russia
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MAKS 2017: New MiG-35 fighter jet approved for export market

The advanced Russian-made Mikoyan MiG-35 multirole fighter jet has received an export certificate, Head of Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation Dmitry Shugayev said during MAKS 2017 airshow.

The new MiG-35 multirole fighter jet at MAKS 2017

"The MiG-35 is a 4++ generation plane. It is equipped with powerful weapons and advanced onboard equipment. It has aroused extreme envy in our rivals," Shugayev said at the MAKS 2017 international airshow.

"We will actively promote the plane. Its export certificate and relevant documents are ready," he added.

According to him, Russia’s Rosoboronexport state arms seller is cooperating with the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) and the MiG Corporation to promote the fighter jet on the market.

It was reported earlier that the plane would be shown to the public for the first time at the MAKS 2017 airshow.

It performed its first flight in early 2017.
 
Sir, is that Thunder's cockpit and simulator?


Nops, qatari training establishment. Thus their stuff.

This is a PC-21 cockpit (simulator)..see here:
PC21-cockpit.jpg


And according to this news source PAF has delivered Mushak trainer to QAF:

http://alkhaleejonline.net/articles/1500467313031040400/بالصور-وصول-أول-دفعة-طائرات-تدريبية-باكستانية-إلى-قطر/
 

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