Pak-India tensions seen dominating Indian BRICS summit

[Rajeev_Anand]

Pakistan was never discussed and will not be discussed only thing which will come out for discussion will be TERRORISM and their SUPPORTERS.

 

[Grevion]

good. now tell this thing to your Govt.

Instead. You should tell this to China.

 

[salarsikander]

And answer few question

Is it true that the history tells us

Indian faked an encounter in 2004 siachen and We never got to see bin ladens body and America didnt even sanction us

 

[Shot-Caller]

And answer few question

1. How many countries in the world except pakistan denies that there was no Surgical Strike ?
2. Is it true that the history tells us that Pakistan even denied that there is no Osama bin laden in Pakistan, and there are no PA rather mujahideen in Kargil.
3. If only US is in our side, than how many countries in the world except Pakistan condemn the Surgical Strike.
4. Why you want the proof of the surgical strike, when PA knows very well that it has taken, and if no surgical strike is taken then so much Mirchi because we are going to repeat the same process again across the LOC, and keep yourself in the deniel mode.

Remember how long it took your brave forces to kill 2 fighters in pampore you 'sir ji kal strikers' ?

 

[kabooter_maila]

Pak-India tensions seen dominating Indian BRICS summit
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India is set to take its drive to isolate Pakistan and rally the international community against 'cross-border terrorism' to a summit of emerging market powers this weekend, when it hosts BRICS nations in the western state of Goa.

For Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi, the gathering of leaders from Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa offers an opportunity to highlight the threat he sees to Indian security from recent border clashes with Pakistan.

But across the summit table at a resort hotel, Chinese President Xi Jinping is unlikely to have much interest in casting Beijing's alliance with Pakistan into doubt.

The final summit declaration is expected to repeat earlier condemnations of "terrorism in all its forms", say diplomats and analysts, but avoid levelling blame over tensions between the nuclear-armed South Asian rivals.

Such discussions will make security a dominant issue at the eighth annual summit of the group, even as leaders also address core themes such as the global economy, financial cooperation and mutual trade.

"We will be looking at the global economic and political situation, and obviously terrorism is a very important part of that," Amar Sinha, the Indian foreign ministry official responsible for the BRICS file, told a pre-summit briefing.

China not Pakistan's perpetual 'jolly partner'
Where Modi and Xi may see eye to eye, at least privately, is in a shared desire for Islamabad to act against militants who, in Beijing's view, pose a threat to China's plans to build a $51.5 billion trade corridor that runs through Pakistan to the Arabian Sea.

"Contrary to the public messaging in Islamabad, China is not the perpetual jolly partner when it comes to its relations with Pakistan," said Michael Kugelman, a senior program associate at the Wilson Centre in Washington who focuses on South Asia.

"With China's investments and economic assets growing in Pakistan, it's only natural that it would worry. All militants threaten stability and by extension, China's economic interests," he added.

In addition to launching what it described as cross-border "surgical strikes" against suspected militants in Pakistan, in response to a Sept 18 attack on an Indian army base that killed 19 Indian soldiers, New Delhi has mounted a diplomatic offensive to isolate Islamabad.

Pakistan continues to deny any part in the attack on the Uri army base, near the Line of Control that runs through Kashmir. It also denies any "surgical strikes" took place, saying there was only cross-border firing that is relatively common along the frontier.

Islamabad has stated that India has exploited the incident to divert attention from its own security crackdown on protests in India-held Kashmir sparked by the killing of Hizbul Mujahideen

More than 80 civilians have been killed and thousands wounded in India's part of Kashmir, and a widespread curfew has been imposed.

Expressions of Support
After the Uri attack, India quickly won expressions of support from the West and from Russia, whose President Vladimir Putin will also hold a bilateral summit with Modi in Goa.

China, for its part, has shown public restraint.

Zhao Gancheng, director of South Asia studies at the Shanghai Institute for International Studies, said that China and Pakistan were paying close attention to security threats to the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor.

“If Pakistan's security situation does not improve, it will obstruct some of these projects - especially infrastructure ones,” said Zhao. “In this sense, cooperation on counter-terrorism is very close.”

India has already engineered the collapse of a South Asian Regional Cooperation summit to have been hosted by Pakistan, and the Goa gathering will also feature an outreach session to countries from the Bay of Bengal region that could emerge as an alternative focus of regional cooperation.

working groups
BRICS leaders will support plans agreed by their national security advisers to create three working groups to cooperate on cyber security, counter-terrorism and energy security, said Sinha, the Indian foreign ministry official.

But diplomats and analysts say that India's long-held ambition of joining the Nuclear Suppliers Group, a club of nuclear-trading nations, is unlikely to progress at Goa with China yet to soften its blocking stance.

And, despite concerns about militancy within Pakistan, China has rebuffed India's calls for the United Nations to designate Masood Azhar, leader of the Jaish-e-Mohammed that India blamed for the Pathankot attack earlier in 2016, as a terrorist.

China recently extended a so-called "hold" on the designation by a further three months.

That reflects an evolving rivalry between the world's two most populous nations in which, under Modi, India is seeking to close huge economic and military gaps and is shifting away from traditional non-alignment and seeking a closer partnership with the United States.

At the same time, China is expanding its economic and strategic reach into the Indian Ocean region, with Xi visiting Bangladesh on Friday en route to Goa where he is expected to sign loans worth $24 billion.

"Overall, it will be an awkward summit," said Shashank Joshi, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute in London.

He added that, for India, "diplomatic isolation of Pakistan will be the most important objective."


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Let sick-minded Indians try to 'isolate' Pakistan by exploiting the gathering of world leaders who came all the way to India for pondering on important global issues rather than applying any cream on butt-hurt Indians. While these idiots amuse their dignitaries with their non-sense acts and talks (which no one in world gives a damn - rather people enjoy the laughing a$$ Modi), Pakistan will keep striving for higher goals of regional trade, development, highways, integration and prosperity. Pakistan has already been declared having top world rank in infrastructure development. Iran and Saudi Arabia are already tempting and requesting to join the CPEC project. Afghanistan also seems getting out of Indian leash. Afghan ambassador said today in Islamabad "the CPEC was a great project that was equally relevant to Afghanistan like Pakistan, and anything that will be good for Pakistan will be good for the entire region." Pak PM Nawaz Sharif is in Baku these days for cementing trade and defense ties with brotherly country of Azerbaijan.
Let Indians burn in their own deep jealousy for Pakistan. Such nasty idiots as Indians indeed deserve a miserable life - a life that suffers depression and death every moment. We need not attack and kill these animals. To make Indians hurt, desperate, and depressed, we need to keep doing positive work of development, trade, links, integration, and prosperity. The bloody pessimist and deeply sick-minded Indians would resort to terrorism, lies, and jealousy. Let Indians get pushed in oblivion and isolation by striving for regional integration. That's the ultimate punishment that we can inflict on these waste scumbags. As the Afghan ambassador in Islamabad was reported: “I think CPEC is not limited to Pakistan, it is for the entire region particularly Central Asia,” the envoy maintained. But make no mistakes. That integration is among regional countries Pak, Afghan, Iran, China, CARs, and Russia. Let Indians be happy by having SAARC (i.e. BD, Bhutan, Nepal) in their palm. Kalli kutti wassay, katoorian nal hassay (a bitch lives a pathetic lonely life while playing with its own puppies).
http://www.dawn.com/news/1289978/afghanistan-desires-role-in-cpec-says-afghan-envoy

 

[My-Analogous]

India will try to isolate Pakistan at every instance it has a chance. India already has done that by not inviting Pakistan to BRICS summit. As on Pakistan - India tensions dominating BRICS, it is ridiculous. There will be mention of terrorism and Pakistan, but apart from that nothing more. BRICS is a economic summit, and economics will take the front seat.

Already SAARC is in a way disbanded, and BIMSTEC will take its place. This BRICS summit will be all about the rise of BIMSTEC

You know the terminology BRICS stand for? Tell me where P is in it?

 

[kabooter_maila]

You know the terminology BRICS stand for? Tell me where P is in it?

'P' has already had bigger events/gatherings than this. But you can get some consolation from this event. Good for you. After all, you don't get many. Also, it's good these leaders haven't gotten a chance to see the sub-Saharan poverty stricken areas in India. Still I am sure these leaders wouldn't probably come back to see peanut-brained Modi & Monkeys again.

 

[I S I]

Instead. You should tell this to China.

Instead you should just whine as usual.

 

[Valkyrie]

And answer few question

Let me do the honors.

1. How many countries in the world except pakistan denies that there was no Surgical Strike ?

Most of the countries have neither denied nor confirmed Indian claims of Surgical Strikes mainly because the whole idea is too ludicrous to warrant any response let alone an official one. World is well aware of the limitation of Indian military capabilities, Pakistan's capacity to respond, and your history of selling fairy tales as gospel.
The whole story was disingenuously and artfully force-fed to your nation to dampen their hyper-nationalist frenzy (which frankly it succeeded in achieving). Besides, the burden of providing proof lies with the plaintiff, not-vice versa. So you can cry hoarse all you want, but unless credible evidence comes to fore, your claims (read delusional talk) is as good as a pile of trash.

2. Is it true that the history tells us that Pakistan even denied that there is no Osama bin laden in Pakistan, and there are no PA rather mujahideen in Kargil.

Pakistan never denied OBL was in Pakistan. Since the start of WoT right uptill the point when OBL was executed, Pakistan officially maintained that his whereabouts were unknown to state and institutions of Pakistan.
The matter of OBL is too convoluted with multiple narratives, each sounding more convincing then the other. And offcourse, unless your're CIA or ISI topbrass there's no way of knowing for sure the exact details of the whole episode. Was ISI in cohorts with OBL? Was only a fraction of ISI (a rouge group within) collaborating with OBL? Was the operation to kill OBL a joint venture between ISI and CIA to which ISI stepped back from acknowledging?
I've read extensively about this subject but I still am unable decide which story is true. I believe anyone who peddles any perspective without having the substance to incontrovertibly establish it as 'the truth' is either naive or furthering personal agenda.

To sum it up, oversimplification of an event as vague and intelligible as the life and death of OBL, and to use it to place entities involved within inside boxes of culprit/victim or hero/villain reflects a rather cursory understanding of the matter.

3. If only US is in our side, than how many countries in the world except Pakistan condemn the Surgical Strike.

The wording of this statement does an awful job at explaining of your question. Please do elucidate if you don't mind.

4. Why you want the proof of the surgical strike, when PA knows very well that it has taken, and if no surgical strike is taken then so much Mirchi because we are going to repeat the same process again across the LOC, and keep yourself in the deniel mode.

I hope you'll excuse me for not gracing this pedestrian gossip of a question with an answer.

 

[Bravo Lion]

BRICS Aspect Their Own Defies

https://defence.pk/threads/brics-aspect-their-own-defies.456024/

 

[kabooter_maila]

India Is Making A Mistake By Turning BRICS Summit Into A Pakistan Bashing Programme

Much before the BRICS heads of nations meet in Goa today, the western media had already begun writing about its live funeral, if not epitaph. Less than a decade into its existence, this economic grouping of newly industrialised countries--that account for about half of the world population and nearly a quarter of its combined GDP--seems to be losing its relevance other than being a feel-good club.

At its eighth annual meeting in Goa, BRICS is making headlines in India, not for any economic cooperation and growth, but for geopolitics. If the seventh summit at Ufa in Russia last year was about the much celebrated BRICS Bank (New Development Bank) and contingent reserve arrangement, all that we hear about the eight summit in Goa is geopolitics: terrorism, military cooperation with Russia and isolation of Pakistan. And it's India that's mostly talking.

Most of the publicised agenda, both sourced and otherwise in the Indian media, are a far cry from the original purpose and ideals of BRICS, and the decisions of the previous summits. Like in any multilateral meeting, officials concerned will of course go through the motions. However, what makes it to the public forum in Goa is geopolitics, which in simple terms is diplomatic isolation of Pakistan and a roadshow to swagger about our mighty relationship with Russia.

http://www.huffingtonpost.in/2016/1...summit-into-a-pakista/?utm_hp_ref=in-homepage

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

BRICS is dead as SAARC.

Time to create a new world... only two great powers are left. Rus and China. R and C.

the petty indian empire can indulge in delusion of mythical strikes and non-existent global power...

We are moving forward creating a new world of global power architecture centred on first China and then Rus.

Pak is playing its cards right...and is systemtically isolating the fake indian empire in the dust plains of South Asia where China is coming to unleash an era of development and prosperity, liberating it from RSS subogation.

So let these sick minds mourn and cry us a river... We Sino-Pak Friends move forward and take charge of our desinty...

Time to creat new platforms of win-win brotherly cooperation of Civlisational states of Rus, China, Pak, Turkey and Iran with all of Central Asia, ME and Afro-Asian Ocean states as welcome friends to join The Community of Prosperity.

We have not time for wannabez who have zero impact in the Global Power Game..with their double games of betraying us all...thinking they can Contain China or Isolate PAKISTAN.

No more time to waste on Pigeon torturers or fake intellectuals...

Pak brothers, must begin to accept their rightful place in the Asian and Eurasian Power Architecture. You are not and never shall be part of South Asia.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Elhamdulillah!! With a meager 25b bucks in the treasury if Pak can generate such obsessive compulsive disorder, observed in Hitchcock's movies, I feel awestruck at the thought of what's gonna happen 10 years down the road. By that time a significant portion of the global trade will be running in yuan with a major capital for capitals in China...

 

[New World]

Pak brothers, must begin to accept their rightful place in the Asian and Eurasian Power Architecture. You are not and never shall be part of South Asia.

Pakistan is the center of Power architectures whether it is Eurasia, South Asia or Asia as a whole..

 

[BRAVO_]

India should address the main issues because Do they have a secret weapon? An invisible cloak, a force field, a magic pill to turn the Muslims of Kashmir into loyal sons of Bharat? If not, it is time to settle the Kashmir dispute or both India and Pakistan will become extinct some day, a nuclear desert, a warning to what ever humanity survives that South Asian nuclear war. Next month? Next Year? Next decade? It is only a matter of time.