PAK wants to have normal relations with India: Air Chief

[anyrandom]

Agreed. Not only Musharraf, but so many other individuals had become too soft and then there was this "Aman ka Tamasha" stuff.

Peace is highly preferable, but not at such a cost.

Its funny when you guys give example of Mussharaf who was tyrant and a literal backstabber.

1. Who was responsible for Kargil after Vajapyee's bus journey to pakistan?
2. Under whose watch did the 2002 indian parliament attacks happened?
3. Who gave the false promise to dismantle all kashmiri terrorist organizations operating in Pakistan?
4. Musharaff was the Chief Executive of pakistan until 2007 and in 2008 we had the ghastly mumbai attacks. Surely it would have taken years to plan such an operation and it would have happened under Musharaf watch.

So it is India who should be pondering whether it should even try to make peace with a country like Pakistan who has always tried to create 'death through thousand cuts' as Zia famously remarked.

 

[janon]

Its funny when you guys give example of Mussharaf who was tyrant and a literal backstabber.

1. Who was responsible for Kargil after Vajapyee's bus journey to pakistan?
2. Under whose watch did the 2002 indian parliament attacks happened?
3. Who gave the false promise to dismantle all kashmiri terrorist organizations operating in Pakistan?
4. Musharaff was the Chief Executive of pakistan until 2007 and in 2008 we had the ghastly mumbai attacks. Surely it would have taken years to plan such an operation and it would have happened under Musharaf watch.

So it is India who should be pondering whether it should even try to make peace with a country like Pakistan who has always tried to create 'death through thousand cuts' as Zia famously remarked.

Let's give credit where it's due. He did cut off support for some terrorist groups, although it was more due to US pressure than any goodwill towards India or humanity. Some of those groups then tried to assassinate him.

 

[SQ8]

interesting.. contrast this to the statements by the Indian air chief..

 

[Argus Panoptes]

interesting.. contrast this to the statements by the Indian air chief..

What is even more interesting, despite the Indian belligerence and Pakistani cooperation, is the deliberately misleading perception created by the western media of Indian diplomacy and Pakistani terrorism. What is sad is our continued failure to counter this propaganda.

 

[SQ8]

What is even more interesting, despite the Indian belligerence and Pakistani cooperation, is the deliberately misleading perception created by the western media of Indian diplomacy and Pakistani terrorism. What is sad is our continued failure to counter this propaganda.

Perception is all that matters.. Indian leadership has managed to manipulate this image through diplomacy and media ..
resulting in an almost myopic view of Pakistan.. both abroad and at home with the Indian semi-urban/urban class which now is increasingly thickheaded when it comes to its view of Pakistan.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

Perception is all that matters.. Indian leadership has managed to manipulate this image through diplomacy and media ..
resulting in an almost myopic view of Pakistan.. both abroad and at home with the Indian semi-urban/urban class which now is increasingly thickheaded when it comes to its view of Pakistan.

It is high time that we did something to effectively counter-act this wrong perception. Why don't we do that?

 

[SQ8]

It is high time that we did something to effectively counter-act this wrong perception. Why don't we do that?

We cant counter-act perceptions at home.. we cant even keep single perceptions within a community..
so I doubt we can even try internationally.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

We cant counter-act perceptions at home.. we cant even keep single perceptions within a community..
so I doubt we can even try internationally.

Sad and true. It only serves to multiply our troubles.

 

[Rusty]

Give us some good reason why there should be peace? In any case we are not fighting war now, so whats the problem?

are you serious or are you some kind of sociopath?
Peace is good for everyone except sociopaths who enjoy the mayhem and carnage of innocent people suffering.

Before he did the bending over backward thing, he masterminded a farcical attempt to take Kashmir from India, and sent many Pakistanis to their deaths in Kargil, and then disowned them. He precipitated the only war in recent history between the two countries. When he realized that India will defend its lands no matter what sneaky attempts he does, then he started the "bending over" stuff. Which is why he lacks all credibility.

so you have never made a mistake in your life?
Are you some kind of Buddha or something that is perfect?

Facts are that he did start Kargil, he saw that Pakistan could not defeat India in a conventional match so he decided the best course of action was to peruse peace.

Which he did!
The fact that India did not reciprocate proves that India has no desire for peace.

Now let me ask you, what have you ever done to better humanity besides using birth control?

 

[Rusty]

Under Nuclear umbrella + non-state Arabs, Turks and Afghans as the Front cover was the new strategy used by the Islamic republic of Pakistan in the 1000 cuts war. But that also failed due to Operation Parakram.



Musharaff was loading Nukes when the Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan was not aware of it.

A threat to not only regional peace and stability but also anti-humanity act with intention to kill Millions of humans.



Even if Pakistan's military is disbanded, there will be no peace.

If India had decided to make peace when Musharraf had offered it, then you would not be witnessing any cuts.

Pakistani Nukes and delivery systems are not mated, so kindly stop making up your own fantasy.

And this is the reason there will be no Peace in South Asia. Fascist mentality of Indians is the reason non if it's neighbors like it.
The reason Canada or Mexico don't have a problem with USA is because USA is not always threatening war against them or trying to take their land/resources/identities. Indian Fascists can learn from that.

 

[Solomon2]

Air Chief Chief of the Air Staff‚ Air Chief Marshal‚ Tahir Rafique Butt has said that Pakistan wants to have normal relations with India as peace and stability in this region would be in the mutual interest of the two countries.

Z.A. Bhutto said the same thing - just that he wanted to conquer a third of India first. So what share does the current Air Chief Marshal have in mind?

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Please lets focus on aggression I don't like this peace talk all the time

 

[Pashtun Wali]

There is a lot of trust deficit among us. First thing what Pakistan can do to for much better relations is just knock out the camps of hostile elements in PÖK.

Right and what you will do?? keep increasing your consulates in the mountains of Afghanistan, so they can promote terrorism in Pakistan as they are already doing it.Also poking your nose in Balochistan.Give your suggestions to your own government.Or else we will be paying you back with interest.No justice no peace.

 

[Bang Galore]

Right and what you will do?? keep increasing your consulates in the mountains of Afghanistan, so they can promote terrorism in Pakistan as they are already doing it.Also poking your nose in Balochistan.Give your suggestions to your own government.Or else we will be paying you back with interest.No justice no peace.

We don't worry too much about your threats, we have been hearing them all our lives. As for paying back with interest, I suggest you look at whose bank balance can afford how much interest.

 

[KS]

If India had decided to make peace when Musharraf had offered it, then you would not be witnessing any cuts.

True..we would not be suffering the scrapes and you the deep gashes. Probably thats why we decided not to make peace