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[ziaulislam]

It says very clearly in the article.

this is a big wow, didnt made big headlines
the price is low 120M, i wonder why

 

[araz]

We had four erieyes 3 were with radars and one just Saab 2000?.now all are operational

Wrong. We had 4 with Radars and one for training.One got smoked and 2 were damaged during the Kamra Attack. The damaged ones were recovered a d PAF bought a supplementary Radar and equipment along with another Saab plane 029. Now what happens subsequently is anyones guess but the price for these is really good.
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[ziaulislam]

Wrong. We had 4 with Radars and one for training.One got smoked and 2 were damaged during the Kamra Attack. The damaged ones were recovered a d PAF bought a supplementary Radar and equipment along with another Saab plane 029. Now what happens subsequently is anyones guess but the price for these is really good.
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The Pakistan Air Force chief, Air Chief Marshal Sohail Aman, told AFM in late April that the air arm is set to receive three new Saab 2000 Erieye airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft. The first will be delivered in December and the remaining pair will arrive next year.

so does this mean we will end up with 7 or 6 SAAB systems
source seems to be reliable

 

[khanasifm]

this is a big wow, didnt made big headlines
the price is low 120M, i wonder why

its 120 M pounds so X App 2.2

 

[syed_yusuf]

This seems PAF will end up with 6 erieye and 4 ke3 aewcs in next few years. Not bad at all. It just need 3 if them to cover entire Pakistan

 

[ziaulislam]

its 120 M pounds so X App 2.2

that still not much its just 160 million dollars, the first deal was way expensive In October 2005 Saab signed a contract to supply an airborne Surveillance System for Pakistan to the value of 8.3 billion SEK vs just 1.3B SEK
is it possible that we just acquiring one system for replacement not 3

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

that still not much its just 160 million dollars, the first deal was way expensive In October 2005 Saab signed a contract to supply an airborne Surveillance System for Pakistan to the value of 8.3 billion SEK vs just 1.3B SEK
is it possible that we just acquiring one system for replacement not 3

In 2007 the PAF reduced the order from 6 to 4, this caused the contract to drop in price by $186 million (SEK 1.3 bn). It seems that the cost of the Erieye (in 2007) was $93 m not including life-cycle support costs. This $93 m also includes the cost of the Saab 2000, zeroing its airframe and integration. The PAF has already absorbed the life-cycle costs, so it can buy the Erieye for its up front price.

 

[ziaulislam]

do we need whether these will be identical to previous SAAB or some updated features?

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

do we need whether these will be identical to previous SAAB or some updated features?

Probably the same Erieye AESA radar, possibly additional subsystems (e.g. EO/IR pod, SAR, etc).

 

[fatman17]

Turkey unveils two new AAMs

Two new Turkish air-to-air missiles (AAMs) were unveiled on the first day of the International Defence Exhibition Fair (IDEF). The exhibition, which is taking place in Istanbul from May 9-12, is subject to unprecedented security, due to the situation in the country.

Almost immediately after the opening ceremony, Turkey’s Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım visited the Tübitak SAGE (Defence Industry Research and Development Institute) to unveil the Peregrine within-visual-range (WVR) and Merlin beyond-visual-range (BVR) AAMs. They are the first weapons in these classes to be developed by Turkish industry, as it works to design and build a new Turkish fighter (TF-X) well into the next decade.

Both missiles have been under development since 2012 as part of Project Goktug, according to the Tübitak Director, Erdal Cakmak. He indicated that both missiles should be integrated and test-fired within the next two years.

According to one source AFM spoke to, the Peregrine (Gokdogan) has a range of 30km (20 miles) while the larger Merlin (Bozdogan) has a range of around 65km (40 miles). Both are currently at their design stage, but Mr Cakmak said ‘it was an appropriate time to show them off’. Alan Warnes

 

[fatman17]

China aiming to become global fighter jet supplier with cheap new radar
By Wang Xueying (CNTV) 16:02, May 22, 2017

(Photo/CGTN)
China has developed a cheap, lightweight radar for fighter jets as it bids to supply more such technology to developing nations.
Announcing the breakthrough on Monday, state-owned aviation and defense company AVIC explained that it features a new cooling system and said it will be installed in nearly 1,000 existing Chinese jets, increasing their combat effectiveness.
The technology should prove attractive to Pakistan, with whom China already has an arrangement to supply fighter jets, and other developing countries, said sources with the AVIC’s Radar Research Institute.

 

[帅的一匹]

Convert all PD radar to AESA radar in situ, a huge combat ability leap for PLAAF.

Only China can do it!

 

[Army research]

Convert all PD radar to AESA radar in situ, a huge combat ability leap for PLAAF.

Only China can do it!

Heck If it fits FC1 and PAF gets it for all it's older Doppler using Blk 1 and Blk 2 aircraft's, 100 in all, it would be a leap comparable to buying 50 new jets

 

[帅的一匹]

Heck If it fits FC1 and PAF gets it for all it's older Doppler using Blk 1 and Blk 2 aircraft's, 100 in all, it would be a leap comparable to buying 50 new jets

We have lot of genius in China, Kudos!

I'm proud for my country.

 

[ghazi768]

Btw the Corsair saga is a perfect example of 100 piyaz bhi khana or 100 jootay bhi.
Pakistan wanted a good attack aircraft as a B-57 replacement. The A-7 fitted the bill. Deal was for circa 120 aircraft. Then at the same time were negotiating rather successfully with the French for a nuclear reprocessing plant (hint plutonium route to nuke bombs).
When the Carter administration came in, it held hostage the Corsairs against scrapping of the reprocessing plant deal.
We didn't budge, hence Corsairs deal scrapped. Eventually the US pressure proved too much for the French & they scrapped the reprocessing plant deal as well.
Hence "pani bhi na piya, glass tora 12 anay bill".

although it is off-topic, but if we have budged had we not given up the enrichment route as well as processing route? what do you say?