PAKISTAN AIMS TO DEVELOP A LIGHT ARMOURED VEHICLE

[CriticalThought]

unarmoured they will kill them from a distance because a 7.62 round will easily go through the vehicle!

you do know these armoured vehicles are designed for such operations! They have the ability to fight off people who get close. The yanks have spent a decade in them Iraq and afghanistan. how many casualties do they have and how many casualties does Pakistan have?

Dense, urban areas have been the bane of existence for them as well. In the face of IEDs, suicide bombers etc., these vehicles are a false comfort. Where they excel is open, sparsely populated areas where convoys can move fast. In such a situation, bad guys having limited numbers know that getting close means either getting run over, or the convoy stopping and the disembarking soldiers would hold numerical superiority. Even here, IEDs are an ever present threat. Except if you put DU armor, soldiers will be vulnerable.

 

[Path-Finder]

Dense, urban areas have been the bane of existence for them as well. In the face of IEDs, suicide bombers etc., these vehicles are a false comfort. Where they excel is open, sparsely populated areas where convoys can move fast. In such a situation, bad guys having limited numbers know that getting close means either getting run over, or the convoy stopping and the disembarking soldiers would hold numerical superiority. Even here, IEDs are an ever present threat. Except if you put DU armor, soldiers will be vulnerable.

How many casualties do the yanks have in IED capitals Iraq and afghanistan? then compare them with Pakistan and give me the figure.

 

[Mrc]

Why is this project taking so long??

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Remeber watching a video of CNN embedded with IraqiSF they MRAPS and they survived rpg attacks, IEDs, u name it all in urban setting. So ur point does not stand to reason.

Dense, urban areas have been the bane of existence for them as well. In the face of IEDs, suicide bombers etc., these vehicles are a false comfort. Where they excel is open, sparsely populated areas where convoys can move fast. In such a situation, bad guys having limited numbers know that getting close means either getting run over, or the convoy stopping and the disembarking soldiers would hold numerical superiority. Even here, IEDs are an ever present threat. Except if you put DU armor, soldiers will be vulnerable.

 

[cabatli_53]

The current setup is not proper

This brings us back to the problem of not having a Manufacturing base in Pakistan for Auto

All these variations should be donated to charity / and turned into ambulance etc

And proper ground vehicles are needed for Rangers / Military Units

Replaced with proper vehicle

This will work in both the border areas and in inner cities and checkpoints


Ideal for Military Base and Key facilities / Airports Major bases

The technological Advancement and advantage needs to show for Pakistani Troops (Rangers/ Military) against any Terrorist (Rouge/ Sponsored)

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Recommended Trucks in Afghan border
Recommended Truck at all Airport security checkpoints
Recommended Truck for Security of Entry points for Airbases , Military Bases
Recommended Truck for Highway security Special checkpoint
Recommended for Guarding Awacs , P3 Orion and Other assets

Truck for Carrying Rangers
Truck for Carrying Military Personnel in Duty for Patrolling

• All Toyoto Pick up trucks should be Auctioned and sold to Civilian Sector to recover 20% cost of new vehicles

Vehicles that need to be sold

While I appreciate the improvisation and bravery to be guarding in a open ended vehicle

However it is upto the Generals to realize we need a Technological Advantage on the ground
Again just 4-5 Troops in secure Vehicle are in better position then 10 of these Toyotas


Make the foot soldier , more powerful with High quality vehicle


I don't know how many we got these Toyota 5,000 or 20,000 Tucks just sell it to Civilians for transporting vegetables and goods

• The Military Unit has to be in a Armored TOP quality product from Turkey

Reasonable for Police / Rangers

DO IT 1 TIME BUT MAKE IT LAST 40 YEARS




This situation below needs to change

The ground reality has to become Safety and Security oriented , for soldiers / police and you can do more with a Transport vehicle that can carry 8-10 people vs Toyota Truck or bike
All these Troops on bike could have been fitted in 2-3 of these Safe/Secure vehicles to
have a 99.9999% safety ratio

We just need to show Superior power on Ground Level can't be riding on Toyota trucks open ended and Civilian bicycles or Bikes

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

That all sounds good on paper. And all for new trucks and mraps.

But what do we do when the police afsar responsible for maintenance of these vehicles is usurping those funds and may actually sell parts or vehicles themselves to the very evil elements he is supposed to combat???

Thats the bigger problem. We may do all of these initiatives but without addressing grass roots issues that begin in our own homes we will never be a respectable nation.
If our youth slowly keeps going astray religiously, morally etc we will not progress.
We cannot keep living in denial mode.

Recommended Trucks in Afghan border
Recommended Truck at all Airport security checkpoints
Recommended Truck for Security of Entry points for Airbases , Military Bases
Recommended Truck for Highway security Special checkpoint
Recommended for Guarding Awacs , P3 Orion and Other assets

Truck for Carrying Rangers
Truck for Carrying Military Personnel in Duty for Patrolling

• All Toyoto Pick up trucks should be Auctioned and sold to Civilian Sector to recover 20% cost of new vehicles

Vehicles that need to be sold

While I appreciate the improvisation and bravery to be guarding in a open ended vehicle

However it is upto the Generals to realize we need a Technological Advantage on the ground
Again just 4-5 Troops in secure Vehicle are in better position then 10 of these Toyotas


Make the foot soldier , more powerful with High quality vehicle


I don't know how many we got these Toyota 5,000 or 20,000 Tucks just sell it to Civilians for transporting vegetables and goods

• The Military Unit has to be in a Armored TOP quality product from Turkey

Reasonable for Police / Rangers

DO IT 1 TIME BUT MAKE IT LAST 40 YEARS




This situation below needs to change

The ground reality has to become Safety and Security oriented , for soldiers / police and you can do more with a Transport vehicle that can carry 8-10 people vs Toyota Truck or bike
All these Troops on bike could have been fitted in 2-3 of these Safe/Secure vehicles to
have a 99.9999% safety ratio

We just need to show Superior power on Ground Level can't be riding on Toyota trucks open ended and Civilian bicycles or Bikes

 

[Path-Finder]

Recommended Trucks in Afghan border
Recommended Truck at all Airport security checkpoints
Recommended Truck for Security of Entry points for Airbases , Military Bases
Recommended Truck for Highway security Special checkpoint
Recommended for Guarding Awacs , P3 Orion and Other assets

Truck for Carrying Rangers
Truck for Carrying Military Personnel in Duty for Patrolling

• All Toyoto Pick up trucks should be Auctioned and sold to Civilian Sector to recover 20% cost of new vehicles

Vehicles that need to be sold

While I appreciate the improvisation and bravery to be guarding in a open ended vehicle

However it is upto the Generals to realize we need a Technological Advantage on the ground
Again just 4-5 Troops in secure Vehicle are in better position then 10 of these Toyotas


Make the foot soldier , more powerful with High quality vehicle


I don't know how many we got these Toyota 5,000 or 20,000 Tucks just sell it to Civilians for transporting vegetables and goods

• The Military Unit has to be in a Armored TOP quality product from Turkey

Reasonable for Police / Rangers

DO IT 1 TIME BUT MAKE IT LAST 40 YEARS




This situation below needs to change

The ground reality has to become Safety and Security oriented , for soldiers / police and you can do more with a Transport vehicle that can carry 8-10 people vs Toyota Truck or bike
All these Troops on bike could have been fitted in 2-3 of these Safe/Secure vehicles to
have a 99.9999% safety ratio

We just need to show Superior power on Ground Level can't be riding on Toyota trucks open ended and Civilian bicycles or Bikes

Why Turkey? There are many manufacturers to choose from. I stand by my belief that South Africa are best option in MRAP. They invented the damn thing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41431507

Foxhound is facing problems

 

[Signalian]

It will take years to design and a decade to induct fully.

 

[nana41]

We did?

It was tested in Karachi riots .The bullets went through its body.

 

[denel]

Why Turkey? There are many manufacturers to choose from. I stand by my belief that South Africa are best option in MRAP. They invented the damn thing.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41431507

Foxhound is facing problems

That is exactly what I have been saying all along; there are new players and they have nothing much of significance to add. Instead my headspins when I see rubbish vehicles which are decades behind in terms of being able to withstand an IED or mine. Just because it looks pretty does not mean it works.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

It was tested in Karachi riots .The bullets went through its body.

U dont use small arm protection vehicles against HMGs,RPGs n AP rounds..

 

[cabatli_53]

BMC in talks with Pakistan for 16ton VURAN vehicles...

 

[Super Falcon]

Pak army soldiers deserve dedicated 4x4 armoured car rubbish hilax Should be taken out now with no protection

 

[Zarvan]

BMC in talks with Pakistan for 16ton VURAN vehicles...

I hope we get them and in fact get them with TOT