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Insufficient evidence against alleged Indian spy Kulbhushan Yadav, says Sartaj Aziz

By ECONOMICTIMES.COM | Updated: Dec 07, 2016, 07.19 PM IST


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Again irrelevant posting which has nothing to do with the fact but seems like there is no substance and bring the news which was denied. It was said that Evidence is not provided yet against Kulbushan which was misquoted by the brigade to create a hype but faced embarrassment as well. Check the posts on first page here before posting merely a link without any substance or detail to back up the fake claim.
 
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Insufficient evidence against alleged Indian spy Kulbhushan Yadav, says Sartaj Aziz

By ECONOMICTIMES.COM | Updated: Dec 07, 2016, 07.19 PM IST


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

Again irrelevant posting which has nothing to do with the fact but seems like there is no substance and bring the news which was denied. It was said that Evidence is not provided yet against Kulbushan which was misquoted by the brigade to create a hype but faced embarrassment as well. Check the posts on first page here before posting merely a link without any substance or detail to back up the fake claim.


Dear Eagle,

First,let them "Hand over" the dossier(Didn't Pakistan forget last time to submit it??).Then we'll discuss.But till half a month ago,Aziz himself said "There are insufficient proof".So,we'll check within 23 days,how much "Sufficient Proof" Pakistan accumulated.Or is it just so called "Pattern" that eventually will go to trash can.
 
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Dear Eagle,

First,let them "Hand over" the dossier(Didn't Pakistan forget last time to submit it??).Then we'll discuss.But till half a month ago,Aziz himself said "There are insufficient proof".So,we'll check within 23 days,how much "Sufficient Proof" Pakistan accumulated.Or is it just so called "Pattern" that eventually will go to trash can.

Dear Gr!FF!N,

Pakistan did not forget but details and evidences were not provided by the Agencies to complete it. Sartaj Aziz addressed the Parliament that evidence is not provided which doesn't mean that there is not evidence ( a lot of difference) and even the quoted news was denied by the Official immediately so why not to post the same link in rebuttal as courtesy for readers. Mere posting of links/news article does not prove anything which is already rebutted by the official so there is no need to derail the topic with irrelevant posting to restart it. The evidences are compiled since the day Kulbushan is under arrest but handed over now to the Political Officials for UN presentation. Hope you understand the difference that the same are not catered in 23 days or so but handed over to Sartaj Aziz. The same will go to trashcan or not, is an assumption contrary to the facts in hand which is not the pattern.

The report actually claims that they are going to complain to UN that an alleged Indian submarine was in international waters.

No this is serious. The OP says so not me.

Since Pakistanis are getting all their knowledge of international maritime law from "my daddy steongest", I am beginning to think if they have drawn a dotted red line in Arabian sea as well, a la China in scs?

Well, the world sitting in UN knows how it is going to be proved and where to check the doted border, location of sub-marine, the EEZ boundary and territorial waters that them people are not like experts here at PDF.


Because UNSC has a mechanism for doing so. It is the correct forum. But there is no mechanism in UN for weird badly bound poorly printed dossiers with RAW printed but with the wrong logo.

Do you know how immature you sound? Your diplomats and online trolls seem to share the same intellectual abilities, and the same heady high of Chini support.

It would be better to quote and write the proper name and not to generalize public as what you did in your post. World also sees the proper binding, printed and accurate logo dozier of India so it is a two way road that most of the officials are aware what really happened otherwise I hope that Indian diplomats in UN may adopt the same lines/words what most of you are trying to imply here so we can see how does it impact and the outcome.
 
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Dear Gr!FF!N,

Pakistan did not forget but details and evidences were not provided by the Agencies to complete it. Sartaj Aziz addressed the Parliament that evidence is not provided which doesn't mean that there is not evidence ( a lot of difference) and even the quoted news was denied by the Official immediately so why not to post the same link in rebuttal as courtesy for readers. Mere posting of links/news article does not prove anything which is already rebutted by the official so there is no need to derail the topic with irrelevant posting to restart it. The evidences are compiled since the day Kulbushan is under arrest but handed over now to the Political Officials for UN presentation. Hope you understand the difference that the same are not catered in 23 days or so but handed over to Sartaj Aziz. The same will go to trashcan or not, is an assumption contrary to the facts in hand which is not the pattern.

I'm pretty sure you missed what I was talking about...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rence-in-Balochistan/articleshow/49489193.cms

And we'll sure know of UN's conclusion of so called "Dossier" as last one got dumped by Ban Ki Moon on Kashmir.Pakistan is just trying its luck with new Secy Gen though outcome will be same.
But first,let them submit.
 
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Dear Gr!FF!N,

Pakistan did not forget but details and evidences were not provided by the Agencies to complete it. Sartaj Aziz addressed the Parliament that evidence is not provided which doesn't mean that there is not evidence ( a lot of difference) and even the quoted news was denied by the Official immediately so why not to post the same link in rebuttal as courtesy for readers. Mere posting of links/news article does not prove anything which is already rebutted by the official so there is no need to derail the topic with irrelevant posting to restart it. The evidences are compiled since the day Kulbushan is under arrest but handed over now to the Political Officials for UN presentation. Hope you understand the difference that the same are not catered in 23 days or so but handed over to Sartaj Aziz. The same will go to trashcan or not, is an assumption contrary to the facts in hand which is not the pattern.



Well, the world sitting in UN knows how it is going to be proved and where to check the doted border, location of sub-marine, the EEZ boundary and territorial waters that them people are not like experts here at PDF.




It would be better to quote and write the proper name and not to generalize public as what you did in your post. World also sees the proper binding, printed and accurate logo dozier of India so it is a two way road that most of the officials are aware what really happened otherwise I hope that Indian diplomats in UN may adopt the same lines/words what most of you are trying to imply here so we can see how does it impact and the outcome.

Sorry for being blunt but no respectable country will put logo of another country's agency on their dossier, correct or incorrect. Can you imagine a dossier by the US on ISIS having the ISIS flag on top?

Such visual aid is only used to reach out to a simple minded emotional lot, I.e. for home consumption only. Hence they did not even bother to even check if the logo is correct. This should be embassassing to you, but it is not. That should bother me, but it does not anymore.
 
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I'm pretty sure you missed what I was talking about...

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rence-in-Balochistan/articleshow/49489193.cms

And we'll sure know of UN's conclusion of so called "Dossier" as last one got dumped by Ban Ki Moon on Kashmir.Pakistan is just trying its luck with new Secy Gen though outcome will be same.
But first,let them submit.

I am sure that you know that it wasn't the link in previous post however, you did not make it clear in short but playing riddle game to reply only. Kerry acknowledges the Dozier or not doesn't concern with the case in hand as when it comes to deal with two countries by US, the diplomatic answer is the best resort. Still a 2015 link to prove nothing or do you want me to give you video links of US secretary of State talking something about India against Pakistan, in conference but would be off-topic I think.


Too much assumption way before of happening in UN. Speaking of Kashmir, I am sure again you read that India denied access to Kashmir by UNHRC which is a proof that Pakistan made a point and India rejected UN request (not from 2015 but from August, 2016 that the same source TOI with little buttering but reported the same) proving more of its criminal job in Kashmir though it is not related here so wouldn't go in details.



Sorry for being blunt but no respectable country will put logo of another country's agency on their dossier, correct or incorrect. Can you imagine a dossier by the US on ISIS having the ISIS flag on top?

Such visual aid is only used to reach out to a simple minded emotional lot, I.e. for home consumption only. Hence they did not even bother to even check if the logo is correct. This should be embassassing to you, but it is not. That should bother me, but it does not anymore.

Wish that you could have been more logical that I would have been reading your informative and productive posts for my education alas, I am disappointed. If embarrassment (not what you quoted) is that concerned to India then I am sure there would be a list where even Indian People would have felt unfortunate to have such officials that caused embarrassment to them in front of world. No need to insult any official(s) or the nation in general though you can point out a person if has done anything contrary to your mindset about Pakistan. No need to provoke with such insulting sarcasm that wouldn't end well but name calling for each other so at-least have some courtesy to not to do something like this or don't quote me.
 
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I am sure that you know that it wasn't the link in previous post however, you did not make it clear in short but playing riddle game to reply only. Kerry acknowledges the Dozier or not doesn't concern with the case in hand as when it comes to deal with two countries by US, the diplomatic answer is the best resort. Still a 2015 link to prove nothing or do you want me to give you video links of US secretary of State talking something about India against Pakistan, in conference but would be off-topic I think.


Too much assumption way before of happening in UN. Speaking of Kashmir, I am sure again you read that India denied access to Kashmir by UNHRC which is a proof that Pakistan made a point and India rejected UN request (not from 2015 but from August, 2016 that the same source TOI with little buttering but reported the same) proving more of its criminal job in Kashmir though it is not related here so wouldn't go in details.

You didn't get my cue,thats not my fault.This last link was about the section "Didn't Pakistan forget to submit the dossier last time".It was same topic that Pakistan said they've submitted to USA to expose India's nefarious design in Pakistan(and not an Off topic).But USA flatly refused.Obviously it doesn't prove anything to a Pakistani,but for rest of the world it is shame of highest stature.

Second,UN flatly refused to take part in Kashmir issue.Pakistan may have short memory and might have forget Shimla Accord,but rest of the World,especially UN has the sense about the gravity of the situation.There is reason why UN and US refuses Pakistan every time Pakistan approaches,but of course that drama is for domestic consumption only.

About this one,I'm saying the same thing.Kindly hold your horses before Pakistan submit it and UN speaks someting about that Dossier.Or just like last 2 times,after much fanfare,it might fall flat on your face.
 
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You didn't get my cue,thats not my fault.This last link was about the section "Didn't Pakistan forget to submit the dossier last time".It was same topic that Pakistan said they've submitted to USA to expose India's nefarious design in Pakistan(and not an Off topic).But USA flatly refused.Obviously it doesn't prove anything to a Pakistani,but for rest of the world it is shame of highest stature.

Second,UN flatly refused to take part in Kashmir issue.Pakistan may have short memory and might have forget Shimla Accord,but rest of the World,especially UN has the sense about the gravity of the situation.There is reason why UN and US refuses Pakistan every time Pakistan approaches,but of course that drama is for domestic consumption only.

About this one,I'm saying the same thing.Kindly hold your horses before Pakistan submit it and UN speaks someting about that Dossier.Or just like last 2 times,after much fanfare,it might fall flat on your face.

There is a difference in US & UN (Off-topic indeed as US would be keeping the diplomatic interests first). Also, TOI quoted US flatly refusing but ignored what Sec of State has to say about Indian Involvement in Pakistan on different occasion. Rest about that shame and stature, I don't have any pill to make someone understand but history. The recent happening when NaMO tried to do so in BRICS and got treated, you know on face.

UN did not refuse? you ignored the link, India rejected access of UN in IoK which was made once Pakistan highlighted the Issue or what happened to all claims of India against Pakistan during UN session and other proofs.

Yes, everyone has to hold their respective horses until UN speaks something about that but wait, India does not accept UN as such credible. Well, Indian posters are in hurry to prove something way before submission and session of UN by calling it for the trashcan etc thing.
 
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