Pak High Commission Staffer held for Espionage

[Dragon4]

Nothing new, it's pretty common. Just dismantle his network and declare him persona non grata. Don't know why stupid media making so much noise.

 

[ManavKalia]

The love the Pakistan people have for the Pakistan army is something that an indian can never understand.

I've seen many Pakistanis criticize and abuse their army.

Media, lawmakers, civil society also.

Lot of people also say that they publicly praise the army cause they are afraid of the army.

What's the reason for that?

I guess you're not in Pakistan, so you can afford to have a romantic view.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I've seen many Pakistanis criticize and abuse their army.

Media, lawmakers, civil society also.

Lot of people also say that they publicly praise the army cause they are afraid of the army.

What's the reason for that?

I guess you're not in Pakistan, so you can afford to have a romantic view.

There will always be those who oppose the army. The love is not absolute. They are free to express their views. I visit Pakistan every year so I know the ground reality. BY & LARGE the Pakistan army is loved by the VAST majority of Pakistanis. They are the ONLY institute in Pakistan who the majority trust.

 

[ManavKalia]

There will always be those who oppose the army. The love is not absolute. They are free to express their views. I visit Pakistan every year so I know the ground reality. BY & LARGE the Pakistan army is loved by the VAST majority of Pakistanis. They are the ONLY institute in Pakistan who the majority trust.

If the majority loved them, then you wouldn't have a civilian government. The majority won't have ended army rule.

 

[Tom M]

Espionage or not, carrying a forged GOI document, Aadhar Card is more than enough reason for expelling him. I'm pretty sure we wouldn't be carrying them without any reason.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If the majority loved them, then you wouldn't have a civilian government. The majority won't have ended army rule.

Windows dressing for international consumption. The REAL power in Pakistan is and ALWAYS will be with the army.

 

[Tom M]

Windows dressing for international consumption. The REAL power in Pakistan is and ALWAYS will be with the army.

Exactly. And I am really amazed by the fact how could Maulana Abul Kalam Azad precisely predict the future of Pakistan back in 1946 before the nation was ever created. Almost all things that he predicted were proved to be correct. Such a great man he was.

 

[ManavKalia]

Windows dressing for international consumption. The REAL power in Pakistan is and ALWAYS will be with the army.

I agree the real power is the army, cause there was army rule for many decades. But power doesn't equate to love of the majority.

 

[abbasniazi]

I have only one statement to make about Modi & Co...
"Kammi qaum ki Kammi Hukumat kay Kameenay hathkanday"...these times are wonderful to learn how kammi a kammi could be...

But u know what...maalik ko patta hota hai kay konsa kammi kis had tak ja sakta hai so we are not surprised by such acts of Modi & Co...

 

[SleepingLion]

Oh yes a new drama, As Pakistan is not giving consular access to Kulbhoshan yadav.

RSS govt. reached a new low, but you can not get access to your monkey with such arm twisting.

How do Pakistanis know that he was innocent? Consular staff routinely engages in espionage and when caught that person is declared persona non grata and ejected from the host nation.

We need access to our Kabootars too!

 

[HAIDER]

I'm afraid it's not applicable, not if under espionage charge and that too with solid proof (if any). You might have to revisit the norms of Geneva convention for diplomatic immunity.

I told you guys...you can t keep him. Under treaty Indian has to release him. Plus, don't think Indian govt fail to prove.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I agree the real power is the army, cause there was army rule for many decades. But power doesn't equate to love of the majority.

In Pakistan's case it does. Take it from someone who's been to Pakistan over 20 times and has stayed there for extended periods of time. Outsiders/foreigners cannot ever know the REAL ground realities.

 

[Super Falcon]

They have int immunity india cannot arrest him

 

[ManavKalia]

In Pakistan's case it does. Take it from someone who's been to Pakistan over 20 times and has stayed there for extended periods of time. Outsiders/foreigners cannot ever know the REAL ground realities.

It actually doesn't. Take it from someone who has more than 200 Pakistani friends, they mostly blame the army for radicalization of their otherwise originally liberal society, and advent of terror. IndoPak comparisons always crop up during conversations. They always say that India is more liberal and less affected by terror today than Pakistan just because of the policies pursued during army rule. You can't appropriate the entire Pakistani population in your own personal opinion about the army. Sure there a lot of people who love Pakistan army and are army fanboys for various reasons. We have similar fanboys in India too. Sure the ratio of fanboys in Pakistan to overall population would be more than their similar counterparts in India. But to say the vast majority of population love the army is quite illogical. Else you would not have had any civil government's at all. Remember army doesn't impose it's rule thru ballot, by winning any mass elections, they do it by force.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It actually doesn't. Take it from someone who has more than 200 Pakistani friends, they mostly blame the army for radicalization of their otherwise originally liberal society, and advent of terror. IndoPak comparisons always crop up during conversations. They always say that India is more liberal and less affected by terror today than Pakistan just because of the policies pursued during army rule. You can't appropriate the entire Pakistani population in your own personal opinion about the army. Sure there a lot of people who love Pakistan army and are army fanboys for various reasons. We have similar fanboys in India too. Sure the ratio of fanboys in Pakistan to overall population would be more than their similar counterparts in India. But to say the vast majority of population love the army is quite illogical. Else you would not have had any civil government's at all. Remember army doesn't impose it's rule thru ballot, by winning any mass elections, they do it by force.

It's not the army's fault for radicalisation. They may have turned a blind eye though. The clergy in Pakistan wields a lot of power. An unbelievable amount. Even at grassroots level.