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[fatman17]

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Update: Pakistan prepares air strikes in response to Peshawar school attack
Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
21 December 2014

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) finalised plans on 18 December to carry out fresh bombing raids targeting suspected Taliban militant camps across the tribal areas close to the country's border with Afghanistan.
A Pakistani defence ministry official told IHS Jane's the attacks will mainly be carried out by Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter aircraft and will be in retaliation for the Taliban's 16 December attack on an army-run school in Peshawar in which at least 148 people - including 132 children - were killed.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack by up to nine militants while it was still under way.

 

[monitor]

Air Platforms
Update: Pakistan prepares air strikes in response to Peshawar school attack
Farhan Bokhari, Islamabad - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
21 December 2014

The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) finalised plans on 18 December to carry out fresh bombing raids targeting suspected Taliban militant camps across the tribal areas close to the country's border with Afghanistan.
A Pakistani defence ministry official told IHS Jane's the attacks will mainly be carried out by Lockheed Martin F-16 fighter aircraft and will be in retaliation for the Taliban's 16 December attack on an army-run school in Peshawar in which at least 148 people - including 132 children - were killed.

The Taliban claimed responsibility for the attack by up to nine militants while it was still under way.

I am not finding any thing new air camping are going on but it will be significant if Pakistan air force target TTP leadership hiding insight Afghanistan .btw whats about JF-17 aren't they able to drop PGM ?

 

[alimobin memon]

I am not finding any thing new air camping are going on but it will be significant if Pakistan air force target TTP leadership hiding insight Afghanistan .btw whats about JF-17 aren't they able to drop PGM ?

I believe jf17 does not have PGM capability right now its in development all those PGM shown on air shows are just to clear what jf17 armament would be. One of the reasons I believe Nigeria has gone for migs again.

 

[fatman17]

I believe jf17 does not have PGM capability right now its in development all those PGM shown on air shows are just to clear what jf17 armament would be. One of the reasons I believe Nigeria has gone for migs again.

how so.....

 

[alimobin memon]

how so.....

My knowledge says this is right time for any jet to prove its capabilities and increase its experience. Pakistan airforce is using f16 to bomb these terrorists not jf17 if they had be using there had be some pics. How come only f16 pics are shown. See mate look at euro fighter typhoons its first tranche had basic AD capabilities no bvr even no GBU-24, GPS-guided weapons, ALARM, Paveway III & IV, Rafael LITENING III all of these AG capabilities. After the tranche 2 program initiated the tranche 1 are being upgraded. My point is eurofighters have been seen with so many A/G payloads no doubt but initial released pics with huge payload were all for testing phases and training no operational readiness was recorded. since few years ago ef2000 has been used for AG capabilities by 2009.

So jf17 is still not cleared for A/G capabilities all we have seen is dumb MK series bombs which are not good for counter insurgency. JF17 is not been used for it rather AA patrols might have been what counted for service hours of jf17 or maybe little for clearing terrorists by dumb bombs. NO PGM's I am telling you. I hope you got my point.

 

[alimobin memon]

CAC/PAC JF-17 Thunder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Updated payload and added CM 400AKG to A to Surface missiles.

 

[fatman17]

My knowledge says this is right time for any jet to prove its capabilities and increase its experience. Pakistan airforce is using f16 to bomb these terrorists not jf17 if they had be using there had be some pics. How come only f16 pics are shown. See mate look at euro fighter typhoons its first tranche had basic AD capabilities no bvr even no GBU-24, GPS-guided weapons, ALARM, Paveway III & IV, Rafael LITENING III all of these AG capabilities. After the tranche 2 program initiated the tranche 1 are being upgraded. My point is eurofighters have been seen with so many A/G payloads no doubt but initial released pics with huge payload were all for testing phases and training no operational readiness was recorded. since few years ago ef2000 has been used for AG capabilities by 2009.

So jf17 is still not cleared for A/G capabilities all we have seen is dumb MK series bombs which are not good for counter insurgency. JF17 is not been used for it rather AA patrols might have been what counted for service hours of jf17 or maybe little for clearing terrorists by dumb bombs. NO PGM's I am telling you. I hope you got my point.

how do you know JFT is not being used against militants. just bcuz you hav'nt seen any pictures. thats rather quite lame explaination. PAF does not disclose which platform it is using for these ops. even the F-16s use is not officially confirmed by the PAF. its based on speculation of the media and us.

 

[Bratva]

how do you know JFT is not being used against militants. just bcuz you hav'nt seen any pictures. thats rather quite lame explaination. PAF does not disclose which platform it is using for these ops. even the F-16s use is not officially confirmed by the PAF. its based on speculation of the media and us.

I hope you are being sarcastic, not serious. Thanks to Alan warnes extensive articles. we know which platform and equipemnt are being used.

And since neither WMD-7 nor PGMs are integrated with Block-1 JF-17 besides the weak structure prevents it from carrying heavy loads, that's why wing roots were strengthen in Block-2 (A fact admitted by Project director itself), how they can participate in bombing runs ?

 

[HRK]

I hope you are being sarcastic, not serious. Thanks to Alan warnes extensive articles. we know which platform and equipemnt are being used.

And since neither WMD-7 nor PGMs are integrated with Block-1 JF-17 besides the weak structure prevents it from carrying heavy loads, that's why wing roots were strengthen in Block-2 (A fact admitted by Project director itself), how they can participate in bombing runs ?

In current Zhuhai airshow one of the PAF delegation member in a brief interview confirm the employment of JF-17 in FATA. (I think that was appeared in Defence News article, trying to find it)

 

[Bratva]

In current Zhuhai airshow one of the PAF delegation member in an brief interview confirm the employment of JF-17 in FATA. (I think that was appeared in Defence News article, trying to find it)

Employed as dive bombers for dropping dumb bombs. 500 or 1000 pound bombs not PGM

 

[fatman17]

Arms imports to Pakistan, 2013-2013

Note: Information is provided on deals with deliveries or orders made during the period specified and covers major conventional weapons, as defined by SIPRI. The 'No. delivered' and the 'Year(s) of deliveries' columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. For more information, see
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Supplier Recipient No. ordered Weapon designation Weapon description Year of order Year(s) of deliveries No. delivered
Recipient Involvement Comments


China Pakistan (50) JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 FGA aircraft 1999 2007 - 2013 (50) Yes JF-17 Block-1 version; developed for Pakistan; incl production of components and assembly in Pakistan; incl 8 mainly for testing and first 42 production version ordered 2009 for $800 m.

China Pakistan (100) C-802/CSS-N-8 Anti-ship missile 2008 2012 - 2013 (20) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (50) CM-400AKG Anti-ship missile 2010 2012 - 2013 (20) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (800) PL-12/SD-10 BVRAAM 2006 2010 - 2013 (200) For JF-17 and possibly modernized Mirage-3/5 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (750) LS-3 Guided bomb 2008 2010 - 2013 (275) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (1000) LS-6-500 Guided bomb 2008 2010 - 2013 (250) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (750) LT-2 Guided bomb 2008 2010 - 2013 (250) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (1000) PL-5E SRAAM 2006 2009 - 2013 (360) For JF-17 combat aircraft; PL-5E-II version

China Pakistan (200) WMD-7 Aircraft EO system 2008 2009 - 2013 (50) For JF-17 combat aircraft

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why would PAF spend its meagre resources to buy munitions it cannot deploy and use.....dosnt make any sense does it....

 

[razgriz19]

Arms imports to Pakistan, 2013-2013

Note: Information is provided on deals with deliveries or orders made during the period specified and covers major conventional weapons, as defined by SIPRI. The 'No. delivered' and the 'Year(s) of deliveries' columns refer to all deliveries since the beginning of the contract. For more information, see
Sources and Methods

Supplier Recipient No. ordered Weapon designation Weapon description Year of order Year(s) of deliveries No. delivered
Recipient Involvement Comments


China Pakistan (50) JF-17 Thunder/FC-1 FGA aircraft 1999 2007 - 2013 (50) Yes JF-17 Block-1 version; developed for Pakistan; incl production of components and assembly in Pakistan; incl 8 mainly for testing and first 42 production version ordered 2009 for $800 m.

China Pakistan (100) C-802/CSS-N-8 Anti-ship missile 2008 2012 - 2013 (20) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (50) CM-400AKG Anti-ship missile 2010 2012 - 2013 (20) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (800) PL-12/SD-10 BVRAAM 2006 2010 - 2013 (200) For JF-17 and possibly modernized Mirage-3/5 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (750) LS-3 Guided bomb 2008 2010 - 2013 (275) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (1000) LS-6-500 Guided bomb 2008 2010 - 2013 (250) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (750) LT-2 Guided bomb 2008 2010 - 2013 (250) For JF-17 combat aircraft

China Pakistan (1000) PL-5E SRAAM 2006 2009 - 2013 (360) For JF-17 combat aircraft; PL-5E-II version

China Pakistan (200) WMD-7 Aircraft EO system 2008 2009 - 2013 (50) For JF-17 combat aircraft

© SIPRI 17 March 2014. For terms and conditions of use see
Terms and conditions of use — www.sipri.org


why would PAF spend its meagre resources to buy munitions it cannot deploy and use.....dosnt make any sense does it....

still, have yet to see a JF-17 dropping a PGM on talibunnies.
There was just one video released showing testing of the bomb drop, and that was probably by Chinese as well.
still waiting for something from PAF

 

[SipahSalar]

And since neither WMD-7 nor PGMs are integrated with Block-1 JF-17 besides the weak structure prevents it from carrying heavy loads, that's why wing roots were strengthen in Block-2 (A fact admitted by Project director itself), how they can participate in bombing runs ?

What are you talking about? JF-17s performed bombing runs during High Mark 2010. Even that wasn't its first ground attack mission.

 

[alimobin memon]

how do you know JFT is not being used against militants. just bcuz you hav'nt seen any pictures. thats rather quite lame explaination. PAF does not disclose which platform it is using for these ops. even the F-16s use is not officially confirmed by the PAF. its based on speculation of the media and us.

f16 is confirmed and jf17 by the way you haven't read what I said carefully and with focus. Dumb bombs are only proved to be tested in exercises at Very low altitude. there is CM400AKG equipped jf17 pic, C802 equipped jf17 pic and pl5,sd10 pics how come no PGM equipped pics. And HIGH marks only showed dive bombing which is crazy and stupid to do with insurgents who havepecheneg machine guns which can do extensive damage to the low flying jets and jf17 using dumb bombs requires to be flying very low. Let me explain it to you in a better way in WW2 soviets used SMG,SNIPER (Mosin NAgant) and LMG combination of group of comrades to fire at aircrafts coming low to drop dumb bombs and the group successfully had good kill ratio. Even our cobra's are used at altitudes higher than there actual limit which makes the airframe vibrate. Do you know why cobra's fight at high altitude because they are vulnerable to use against TTP's ZPU-1 and Pecheneg machine guns.

Air force would have been using it if and only if WMD 7 is operational and PGM's are used.

One more thing after ordering and inducting weapons they are first passed through phases of clearance for the airforce then they are operationalized. Which I think is that they are passing the phases not yet operational. im talking about WMD 7 and PGM integration