Pak seeks Muslim representation in UNSC

[Solomon2]

You're forgetting we've been through this before.

And this is the point where you stopped responding.

Would you like me to go provide you citation for occupation of territory in the West Bank (and the Golan Heights), settlements built upon that land. And how that occupation and subsequent settlement building is a violation of Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention?

Are you honest enough to include the criticisms which reduce the Article 49 arguments to dust?

And I could also cite further multiple such UNSC resolutions affirming all of the above opinions regarding Israel's settlements.

Did you forget that under Article 80 of the Charter neither the UNGA nor the UNSC can make such determinations in international law? The purpose of the Mandate was settlement and self-government of the Jews in the territory of Palestine and it's not up to the U.N. to decide to change that explicit purpose.

You're not capable of seeing straight on these matters.

You've been asked for substance and specifics and you respond with more stuff that collapses. I think you're afraid to carry the thinking through to its conclusion. Again. (And given what Pakistan has become, how can I blame you for your fear?)

 

[Jungibaaz]

And this is the point where you stopped responding.

Given the futility of discussions with you, it's not hard to see that pattern repeating itself.

Are you honest enough to include the criticisms which reduce the Article 49 arguments to dust?

The UNSC cites Article 49 and your violation of it despite being a signatory of the Fourth Geneva Convention. If you have a problem with their interpretation, take it up with them and any legal scholars they might employ, spare me the usual speil which I already sensed was coming. Deflections and discreditation of valid opinions.

Did you forget that under Article 80 of the Charter neither the UNGA nor the UNSC can make such determinations in international law? The purpose of the Mandate was settlement and self-government of the Jews in the territory of Palestine and it's not up to the U.N. to decide to change that explicit purpose.

Irrelevant, I know you didn't just turn into a legal scholar just a few moments ago, but probably pulled some pre-prepared bs attempting to discredit UNSC resolutions against Israel, just as predicted.

You realise that what you're arguing here is based on the premise that the West Bank isn't occupied, but a part of Israel. Even the Israeli government doesn't use this legal argument officially. If you want to read a breakdown of this:

https://www.jpost.com/Blogs/juris-e...ments-about-the-Occupation-and-Borders-478433

Section 2 of the article addresses your own desperate and half baked attempt and citation of Article 80.

You've been asked for substance and specifics and you respond with more stuff that collapses.

Nice try, don't deflect and project your own bs onto me. I never asked for specifics from you owing to your complete nonsensical stance on the matter, you did however:

Be specific.

Be specific.

Be specific and I will be specific in my responses.

Funny how you go from saying this, to projecting now.

I think you're afraid to carry the thinking through to its conclusion. Again. (And given what Pakistan has become, how can I blame you for your fear?)

Lmao, the natural conclusion being that you're not capable of seeing any flaws in Israel, obvious as they may be for any neutral who watches our discussions. It's not worth my time to indulge you, you're completely wrong on these matters and you probably know it.

Also, you should know, I take great pleasure and glee at seeing people like you attempt to justify Israel, and seeing Israel slide in international popularity. It's already subject to various unanimous UN resolutions against it, and populations are even less susceptible to the bs Israel peddles.

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

there are above 50 muslim nations some of them way more better your amphibious shithole lanka
they can sure take the seat

yes but not your shithole

 

[Taimoor Khan]

From Sunni Side or Shia side?

Both.

There is nothing such as a Muslim veto or a christian veto or a Jewish veto, because a Muslim is not country.

Nor can veto power be given to any organisation, such as OIC, otherwise SAARC also has a 2 billion population, there should a veto reserved for SAARC or any other organisation, where a bunch of countries come together and form an organisation.

Anyone with know how of geopolitics will know that UN got grouping within based on regional , ethinical and religious lines, with Anglo saxons and Europeans having the strongest bond. On the same lines Islamic block needs to get their act together and push for veto power in security council. And if , by default , the veto yielding state has to be a nuke power, then it's only Pakistan which can carry this responsibility.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Both.

Da, I hope Iran and Saudi join hands.

 

[Verve]

UN promotes democracy yet UN itself is dictatorial ... UN is just a forum to bully and exploit the weak.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Da, I hope Iran and Saudi join hands.

If they dont, they will both suffer regime change, "legally".

 

[Chhatrapati]

If they dont, they will both suffer regime change, "legally".

Ughh! Mighty powerful Pakistan.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Ughh! Mighty powerful Pakistan.

Koi shak??

But as usual, a Bharti couldn't comprehend what was said.

 

[Sliver]

when you say 2 billion muslims needs representation, which muslim will it be? shia? sunni? ahmedi? also, by having a separate soveriegn for muslims you are effectively removing the citizenship of every muslim from all countries which do not allow dual citizenship. this is not well thought out.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Koi shak??

But as usual, a Bharti couldn't comprehend what was said.

Ya yaa. It was too poetic even for Shelly.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Ya yaa. It was too poetic even for Shelly.

Its wasn't poetic really, something called "common sense"!

 

[Chhatrapati]

Its wasn't poetic really, something called "common sense"!

Preach for yourselves. Them waiting for the day, Pak joining UNSC as the leader of muslim world. lel

Please exit the coffee club first.

 

[YeBeWarned]

Brilliant Arguments @Jungibaaz , but seriously you are wasting your time with this guy .

 

[Jungibaaz]

Brilliant Arguments @Jungibaaz , but seriously you are wasting your time with this guy .

Thanks buddy, I'm well aware of that, but still feel the need to reply sometimes. Since I posted this before the 50-odd deaths of protesters in Gaza, I'd say my comments here are perhaps not critical enough of Israel.