Brahm0s
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Gr8 news. Am desperate to see how pak-fa looks like. December whole world will know it. i hope video or atleast pics will be shown of pak-fa taking off in sky by december.
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Gr8 news. Am desperate to see how pak-fa looks like. December whole world will know it. i hope video or atleast pics will be shown of pak-fa taking off in sky by december.
i too would very much like to see a vid or pics of the prototype when it flys
Russia probably won't be able to honor their word that a prototype will fly before 2010, so don't keep your hopes up. But I do believe they made substantial progress. They might leak a few photos to keep Bharat's appetite salivating and to keep the Gorskov deal alive.
do you have any idea about the pakfa program just mere make up stories isnt it,
3 prototypes are ready in irkuts siberia plant with ground testing beeing done the plan was to showcase it in maks 2009 in august but the ground testing is to take further time ,
designs have been locked sukhoi dosent want to release the pictures they can release the design pictures right now but the plan is to keep it away from the public eye because sukhoi is going ahed with the su-35 bm they want to win the brazil tender and not reveal pakfa till su-35bm final trials are over
meanwhile sukhoi have offered to project internal weapons bay on its flanker mki block 2 they want to cash in on other projects before they release pakfa, also designs are finalized for the naval version of pakfa
so please make some research before you make stupid comments
Russia probably won't be able to honor their word that a prototype will fly before 2010, so don't keep your hopes up. But I do believe they made substantial progress. They might leak a few photos to keep Bharat's appetite salivating and to keep the Gorskov deal alive.
You just supported what I just said. Did I say the PAK-FA wasn't beyond design stages? NO. Did I say ground tests might not be ready by year end? YES. Doesn't Moscow play these "games" with India? YES.
Now where was my mistake?Take it easy, these political games are played all the time in the big leagues. Lots of broken promises, freezing of payments, delays, etc. I've been part of the "Industry" and see this all the time.
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Friend lets presume pak-fa would get ready by 2020 (for your happiness). What does that mean? J-XX would get ready before? Or by 2030??? even jet fighter JSF F-35 wont be ready by 2015 or so. Do you think china would produce J-XX before indo-russia? So friend you should pray PAK-FA gets ready fast. That would benefit your china (if russia agree to help china) lol.
Friend lets presume pak-fa would get ready by 2020 (for your happiness). What does that mean? J-XX would get ready before? Or by 2030??? even jet fighter JSF F-35 wont be ready by 2015 or so. Do you think china would produce J-XX before indo-russia? So friend you should pray PAK-FA gets ready fast. That would benefit your china (if russia agree to help china) lol.
Mosow, can you provide more infos, or reliable news of the MKI block 2 upgrades and of course more infos about Pak FA capabilities?meanwhile sukhoi have offered to project internal weapons bay on its flanker mki block 2 they want to cash in on other projects before they release pakfa, also designs are finalized for the naval version of pakfa
so please make some research before you make stupid comments
May I disagree here!Does it really matter who makes it faster? We are not at war here. And even if there is a war in Asia by 2020, (which I doubt) none of these fighters are going to make any difference as there are going to be too few of them available to make any difference.
May I disagree here!
Even these fighters won't be fully invisble for latest radars, they will enter enemy airspace without much problems and can take out fighters, or ground targets like no actual fighter could do. There were simulations of F22 against numbers of actual US fighters and specially in BVR combats it will have an edge, even in small numbers next gen fighters will make a difference!
That's exactly what I meant, even such a small number can make a real difference!Going on the premise that we get to see the first FGFA in 2017, I dont see us holding more than at best one squadron of the aircraft by 2020. In all probability, it will be more likely 10-15 aircraft. China is expected to perform along similar lines. Now I really dont see such a small handfull of fighters making a big dent. More likely, these frightfully expensive aircraft will be kept away from the war zone to avoid the possibility of losing some at the hands of pilots with limited exposure to the machines. All this is mere conjecture really. You may be entirely right in your appreciation.
During Exercise Northern Edge 2006 in Alaska in early June, the F-22 proved its mettle against as many as 40 "enemy aircraft" during simulated battles. The Raptor achieved a 108-to-zero kill ratio at that exercise. But the capabilities of the F-22 go beyond what it can do. It is also able to help other aircraft do better.
"When you are outnumbered on the battlefield -- the F-22 helps the F-18 and the F-15s increase their performance," General Lewis said. "It gives them more situational awareness, and allows them to get their expenditures because you can't kill all these airplanes with just the weapons aboard the F-22. It takes the F-15's and F-18's weapons. It was very successful, (in its) ability to get everybody to integrate."
dont know any any of the dates for the aircraft but...about the russian help.
why wouldn't russia help if needed? please explain to me this